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have you folks been listening to the marketing from Vokey on these sm8?! Who knew that the sm7 was so bad, according to vokey... So, we needed higher cg before, therefore we had the weight pad raised on the higher lofted wedges. now, they tell us that causes issues with hitting high right shots. YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT BEFORE WITH ALL YOUR FANCY EQUIPMENT?! Now, we we are told that we need more weight in the hosel and farther forward. This is against what we've been told before as well.

I don't know.... I think marketing is really stretching on these.

 

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No different than taylormade.

low rearward cog...no no..low forward, wait now back to low rear again.

mwt, act, fct, atv, removable faceplates, speed fins, speed bumps, speed slots, speed bridges, 1 weight, no..no 2 weights, 1 track, no ...no 2 tracks.

you can’t be be mad at the marketing, you not only have to re-invent the wheel every year but sell improvements to it.

 

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I also have very high doubts the CG is “in front” of the face much at all. It would take a significant amount of weight in extreme places (I know they did hosel and toe) to move it anywhere meaningful, and I imagine this would throw off swing weight if they did.

Driver: Titleist Tsi2 - GD AD-IZ 6x

3 wood: Taylormade SIM Max 15 - GD AD-VR 7x

hybrid: Ping G425 19 - GD AD-DI Hy 95x

irons (4-pw): Ping iBlade - Project X rifle 6.5 +1"

wedges (50,55,60): Vokey Sm9 - Project X rifle 6.5 +1"

Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 36"

Ball: Titleist ProV1

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Sold my sm5 and sm6 and plenty of Cleveland and Callaway wedges with out moi hi cg back cg etc.Its a Low Point in their history too me when this rubbish comes out...

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I guess another take on it is 99.9% of the clubs I've ever used work fine if I put a good swing them and like shit if I put a poor swing on them regardless of the marketing hype. (The other 0.1% was clubs with an aftermarket shaft a hacker like me simply couldn't launch).

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17° Callaway X Hot 4 wood
20.5°& 23° Cleveland DST Launcher hybrids
Srixon ZX5 5 - PW Modus 105 Regular 

Cleveland CBX Zipcore 48°/9° & 52°/11°, RTX 3 58°/9°
Ping Anser Sigma 2 putter

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They all offer the latest and greatest at each release. As for what most of you guys have offered, I’d agree that many people who spend time on WRX do understand that much of the marketing is just that...marketing. So we don’t buy based on the marketing but do buy based on what works.

 

I say that say...I am not offended by the marketing. And I am replacing my wedges this year because it is time. And it likely will be SM8s because I like Vokeys because they work for me.

 

This isn’t a counterpoint... it is just my opinion.

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Step right up for the the new line of SM8 wedges from Vokey...

 

...for the players who want a boring, traditional look and feel and need new wedges or want to spend some money and figure wedges are probably a solid investment and who already know they like Vokeys and for those who wish to try Vokeys for the first time because they're a reputable brand that seems popular.

 

Oh, and it says here something about the CG or whatever but who cares...it's the brand-new, same-thing-as-always Vokey S-M-whatever!!!

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This whole A.I. thing - isn't that the same tech that has brought spellcheck? Thus the name Mavrik

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... I just can't decide whether to wear a tin foil hat or stay under a force field when reading/watching anything from golf OEMs. I wish just one year every single OEM would introduce all their new clubs with zero marketing. Nothing, nada about any club they introduce. It would not take long for forum members to go insane with ignorant comments. He!! a third of forum members get upset over a name!?! It's really pretty simple. New Vokey SM8 has a different CG and improved performance? Sounds good to me but I will have to demo one side by side with my SM7 to see how it performs and feels. More often than not I stick with what I have. Marketing gets my attention but it is up to me to decide if it is relative to my game. But if you buy a club based on Marketing without due diligence, you will get exactly what you deserve.

 

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Fairway:    Cobra Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
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Personally I am not offended by their marketing at all the employees have to eat and feed their families. To go further I am brand agnostic like you said I play what I know works for me and could care less about that company's marketing , product cycles or if Joe Pro plays it on tour or not. And I will also state what works for me may not work for you or anyone else

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7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

9W--- TM V Steel Stock V Steel R flex shaft

Irons 5 thru PW TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R F

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LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

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OK folks so where do the Japanese forged Models fit in to the mix? I am honestly curious as I like a forged wedge and they do look nice but is there any actual difference in performance? I could just stick with my Miura tours but always looking for more of anything.

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Titleist TSR 2 16.5 GD AD UB 7s

Titleist TSR 2 21 GD AD DI 8x

Callaway APEX Pro / CB  4-11 PX IO 5.5 

Callaway full toe 54* PX IO  6.5

Callaway full toe 58* PX IO 6.5

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It was not just the SM7s that raised the COG. That is a big point when you look at the whole Mizuno MP20 line, and every high toe wedge.

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Thats fine by me - happy for Titleist to tell the general public how poor the previous generation of wedges were.

Got 3 new SM7 vokeys with my PX Shafts for about $90 each.

Hell I might even start telling people myself how revolutionary SM8s are and i might pick up another set of SM7s for $60 this time next year.

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I’ve lived in Japan a couple of times for nearly five years total. The number of sightings on an actual golf course of the following is zero: Miura, Royal Collection, Epon, Yuryuri, Legacy Black, Vokey Forged.

 

If you want to use what the people that actually live in the Japanese Domestic Market use, get some off the rack Mizunos or standard cast Vokey. Haven’t been back since the Cleveland/Srixon marriage. Perhaps RTX is getting some love now...

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Will be trying them out sometime in the upcoming season. If they perform as well or better than my SM6s I'll be getting some!

SM7 thing did seem awkward the first time I listened to one of their vids but didn't bother me much - I thought they were crap, too (okay their Tour players and most others didn't see it that way) that's why I gave them to my daughter's boyfriend.

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