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The 3 wood is just something not to be messed with once you find the right one. It is the most personal club in the bag along with the putter. For me I discovered it last year. Previously the best fairway for me was an old Tour Edge Exotics CB1 with a Diamana Blueboard 73. I played that club for a long time. It developed cracks in the brazing. I sent it back to TEE and they sent me a new one but it was never the same. I've been through many since. I still have an RBZ Stage 2 that is good but not as good as my old TEE. Then I tried the Ping G410 LST. It will not leave the bag until it breaks. I never got along with Ping Fairways but this one does everything. Off the tee, off the ground, cuts, draws, you name it. It just works. I would say it is the closest thing for my game as the TEE. Better in some areas but I still have a soft spot for that old club. Maybe nostalgia but I am at the place with the Ping I don't search anymore.

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This^^^^^^^. I also added the 5 Epic SZ and it is awesome, though I did change shafts and put the Aldila Rouge shaft in both, because I didn't care much for the Smoke shafts. Of course this may have been due to the fact that I hadn't played much before I got the clubs.

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Ping G400 LST 10°, Rogue Silver 110 70 S
Ping G430 MAX 15° Rogue White 130 80 S
Ping G425 MAX 17.5° Rogue White 130 80 S
Ping G425 22° Tensei CK Pro Orange 80 S
Ping i210 5-W Recoil Dart 105 S +½" SStep x1
Ping Glide 4.0 50, 54, 58

2022 Scotty Cameron X5 35"
TM TP5X

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I’m leaning toward G410s.

3 wood and delofted 7 wood. I don’t know if the 5 wood would be to close in distance to the 3 wood.

Would do hotmelt at low face of 7 wood to reduce spin.

Speeder 757 EVO VI in 3 wood and 757 EVO IV in delofted 7 wood. The EVO IV is a few grams heavier and slightly lower launching than the VI. The VI is supposed to be a slightly tweaked version of the IV that’s slightly lighter and higher launching.

The 661 EVO IV in my driver is just so good at helping me find the middle of the club face that I want to stay in the family.

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Ping G410 LST 10.5 Speeder 661 Evolution IV X
Cobra Big Tour 13.5 3 wood Ventus Blue 7 X
Cobra Speedzone 18.5 5 wood @ 17.5 Ventus Blue 8 X
Titleist TS3 21 degree hybrid @ 20 Atmos TS Blue HB 8 X
Ping i210 5-9 Power Spec Steelfiber i110 S hardstepped
Ping Glide 2 Stealth SS 45, 50, 55, 60 KBS 610 Wedge 120 S
Ping Sigma G Ketch B

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I recently bought a Callaway FT-i Squareway 3W based on nothing other than Freddie still having one in the bag. USPS is completely dysfunctional in Michigan these days however. Two, three and four week delays are the norm. 3 weeks and still waiting.

Ping G410 Plus Driver, TaylorMade Aeroburner 3W, Cobra F6 Baffler 
Callaway 2015 XR 4, 5 hybrids

Titleist 2021 T300 6-P, 48W, 53W irons

Ping Zing Lob wedge
Axis1 Rose putter

 

Alternate set: Srixon ZX4 MKII irons

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Personal bias here, but if you like flat lie angle and want a 4/5 wood as an all rounder, it's pretty damn hard to beat the Epic Flash Sub Zero. It's really easy to hit off the deck and the 5w is easily turned down to 17 degrees, which is traditional 4w loft. I think mine plays about 42".

Mine is neither high nor low spin, it's really well balanced. I replaced the light sole weight with a heavier one to balance it out and it's one of my favorite clubs.

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TSR2 8*, Ventus TR Red 7x

TSi2 15*, Diamana BF 80TX

TSR2 18°, Atmos TS Blue HB 8x 
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21°, Recoil 110

MP-20 MMC  5-P, DG X100
SM8 50F, 54S, 58M (X7 "spinners")
Odyssey Eleven S
Tour BX

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I put a 3 wood shaft in my 7 wood, turning it into a Frankenwood. The G410's can be custom ordered with a longer stock shaft at no extra charge. I'd consider adding an inch, or 1/2" at a minimum. With the ability to set the clubhead to a flatter lie, the added length shouldn't be an issue.

