Anyone compare the stock smoke green that comes in the sim to the ventus black?
wondering if it is worth my time and money to switch.
Previous shaft was Smoke Green TX and now Ventus Black X. Ventus allowed more consistent contact to find the fairway, where Smoke Green more of a long drive option.
I was looking at it more from both being classified as low/low shafts which are what I have had the best success with in the driver, but hitting the Blue was pretty eye-opening as the ball just seemed to jump off the club. I will say the Kiyoshi doesn't feel as stable as I would like at times so I may need to find somewhere to try the Ventus Black.
I love my Ventus 6s but hit my buddies Smoke Green 6.5 the other day. Its the stock one from the Sim. I was really surprised at how good it felt. Granted it was only one ball and a different head but I did hit it past my Ventus. The main thing that surprised me was how easy the Green in a 6.5 flex was to load. Not a problem at all for me and again I play and was fit for the 6s in the Ventus Black. The Ventus isn't going anywhere but the Smoke Green is definitely a different shaft so be careful. If it fits you, the Ventus may not work for you.
I have the same concern. I’ve always assumed that trimming the tip of a shaft is what will make it play stiffer than the flex, if you trim the butt it has no impact. Is that definitely the case? I want to try playing a shorter driver this year but not at the risk of having the shaft play more stiff
Just played my first round with the Cobra SZ with the Ventus Black 6S. All I can say is that was only my 3rd round of golf since October/November, and it was one of the straightest driving exhibitions I have ever put on. My playing partners were very impressed, and said that I shouldn’t even look at another driver for quite awhile. It is hard to base anything on one round of golf, but my confidence on the tee went up throughout the round, and that is important in and of itself.
Round 2 at Pebble Beach tomorrow. Stay tuned...
Here are my Ventus Black thoughts after a couple rounds. Been meaning to type this up and just now getting a chance.
Put my 6x in an M3 440 head as I’m not quite yet ready to pull my SIM head out of the plastic. 440 has been in the bag for most of last year with a Tensei Pro Blue 60TX playing about 44.5-44.75. Ventus Black was ordered at stock length to give room for either tip/butt trimming as needed so SW is a bit high at around D6, so I’m just choking down a good inch or so.
I typically get along well with whiteboard-esque profiles with heavier/stiffer tip sections. I had previously tried an Atmos Black and Blue over the last couple years. Hated the Blue and the Black was tipped too much for me so it was very accurate but a lot of work to launch/spin properly. No experience with Ventus Blue.
Enter Ventus Black - right away feel is very stable and linear as Fujikura has detailed. However, I had no issues launching it plenty high for the window I like to see. Honestly launched higher than I expected with a pretty stock swing but I was also easily able to flight it down a little as needed. Likes to go relatively straight but will typically fall a little more left than right for me at the moment, but I’m chalking that up to a winter swing. As I mentioned, only 2 rounds and both were in sub 50 degree temps with a soggy course. I’m not sure if it’s an improvement in overall launch conditions, some favorable wind gusts, or something else but I’ve hit some tee balls to places I’ve only seen in summer conditions. For the profile I am again surprised by how easy it launches but with seemingly very low spin - just gets up in the air and keeps carrying. With the conditions I mentioned, nearly every tee shot hits and stops or bounces a yard or two at best so this has been all carry. No numbers but I will try to get my Mevo out on the course sometime soon. The stability really frees me up to take a full aggressive swings, something that usually takes me a number of rounds/months to develop that familiarity and trust. Some of that is definitely the 440 head as it just sets up great to my eye and gives me a lot of confidence. The last thing I’ll mention is the consistency in finding the center of the club face - I think Fujikura and some other folks have mentioned this as well as a result of the Velocore tech, but it really does somehow seem to promote high-quality strikes consistently. Flight, spin, and distance have all been very consistent as well because of that.
Sorry for the wall of text, but great experience so far and excited to see how it continues to fare as summer rolls around. Always been a Mitsubishi guy and Ventus Black ticks a lot of those same boxes. Not sure if there’s anything ground-breaking here, but definitely a great combination of materials and tech to create some excellent feel for this type of profile, and it seems to be working really well for me.
Thats really good to hear! I have that exact same combo showing up Monday! I will play Pebble Beach too ... on my Skytrak haha
Well, we can see who plays it better tomorrow.
