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Any faster guys here with 4h in the bag?


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Thinking about giving a 4h a go to help get my approaches onto greens in the 200-210 yard range a little more height and spin, plus some more forgiveness on the bad hits.

Driver around 110 or so and I'm in modus 120 shafts, so I'm probably looking for something around 100g. Right now I'm thinking tensei pro white 100x or tz5, possibly straight in (soft stepped). Ideally stiffer tipped softer mid set ups.

What set ups have you gone with and what has or hasn't worked, and why?

 

 

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titleist 913 21* 82 gram blueboard has been the most consistent club in my bag for close to 7 years, by consistent it never left the bag. perfect for that 200 yard range.

i didn't want to change it out but i got a 816 head and just put it right into the same shaft about 1 month ago.

its not as nice as the 913 looking but it performs the same, i just miss the 913 but after all those years it needed to be retired.

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107-9 mph driver .. 92 mph with 7i

see sig .. 4h and 5h... and testing a crossover as a 6 iron

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Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x 

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Same situation for me Ziggy. My last driver session on Trackman was a 108.8 average. I went with a TZ5 95HB M4 tipped 2.25 and plays @ 39.5" in a Exotics CBX 22*. I tried the M5 but couldn't get the height I was after. This is the first time in over a decade I've used a different hybrid shaft than an old Fuji Speeder 904HB.

 

 

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21-22 degree hybrid isnt crazy with the right shaft no matter swing speed. I have a 20 degree hybrid I launch pretty low with a 95g D+.

Could easily use a 22 degree if I wanted with no problems

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This is my main thought.... In the deeper rough my home courseets grow out in summer, shorter par 5 or long par 4 from the rough become a nightmare of I need to pull 4i,even at my speeds. I feel like a hybrid can help me out of nasty lies better. @nitram did you try the m5 flex but tipped less? I use m4 flex in my driver actually as m5 just wasnt giving me great results. I wonder though in a heavier head like a 4h if I could get away with m5 flex but maybe play it straight in.

 

 

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I think the 818 H1 I have is technically a 4H. I have it lofted down to 20 degrees and have it in a 3H length shaft. Fits in nicely between my 3wood and 4 iron.

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I was fitted into a 22 degree sim max hybrid at the kingdom with a Fuji pro 2.0 8X shaft. Similar to you im around 110 swing speed with the driver and was consistent with the 4 hybrid around the 205-210 mark.

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I tried the M5 with no tipping. It still felt smooth and it definitely took the left side out of the equation. I just couldn't hit it higher than 65 ft off the ground and was needing to be more 85-95-ish. After talking to 2 different Accra certified fitters I initially went with 2.00" tipping for evaluation and ended up the extra .25 in the end with the M4.

 

 

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I still play my 910 3h and 4h off and on. The 3h has a 90 gram whiteboard and the 4h has a 96 gram pro force V2. My SS is 117-120.

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The day my G25 4 hybrid breaks is the day I mourn the loss of a dear friend.

Perfect swings might be rewarded with more accuracy from an iron, but it’s nearly impossible to hit a bad shot with the G25, and I can hit every shot with it.

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Driver: PXG 0811X Gen 4 7.5 HZRDUS Smoke iM10 Green 60 TX 45.9" D3

Driver 2: Taylormade Burner Mini 11.5 HZRDUS Smoke Green 70 X D5

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I am a fairly high launch guy and have been considering the same with similar swing speed. However, last time out I was faced with a 120 punch under and around a large tree and the 4-iron low punch gave me a shot at birdie so I’m hesitating.

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I'm ~108 w/ driver...not sure if that qualifies me as a faster guy or not...

I broke the shaft in my 4i hitting a punch from under a pine tree last season and didn't bother getting it fixed. I never hit a 4i especially well and really only used it once every 3 or 4 rounds.

Long story short, the shaft (xp 115) is discontinued, so I picked up a used 816 H1 4h that I'm going to give for a whirl this coming season. My irons are long in the tooth for a WRXer (850 Forged), so if it doesn't work out, I'll probably just replace my 4 - PW, haha.

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I'm at 110 with driver and this is my 4h...so far so good. Nice high flight with a slight fade.

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7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
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I'm 105-108mph. I typically play a 4H or DI depending on course. I definitely prefer a 4i or 23˚ DI off the tee, especially for a par 3. Anywhere past the tee a hybrid is much more useful. They can be a great tool around the green, too.

 

If I do drop the 4h for an iron, I will usually drop the 5w for a 3h.

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I’m 110-115 with driver.

My 4H goes 215 on a smooth swing with a high, dead straight flight. My 3H goes around 230 but is more penetrating of course.

I dropped the 4i several years ago after getting a 4H as an experiment during sloppy winter golf and then falling in love with it. My 3H and 4H are exact clones as I built them both.

 

ZA

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One of the easiest rounds of golf I had was when I had 19* 23* and 27* hybrids in the bag, and my irons started at the 6-iron. I am a longer hitter, around 98-99mph with a 7-iron. Long irons are more one dimensional and never go as high as easily as I would like. High lofted hybrids are as easy as hitting wedges IMO.

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I’d highly recommend trying a 4H before buying. I went in to the store last week with all intents on buying a 4H to replace my 4 iron. Walked out with a U510 4 iron instead. So much more consistent for me and I couldn’t stand seeing that much loft on a hybrid. Definitely try before you buy!

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Wedges: Scratch wedge 53 degree, Cleveland RTX Zip Core 58 KBS 610 S+ 
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