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What’s Replacing Your Ping G400 Max for 2020?


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For those unhappy with the sound/feel, hotmelt spread across the face totally transforms the Max. It actually has a very pleasing sound when hotmelted

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[b]WITB[/b]:
Ping G410 LST 9 degree - Tour AD IZ 6x
Ping G410 LST - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Kasco K2K 33 - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
Taylormade HiToe 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
Taylormade HiToe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
Palmer AP30R putter (circa 1960s)
Taylormade TP5X Ball

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I've gone to a SIM Max for now, and have been extremely impressed. I knew I was giving up some distance with the Max, but after moving to the SIM for two rounds, my normal golf buddy has started questioning his driving saying "dude - I don't know what's wrong with me - I typically hit it past you but you've been consistently outdriving me recently." Gotta admit - that felt pretty good.

I'd add that I've hit some of my longest drives ever with the SIM (Ventus Blue) - and drove my first ever Par 4 green.

That said, I hit the Mav SZ and it may actually be better ...

OG Stealth Graphite Design Ventus TR 60X

Ping 425 Max Hotmelted Tensei Orange 1k

Epon AF 302, TI X100

Epic 3w/5w/4h - Tour AD-DI

Wedgeworks SM8 55D / 60T

Scotty Cameron T22 FB

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Has anyone ever considered that a shorter driver is by nature more accurate? I never had until now. Maybe I was giving the G400 Max too much credit?

Callaway Mavrik 9* w/ Aldila ROGUE White 130 M.S.I. 60
Callaway Mavrik 3 wood w/ Aldila ROGUE White 130 M.S.I. 70
Callaway Mavrik 3 hybrid w/ Project X Catalyst 75
PXG Gen 1 0311X 4 iron w/ Mitsubishi MMT 80
PXG Gen 5 0311 XP 5-7 w/ Mitsubishi MMT 80

PXG Gen 5 0311 XP 8-GW w/ Mitsubishi MMT 80

PXG Gen 2 0311 Forged 54 w/ Mitsubishi MMT 80

PXG Gen 2 0311 Forged 60 w/ Mitsubishi MMT 80

Titleist Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport 2 

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G410 MAX maybe? Otherwise, nothing!

The Navy Vessel IV Pro bag:

Ping G425 Max Driver @ 12.0º Alta CB Slate Sr

Ping G425 Max 5w / 7w @ 21.5º Alta CB Slate R

Ping G425 4h @ 23.0º / 5h @ 27.0º Alta CB Slate R

Ping G425 6-UW Alta CB Slate R

Ping Glide 3.0 54° WS / 58° Eye2 Z-115

Seemore PCB 33"

 

Back-up Hoofer bag: Ping Eye2+ 3-SW Graphite

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The question for me is what is going to replace my Ping G LST?, I have the G400 LST head and have played many rounds with it, while sound and feel are different, I continue to go back to the G due to better results...I play 44.25" shaft in my driver (I have 3 shafts that I put in play depending on the course), that said, there are many great drivers out there, I suggest test the ones that "first" catches you eye, if I like the looks of a driver, I tend to play it better, then of course, go to performs best for you, at that point looks really don't make a difference, good luck.

DRIVER: Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5*, Ventus TR Blue 6TX at 45"
3 WOOD: Callaway Paradym HL 16.5*, Diamana Flower Band White, D+ 82X Flex, tipped 1" at 42"
7 WOOD: Callaway Paradym 21*, Tensei AV white 75g S Flex, tipped 1" at 41"

IRONS: Callaway Apex MB 7-10, CB 4-6 -- DG TI S400

WEDGES: Callaway JAWS Raw 50, 54, 58 -- DG TI S400
PUTTER: SC Phantom 5, Stability Shaft, 33.25", Garsen Quad Tour grip (Toulon Chicago as back up)
BALL: Callaway CT X (current gamer), Srixon Diamond, -ProV1X and ProV1

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The issue I have with G400 Max is the sound. It's not the best and I all try new clubs and when they come out. with that said I hit the SIM MAX and was really getting some good numbers.