 

Ping G425 Max Driver 12 (0 Flat) - Aldila Ascent Red 50 Stiff (46")
TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver 16 - Matrix Speed RUL-Z 60 Stiff
Ping G410 7wd 20.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (43")
Ping G410 9wd 23.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (42.5")
Ping G425 6h 30 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 70 Stiff
PXG 0311P Gen3 6-P (2 Deg Weak, 1 Deg Flat) - True Temper Elevate 95 S /

Ping i200 6-P Orange Dot (2 Deg Weak, 2 Deg Flat) - True Temper XP 95 S
Ping Glide 4.0 52-12 S, 56-10 Eye2, and 60-10 S Orange Dot (2 Deg Flat) - Ping Z-Z115 Wedge
PXG Blackjack 36" - SuperStroker Flatso 2.0

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I am liking my m1 HL turned down to 15 degrees. Smaller head, sits square to open when dialed down. When I am swinging well it is great

 

mostly a tee club for me

Callaway triple Diamond paradym 9*- hulk 60tx 

Callaway paradym triple diamond - hulk 70tx 

Titleist TSi3 20* hybrid Matrix Black Tie 90x 
Srixon zx7mkii 456 / ZForgedii 789P- MMT 125tx 
Cleveland RTX6 50/54/ S400 TI Onyx 
Vokey Wedgeworks 60* V-grind 
Tri-hot double wide 
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G410 5 or 7 wood with enenflow black shaft. If you like it the5 or 7 you might be tempted to try the 3 wood if you can stand the narrower face.

G400Max 10.5 Driver Red Velocore 6S
G410 5 Wood Tensei Orange stiff
Ping G410 Hybrid 22* & 26* Evenflo Black 6.0 stiff

Ping G Gap-6 iron Steelfiber i95 R.flex

Ping Anser 52* Steelfiber i95 R.flex
Cleveland CBX 56* Steelfiber i95 R fles
Callaway X Tour 59.5* Steelfiber i95 R.flex
Scotty Newport 2,  prov1x, Motocaddy M1

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I'm a big believer in consistency over distance at this point. 4 or 5 wood is the way to go for most people. Most people who "can't find a good 3w" seem to really like a 4w.

For shorter hitters it helps them get the ball in the air and sometimes actually carries further than a 3 wood. For longer guys it creates a more usable club. Longer guys typically hit a 3w 280-300 and they'll never be that far out on a par 5 and it's rarely a layup yardage you'll get on the tee.

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I haven’t had great experiences with a G410 LST. Had it for a few weeks when it first came out and admittedly had the wrong shaft in it (Evenflow Black 85 6.5). It was too heavy, stiff, and lifeless. It sat shut at standard loft, so I had to lower it a degree to sit square. Then I could never get any real launch or distance out of it.

I briefly had a Mavrik sub zero 16.5 that I couldn’t hit at all. It sat incredibly flat and I must have had the wrong shaft because it had no pop and I could not get it up above 90 feet even off a tee.

 

I have been demoing the TS2 and TS3 the past 2 days. Had a chance to hit them on my home launch monitor and on course and outdoors. My club let me borrow the TS2 16.5 and the TS3 15. I had a HZRDOUS smoke 70 6.0 and an Evenflow White 75 6.5 to try in each.

Neither shaft was a great fit for me, but I had better success with the Evenflow white I think because it was a half inch shorter.

The TS2 16.5 hit total moon balls for me even at 15.75. I’m talking almost 4,000 spin. Off a low tee, I was getting shots apexing at almost 150 feet and dropping from the sky like a wedge. Ball speed was upper 140s off the ground and low 150s off a tee. My mat absolutely kills club head speed if you make even the slightest touch of the mat at the ball.

The TS3 did better for me in both ball speed and control due to lower spin. I tried many different settings and the best was 14.25 with standard lie angle. Ball speed was 150 off the mat and 155 off the tee. Spin in the low 3,000s. The head looks really curved and I had some issues aiming it with all the glossy black. Off the ground, I could get it apexing about 80 feet and about 110 feet off a tee.

My miss with a fairway wood seems to be heavy, so I worry about the sharp leading edge on the G410s.

I think I’m leaning toward SIM 15 and 19 now.