Went out yesterday with my youngest son to help him with his game as he’s trying out for the schools golf team. Haven’t played much lately as work has been crazy and my sons had playoffs with basketball. The weather was warm (72) with just a 5-7mph breeze. First time in a while the courses were rolling as I’ve been playing when mud balls were on every shot. Have to say the more and more I play with the Black, the more and more I love this shaft. Have no issues getting this in the air and as someone else said I was surprised at the launch when I first played with the Black. However when it lands is when the I get the biggest surprise as I’m getting a nice role out. Hit a few that went 275 carry and then rolled out to 300. Hits not in the center still went out there 275 total distance and that’s all I can ask for. Great ball flight and only when I make a horrible swing (getting stuck) or when my back acts up and I try and muscle through and have the out to in path is when it goes off line. Otherwise it’s a nice gentle draw or straight. The Blues are firmly in the bag in the 3 and 5 woods. If you have a good AOA, don’t be afraid of the Black as I’ve read some are afraid it won’t get up in the air. Also I don’t feel like I’m struggling with the shaft as it doesn’t put any extra pressure on my back. The Pro Orange was the shaft that I felt I had trouble with.
for what’s it worth, I’m 50, cancer survivor and have had multiple back, intestine and kidney surgeries and my SS is now around 108-111 when I try and step on it. 5’11 and 170-175 pounds (depending if my wife doesn’t catch me snacking, lol). I stretch before every round and use the MISIG to stretch before playing. It has helped me a ton with shoulder rotation and just being more flexible in my lower back. The Ventus Black feels smooth (at least to me) and I can swing easy or step on it without any issues. Some shafts in the past felt different, depending if I tried to swing normal vs going after one.
Hope this can help answer some questions or concerns about the Ventus is anyone has doubts.
hit em straight.
Been playing the Ventus black 6s in my epic flash SZ for a month now and loving it.
Are people liking it in 3w as well or more of the blue?
I have been able to get more work in with my G410 9* LST Ventus Black 7X and G410 14.5* LST Ventus Black 8X. Getting the exact ball flight and numbers I’m looking for. Finding Center more often (also playing 44.25 and 42.25 helps) and the consistency has been amazing. Hitting a nice power fade with driver that runs out nicely and just pumping the 3 wood. Been a nice surprise, as the launch is a bit higher than the Hzrdus Black I had in it before and the feel is much better, but spin numbers have remained similar. Overall extremely happy with both setups right now and still considering Bagging the G410 5 wood instead of my hybrid so I can put a Ventus black 10X in it 😂
My kind of guy! Shafts can never be too heavy or too stiff. Would love to get ahold of a 9X or 10X for a fairway shaft.
Driver - G410 LST 9* Ventus Black 7X (tipped 1”)
Fairway - Under Construction
Driving Iron - Cobra KING Forged TEC 3 PX Catalyst 80X
Irons - Cobra 19 King Forged MB 4-GW KBS $-Taper 130X
Sand Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 56.10 Versatile KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
Lob Wedge - Cobra MIM Black 60.04 Widelow KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125
Putter - Tour Issue Odyssey Protype PT12
had a nice beautiful 52* day in Chicago yesterday. Lucky enough to play 18 and it was the first time with Ventus Black on course. I've had about 7 range sessions now and what I see from the monitors was almost identical to seeing on course.
Its by far the most stable shaft ive played any does not feel like a board. You can really feel how little of deflection there is on the face when you make contact on poor strikes. Heel/toe shots fly much straighter with very minimal curve compared to anything ive seen. I typically have a slight draw but yesterday I saw a much straighter shape. My miss is leaving the face open leading to a push fade. Still did that yesterday but instead of fading farther right it stayed straight on the line where I missed
I mentioned a few pages back its not the farthest shaft/combo ive played but dispersion has tightened up. After 18 I ate lunch and relaxed a little before going to the range since it was so nice out. There is a Top Tracer monitor at my course so I can get a general idea of speed and distance. With Ventus my max ball speed was 164 and avg 162. Then the first swing with my LA Golf ozik black tie the first ball speed was 166, avg 164. Launch/spin being considered the Ventus is maybe 7-10 yards shorter but the strikes are much more consistent. Accuracy with Ventus blows ozik black tie away and the past 2 years its been my favorite shaft
Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 8* ..Ventus Black 60x
Cobra Speedzone Big Tour 3w 13.5* ..Ventus Black 70x
Cobra Speedzone 5w 18* ..Ventus Blue 80x
Cobra Forged Tec 4 - P ..KBS C-Taper Lite 115x black
Cobra MIM 50,56,60 ..KBS C-Taper Lite 115x black
SWAG Savage Tour Proto
I've got Ventus Black 6X in my driver and 7X in 3wood. It was a no brainer. These things are awesome.
Was curious if you did any tipping in the driver or 3wood? I have a 6x black in the driver untipped but going to move to the 7x and was going to get either a black or blue for the 3wood but wasn’t sure if there were any tipping recommendations for 3woods.