I'm going to a driver fitting in two weeks and that is one I want to try and the M5 as well. Hit the M5 some and really liked the feel.

I'll be open to anything even if it's sticking with the G400 max if the numbers are there.

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Feed about 10" of yarn into the head through the weight port screw hole. Mutes the sound considerably. Could stuff even more if you wanted an even more muted, duller sound. I have done this to both 400 Max heads I've had. When I sold the first head, I pulled the yarn out with a rigged up paper clip, so no issue there.

G430 Max 9* - Hzrdus Blue PVD 
Stealth 15* - Tour AD-IZ 

U505 2i - Hzrdus Black rdx

T200u 4i - Tour AD
Fly Z + 5-P - PX LZ

SM10 - 50, 55, 60

Versa 7
 

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If PING could make their drivers sound and feel like TaylorMade’s carbon fiber drivers, it would be a perfect club that could never be topped.

Former professional golfer. Current amateur human being.

Driver: PXG 0811X Gen 4 7.5 HZRDUS Smoke iM10 Green 60 TX 45.9" D3

Driver 2: Taylormade Burner Mini 11.5 HZRDUS Smoke Green 70 X D5

Fairway: PXG 0311XF Gen 5 4 Wood; Smoke iM10 Green 70 TX D6

Irons: PXG 0317X; PXG 0311T Gen 5; 5-GW DG 105 X D7

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM9 56 S Grind;  Cleveland RTX Full Face 64 DG 120 X E0

Putter: PXG Battle Ready Raptor 38” Wristlock Grip

 

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Not sure what the big deal is with the sound of the G400 Max. It sounds fine to me. However, I do note the F9 feels better even though I can't explain it. Regardless, the only thing I care about is hitting the ball and watching it land in the fairway with a boring trajectory. The G400 Max deliveries that time and time again, more than any other driver I've hit.

Ping 410 LST *9 (+1), HZRDUS Smoke Black 60R

Ping G *14.5 (+1), Aldila Rogue Black 95 MSI 70S

Callaway Apex Hybrid '16 *20, Matrix Red Tie HQ3 S

Callaway Apex Hybrid '16 *23, Matrix Red Tie HQ3 S

Adams XTD Forged 5-GW, Recoil 780 es F4

Vokey SM7 *56.14 F, UST Recoil 110 F4 #8

Vokey SM7 *60.12 D, UST Recoil 110 F4 #8

Ping Anser 2 Karsten TR, KBS CT Tour Black PVD

   

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Love my G400 Max with the PING Tour 65 shaft, but for more yards I'm going to the ST200 which is going from a 45.25" to a 45.00" club. Just trying to decide on a shaft. Kuro Kage Silver Tini, Diamana Blue S+ and Tensei CK Blue are all candidates. I will test one more time to choose. I might wait for outdoor testing (weather) to really see trajectory and dispersion, which could happen in a week.

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I am not willing to go backwards in forgiveness to chase a few yards. With that said, there are a ton of good drivers out there and I have shown the ability to make impulse buys, sooooo I will not be testing any of them.

 

Rogue ST Max 9 Degree Tensei AV White 65x
G400 3 Wood Tour75x

Sub70 699U 2 Hzrdus Smoke 6.5
G400 3 Hybrid Tour85x
PXG 0211DC 5-GW Tour Elevate x
PXG 0311 52 & 58 Tour Elevate x
Taylormade Spider X

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Picked up a G400 Max a few months ago after playing a G400 SFT the last 2 years. Only 2 rounds in so far, but loving it!

In the bag, at the moment:
Callaway Paradym 💎 💎 💎 S TC 10.5* Autoflex SF505X

Callaway Mavrik SZ TC 17* Aldila Rogue White 70S

Callaway Apex UW 21* Project X Hrzdus Smoke Black 70S

Callaway Apex 19 4H 23* Project X Catalyst 70S

Callaway Apex TCB 5 - AW Project X 5.5 shafts
Callaway Jaws Raw 56* bent to 55* & 60* Project X 5.5 shafts

Odyssey White Hot Versa Three T Slant / Mizuno M Craft V Blue Ion

Titleist Pro V1x

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I really like the fade bias settings of the G410+. Distance wise they're about the same. The dispersion is better for me with the G410 so bye bye MAX.

