Can't seem to find a PGA Pro who can fix this in my swing.... HELP

[tthomasgolfer605]

When you want to change things without having to do useless drills or without thinking about your hips let know.

[WhatWouldPhilDo]

Well actually I asked opinions from multiple people because the average joe “pga pro” never once addressed my issues at the top. I asked the pro I was working with and all he said was slow your swing to snail speed. Meanwhile, I want every pro swing as fast as they do and they don’t do it. Clearly something was wrong with my swing if they can swing twice my speed and still not have those issues.

[WhatWouldPhilDo]

Also, if 4 guys with credentials and track record can all agree with the issues, it makes it a hell of a lot easier to buy into the process. Having doubt about what you are working on when you are struggling is not a good place to be for making changes to your swing.

[TheDeanAbides]

I'll be interested to see how you get on with this. Keep us posted on the mental and emotional aspect of feeling uncomfortable and hitting it like crap because that's where the learning happens.

[BTP]

I'm going to chime in because you do what I do which is over extend in the spine, over rotate if you will, because you have the flexibility. I still battle doing this and unfortunately if you continue to swing this way, you'll battle back problems. What has worked for me is setting my right foot neutral and/or even slight toe-in so that I feel some muscle/range of motion restriction in the backswing -- otherwise I don't feel like anything is restricting or stopping the backswing. This has made some difference, maybe 5-10 degrees less in the backswing.

Look into some good golf functional core strengthening exercises in the meantime with emphasis on avoiding over rotation in your lumbar spine.

[tthomasgolfer605]

Did any of them address that you need to feel like your transition starts sooner? Every athletic move has a transition starting as soon as you take it back. If it's throwing a ball. Hitting a tennis ball. Hitting a baseball. Just trying to put your arms in a position won't work. If you think of it from an athletic point of view you won't overswing or the weight won't get outside your right foot.

[tthomasgolfer605]

To get to the top correctly like the first pic, feel like your transition starts from the second pic.

[WhatWouldPhilDo]

Interesting thought. I will give it a try tomorrow. Haven’t thought of it that way.

[WhatWouldPhilDo]

Update. I have been trying to get my hips to have more depth in my swing. I have been doing that but I am shanking a lot of balls. The club still gets under plane to start and then loops. I have one drill with feet together to keep better balance. You’ll see two other fulls swing (DL I, DL Driver, FO Driver). Then I have one other drill I have been doing where I take the takeaway, stop at the top, and swing. My club path seem to be extremely loopy. I don’t understand what I need to do to get that correct.

FO Driver

https://youtu.be/gtKzepNsx5EDL Driver

https://youtu.be/shxwNpQWeKoFeet Together

https://youtu.be/mdN5vw8Cv1k3 Piece Swing

https://youtu.be/bLF_R6zG8W0DL Wedge

thoughts?

[Nard_S]

I'm seeing shoulder plane going flat on driver. If you hold plane, it gets a lot harder to do 'cross the line' over swing even if you do pull club too inside on take away, which seems to be the case here too.

[glk]

You are over rotating the left arm - your takeaway is okay but then once you get to shaft parallel you rotate that left arm and get that elbow pointing toward the target line - elbow needs to stay pointing down to ground - rotating that arm gets the shaft going back flat, and behind you, you end up swing around your body. stop rotating the arm and stand the shaft up. Takeaway is fine it's after p2 that the issues start - roll the arm, then continue arm swing with right arm folding too much, going across the line, etc.

good point to stop but . . .

to here is all extra arm motion

See it lots on here - folks get the shaft going horizontal too much, get the lead arm to much across the chest, and then overswing to "get the club to the top" Transition then doesn't stand a chance to synch things up.

Something like a smart ball or range bucket between the arms would go a long way toward shortening and synching the swing (and help you keep the club more in front of you). Hips is not the focus - you need to improve how your arms working beyond the takeaway - too around you versus up. Have to feel like you are standing the shaft up.

[WhatWouldPhilDo]

Thanks, GLK! So the feeling would be to take the club vertical and stopping at arm parallel? Any videos on this?

[glk]

 

[chipa]

@glk Imo opinion looking at your right leg and the slow lower body start of the downswing you have let almost all of the good tension go in the right leg, which will not only rob you of easy distance but make other things happen with the arm swing that shouldn't.
Try tilting your shoulders a little at address and use your lower body loading as a sign the backswing is finished instead of cranking your shoulders so much. I used to swing like you btw, it's hard on the back.

[chigolfer1]

Another random guy chiming in, why not?? lol.

To get the feeling of club vertical, why don't you try the Dan C. drill where you put an alignment sick on the right side of your hip extending up from the end of the club.