 

Ping G410 LST 10.5 Speeder 661 Evolution IV X
Cobra Big Tour 13.5 3 wood Ventus Blue 7 X
Cobra Speedzone 18.5 5 wood @ 17.5 Ventus Blue 8 X
Titleist TS3 21 degree hybrid @ 20 Atmos TS Blue HB 8 X
Ping i210 5-9 Power Spec Steelfiber i110 S hardstepped
Ping Glide 2 Stealth SS 45, 50, 55, 60 KBS 610 Wedge 120 S
Ping Sigma G Ketch B

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Im kinda in the same boat you are. I currently game a 915f and love it, but it loves to go left on me. The m1 and m3 seem to be the most anti left but they come in at 140-150ccs which is a bit small for my taste. So Ive narrowed it down to the epic flash SZ at 169cc. And the ts3 at 176. Dont know if i can commit to that ugly green tho ?

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I’m only looking at 2019 and 2020 models that Will Peoples carries. I have some merchandise credit to spend there.

Ping G410 LST 10.5 Speeder 661 Evolution IV X
Cobra Big Tour 13.5 3 wood Ventus Blue 7 X
Cobra Speedzone 18.5 5 wood @ 17.5 Ventus Blue 8 X
Titleist TS3 21 degree hybrid @ 20 Atmos TS Blue HB 8 X
Ping i210 5-9 Power Spec Steelfiber i110 S hardstepped
Ping Glide 2 Stealth SS 45, 50, 55, 60 KBS 610 Wedge 120 S
Ping Sigma G Ketch B

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As seen by the diversity of answers, the head is close to irrelevant as long as the lie angle is close to correct. The 410’s are flatter and adjustable, so they’re justifiably popular.

The correct shaft, as it’s far easier to get wrong. When you’re ripping away on the LM and hitting off a mat, you’re putting on a driver swing that isn’t realistic off the grass in many cases.

Driver - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 5S

FW - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 6S

Hybrid - SIM2 MAX / Ventus Blue 7S

Irons - ZX5 / C-Taper Lite S

Wedges - SM9 50/08 56/10 60/04

Putter - Odyssey Ai-One Milled #7 T

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I had a chance to demo a 19 degree TS2 hybrid turned to 18 degrees and the numbers were very good, making me think a 17 degree TS2 hybrid will work great for me. I was almost at the gap I’m looking for to my 21 degree. There was some extra spin and height, making me think the 17 degree would be perfect especially with the extra half inch of length.

 

So I’m now just looking for a 3 wood for mostly tee and still leaning toward the SIM. I won’t be able to demo it though.

Ping G410 LST 10.5 Speeder 661 Evolution IV X
Cobra Big Tour 13.5 3 wood Ventus Blue 7 X
Cobra Speedzone 18.5 5 wood @ 17.5 Ventus Blue 8 X
Titleist TS3 21 degree hybrid @ 20 Atmos TS Blue HB 8 X
Ping i210 5-9 Power Spec Steelfiber i110 S hardstepped
Ping Glide 2 Stealth SS 45, 50, 55, 60 KBS 610 Wedge 120 S
Ping Sigma G Ketch B

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This month? Epic Flash

Driver: Callaway Paradym 9 set to 10 Draw

3W Callaway  Epic Flash

5w Callaway Epic Flash
Hybrids: 4-5 Epic Flash    
               6-7 Big Bertha 

               7 Ping G430 played as an 8 

Irons: PXG Gen4 XP 9-GW

Wedges: PXG 0311 52 56 degree Forged

Putter: Odyssey Rossie Pro 2.0 

 

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Alright, I have it narrowed between SIM and Cobra Big Tour. Pros and cons?

Ping G410 LST 10.5 Speeder 661 Evolution IV X
Cobra Big Tour 13.5 3 wood Ventus Blue 7 X
Cobra Speedzone 18.5 5 wood @ 17.5 Ventus Blue 8 X
Titleist TS3 21 degree hybrid @ 20 Atmos TS Blue HB 8 X
Ping i210 5-9 Power Spec Steelfiber i110 S hardstepped
Ping Glide 2 Stealth SS 45, 50, 55, 60 KBS 610 Wedge 120 S
Ping Sigma G Ketch B

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