Ping G400 MAX 9 Kuro Kage Tini 60x

Titleist TSI2 18 Tensei White Stiff

Titleist 818 21 KBS PROTO Stiff
Ping G710 4-PW

Ping S159 50 54 58

Ping Senita 38 Putter

 

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I realised my G400 Max was too low lofted for me and while planning to just replace the 9 with the 10.5 head I noticed that the Cally Rogue was selling for half the price of what i could get for my MAX. As I had previously played Callaway drivers, I have a number of shafts with optifit adapters so decided to pull the trigger and have all Callaway woods in my bag once again. Knowing me, I'll probably use the difference to buy a couple of extra used shafts (got my eye on a Tensei orange as we speak).

I have found that with adjustable drivers, some tweaking of the settings can make a big difference in terms of forgiveness and have always found the Callaway adjustments easy to dial in, but bigger still, is finding the right shaft, and as i like to play my drivers between 44-44.5, its just easier for me to set up with the shafts I already have at that length and the spare Callaway weights i have in a drawer.

I had considered getting a Fusion off of the number of recommendations on this forum but for £30 more I felt the forgiveness of the Rogue would be similar and the look and sound would be a little more pleasing to me.

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Mizuno st200, just as forgiving and much longer.

Mizuno ST-Max 10.5 Smoke RDX 50 5.5, AI Smoke 10.5 with HZRDOUS RDX RED 50 5.5

Mizuno ST-MaX 5 stock Kail'l R

Mizuno ST-Max 7 stock Kail'l R

AI Smoke HL 7-AW Nippon Neo 85

AI Smoke 7/8 Hybrid HZRDOUS Siver 65 Gen 4 5.5

Cleveland Full Face 52

Cleveland Full Face 56

Odyssey Jailbird 380

Titelist prov1x/Callaway Chrome Soft

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I'm not playing the game correcty...I was play the Epic Flash and I'm now playing the G410 plus...accuracy is so nice with this driver...I feel comfortable with club and I love the dispersion . Its a great choice that I made.

Driver - Callaway Rogue ST Max, 10.5 deg,  UST Helium 5F3, Regula

5-Wood - Cobra LTDx Max,  16.5 deg, UST Helium 5F3, Regular

Hybrid - Callaway Apex 21 - 3 Hybrid, Recoil Dart 75gm, Regular

Hybrid - Callaway Apex 21 - 4 Hybrid, Recoil Dart 75gm, Regular

Hybrid - Callaway Apex 21 - 5 Hybrid, Recoil Dart 75gm, Regular

Irons - PXG 0311 XP Gen 3 - 5 thru PW, AW, Mistubishi MMT 70, Regular

Wedges - PXG 0311 Forged, 54* and 58*

Putter - Scotty Cameron Flowback 5.5 putter, 34* shaft

Balls - Callaway Chrome Soft X balls

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My Ping G400 is staying in the bag!! The only thing that would change this is...someone stole my driver. ?

  • Driver - Ping G400 10.5 Graphite Design VR 5 R1
  • Wood - Taylormade Sim TI 5 wood 19* (17.5) Diamana 65R
  • Wood - Callaway Epic Speed 7 wood 21* HZRDUS 60-5.5
  • Hybrid - Ping G430 22* R 
  • Hybrid - Ping G425 26* @ 25* R
  • Irons - New Level 902 PD 6-PW & AW Elevate MPH 95 R 
  • Wedge - Ping Glide 2.0 50* AWT 
  • Wedge - Callaway  MD3 Milled 56/10 TT Elevate MPH 95 R
  • Putter - Odyssey White Hot OG #7 Bird 34” 
  • Ball - Maxfli Tour 
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