So I just got back from a great golf trip. We played 3 days in a row, on 3 different courses. I was pretty worried that I wouldn't be able to assess this shaft since I've only played a couple of rounds over the past 4 months due to winter in Indy. There is no question that the dispersion was tighter for me with this new set up. I think the shaft is mainly responsible, but I can't say for sure since it is a different head (Cobra SZ with the Ventus Black 6s at 44.5 inches). Well struck balls are no different than my F9 with Tensei Pro Orange, but my misses were alittle closer to the fairway. Obviously a bad swing still results in a bad result, but slight mishits off the toe or heel side of the face were punished less. There also seemed to be less side spin, as my bad swings were more of a push or a pull, rather than a hook or a slice. More testing still needed, but promising start.
Bought a Ventus Black 6x with a TS3 8.5 from a Spanish guy playing on the Spansh tour, at ebay. It plays 45.25". The shaft was tipped 0.5 " . My ss is about 107-109. My friend bought a Ventus Black 6x as well, also playing a TS3 8.5 . His shaft was not tipped, so we swapped. My tipped shaft felt a lot stiffer and spin went up 200 RPMs and ballspeed went down to 105???
My friend has ss around 120 so he is much faster than me, but I am glad that he liked my tipped shaft better. He played Pro Orang 70 tx before, and he thinks that shaft is more stout, compared to Ventus Black 6x, spin is about the same for him (around 2000 RPM = 300 meters). I have tried his Pro Orange 70TX and it was to stout for me, but I got some fine numbers. I really like my Wentus Black 6x and my spin is now 2000-2600 depending on the strike. My former driver was a Rouge SZ 9.0 set at 8.0 with a Hzrdus Yellow 76 gram 6.5 tipped 1.5" and that shaft is not as stable as the Ventus Black 6x. I have always used x-shafts because my swing is aggressive. Ventus Black 6x got my spin down 300-400, so I am really satisfied. Just testing inside with Trackman, because it is wintertime here in the northern part of Sweden. So tip the shaft gently...
Also in Chicago, and also hitting the Ventus Black in an 8* SIM. Here's an update to the last page, where I was all over the place.
Once I straightened my swing out things got a lot better. I'm at around 115-117mph, so this combo is really getting the ball out there. Hard to put numbers on it at a range with dirty golf balls and no monitor, but when it works it really works.
It's absolutely possible to put a 40 yard slice on the ball with this shaft/club combination, but I'm sure you all knew that. However, when you square the face and put a good swing on it, the dispersion is really tight. I was able to keep track of where I was striking on the club face due to the aforementioned dirt on the range balls, and anything remotely close to the center ended up right where I wanted. Outliers were probably dirt (my towel was worthless after cleaning a couple dozen balls.) This was a big improvement over the other shaft I tried in the SIM, where off center strikes were really punished. Less twist, more solid, super accurate- all true in my experience. Great setup.
Tested Ventus Black against current shaft, Smoke Green TX and Raijin Black, RIP-X, Rogue White TX. Early testing had Smoke Green TX the best against Black, X and Rogue on initial test with Mavrik SZ. Ventus Black added 5-6 MPH ball speed over earlier test results in the past week. Dispersion was better with Ventus Black over Smoke Green as well. Consistency of strike location with Ventus Black is hard to beat!
Rocking the black in my @TaylorMadeGolf SIM Driver:
I'm doin' it! Just BST'ed a SIM Max 10.5* with Ventus Black 7x sight unseen to replace my current TM M4 9.5* with Synergy Black 70TX. I've always been in the low/low profile, having had a Tensei Pro White 70TX, PX HZRDUS Black 6.5, and Motore Speeder 7.2 TS before that. In my current driver, I've noticed that I'm launching it a little lower than I'd like, so I'm lofting up and sticking with the low/low shaft. Based on the discussion, it seems the Ventus launches ever so slightly higher than the lowest of the low/low shafts. This should help increase launch a little while controlling spin. I'm excited!
i got fitted into the ventus black 6x this weekend. I sort of new this is where I was going as I played the blue 6x all last year, loved it just spun too much and have always been a Fuji guy. Really like the maverick head over the epic flash. Sound feel weight all fit into what I am looking for. The only other shaft I thought of going with is the new Motore F1, was shocked how good that felt to me as I was not expecting it. On average it just spun a couple hundred rpm’s more so I stayed with the ventus.
Was curious anyone buy a x and go down to s or vice versa? Ordered a 7x but thinking should've went 7s tipped or 6x. Not here yet(thanks ups) but was just thinking about how stiff that 7x will be. Ss ranges 104-115 because I suck lol. Miss is always left and have a super fast/harsh transition.
Playing this weekend?
You should be fine. It’s not overly stiff just stable if that makes sense.
Heard this thing is back ordered into May from Tm
You'll be fine with 7x, worst case scenario your miss is better but you lose some speed.
I want to! Have zero woods right now lol, ups lost my ventus 7x so no driver and sim 5w is supposed to be here by Friday. Kind of depends on that
Yes 100% stable is what I was going for
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