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2020 Big Bad Low Spin Shaft Test


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Thanks for the feedback and that makes sense. I just got done playing and hit a lot of fairways with the RIPX. It's one of the lowest spin shafts I've hit in a long time, heck some shots even dropped out of the sky in the last 1/3rd of the flight which is surprising as I rarely am too low in spin. Overall i'm going to stick with it for a minute and if i keep hitting fairways I can't change.

Titleist TSR3 8* / Fuji Ventus Black TR 6X               

Titleist TSR2+ / Fuji Ventus Black TR 7X               

Callaway UW / Fuji Ventu Black 8X

Edel SMS iron 4-5 / DG TI X100 /////  SMS PRO irons 6-PW / DG TI X100

Edel SMS 50V, 54T, 60T / DG TI S400/ BGT ZNE 130

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This is the SINGLE BEST thread on here period. I have been hoping that TOLL would do this again. This is just awesome thank you.. Ventus is it tipped? I have the blue untipped and tipped 1", I am thinking this shaft is very tip senstitive? I have blue 7s tipped 1 1/2" and need to really hammer it to keep the block away. I am thinking 1/2 to 3/4" tipping is what I should have done for me. 112ss... I am playing the blue as well...

PING G430 Max 8 degree (digitally lofted) TR Blue 6X tipped .5". 44.5" D4 

G430 17 HY DI HY 85 X

TSR2 21 HY DI HY 85 X

4 THRU PW King Tour KBS $ Taper 120

VOKEY 48 "F" KBS $ Taper 120

VOKEY 54 "F" S400

VOKEY 60 "V" S400

SCOTTY CAMERON T11 BGT POLAR SHAFT SAND BLASTED TO MATCH HEAD... FLATSO 1.0

HOOFER LITE BLACK CAMO 

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Thank you, I appreciate that. Yes all shafts in this test are tipped. We do test everything untipped, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1 inch etc....up to 1.5 inches. This test is one of those, but I can't reveal that info as we use it for fitting customers. I will say on a ventus black at 112, the generic recommendation without knowing your swing or load factors would be 1/2 inch.

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Opps, i meant to say Synergy Black TX 130MSI, not Rogue.

TaylorMade Qi10 LS 9° w/ PX HZRDUS Gen4 Black 75 6.0

TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5° w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5

TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19° w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5

TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22° w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5

Srixon ZU85 5 26° w/ PX RDX Smoke 100 6.5

Srixon ZX7 6-PW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 X

Cleveland 588 RTX 52° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Srixon WG-706 56° w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S
Scotty Cameron SSS Circle T Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter

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Are you saying you cannot see the attached data screens? Please let me know if you can't see it at all. There are currently 4 posted and I will continue to post one per day for a total of 10. Then after that I will post the analysis of the products, most likely all in the same day, or maybe over 2-3 days. Just keep checking back daily for more and more info

 

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Excited about this thread!

currently gaming an old aldila silver... If my secret evil plan goes... according to plan... I’ll be a customer next year.

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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This is exactly where I am at. I love the Rogue White in my driver, but I'm thinking I like the feeling of a more stout fairway shaft. The Tour Blue feels loose to me even with the 95TX...

TM SIM 9* Ventus Black 6TX 
TM SIM Ti 19* Ventus Black 9TX 
TM P790 3 DG X100 

TM P7MC 4, 2014 MB 5-PW DG X7
TM MG 52, 56, Hi-Toe 60 DG S400
TM Spider Tour Black

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The results won't be much different for 110mph guy vs 117mph guy. Keep in mind for each swing speed they are using each shaft but tipped appropriately. If something changes it would be more to do with the swing and load the player puts on the shaft. The results posted give you a pretty good idea of what the shafts do. Now if your talking a 95mph swing speed then things could change.

Titleist TSR3 8* / Fuji Ventus Black TR 6X               

Titleist TSR2+ / Fuji Ventus Black TR 7X               

Callaway UW / Fuji Ventu Black 8X

Edel SMS iron 4-5 / DG TI X100 /////  SMS PRO irons 6-PW / DG TI X100

Edel SMS 50V, 54T, 60T / DG TI S400/ BGT ZNE 130

Edel PROTO




 

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The Secret Prototype is looking juicy!

JT, is the AV Raw 2.0 firmly in the bag or is the secret prototype a contender once the cat is out of the bag? When do you plan to start selling them?

Titleist TSR3 8* - AD XC 6x
Titleist TSR3 13.5 (14.25*)- AD XC 7x
Apex UW 19* - Ventus Blue 7x tipped 1.5"
Srixon Zx5/7 combo set 4-PW - KBS $-Taper 125 HT
RTX6 50 mid, 54 mid, 60 low / S400

Cameron Golo N5, Cameron Phantom X 7 custom knuckle, Spider X center

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You're right. Things can change based on load, aoa, etc, but the real difference in those things, or should I say more typical differences begin to occur around that 105mph mark and below and at 120 and above. Certain shafts can really become unusable from a launch and spin perspective at lower speeds if the player isn't very quick tempo or doesn't have a very late snappy release, or very high speeds things can become astronomically high launch, spin or all over the map if they don't suit the player.

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That proto is still a developmental product. I can't even play it even if I wanted to. The only reason I switched to the 2.0 AV white is to lower my ball flight with the SIM head, that launches too high for me, but is extremely hot faced and very low spin. It's splitting hairs on a launch monitor, but testing both on the golf course, I'm 5-8 yards of overall distance longer with the 2.0. Everything else other than Rogue White TX is substantially shorter overall for me. The secret proto, I know, corny way to say it at the moment, is definitely a contender once I can get one to really put some work into. I suspect it will hit Tour in the next 3 weeks to a month or so, and then there will be some access to the product.

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