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Hey All, I've convinced myself that I now need the 0311T Gen 3's. My reasons for wanting these is strictly due to everyone's comments about how soft these are with the kicker of a lot of forgiveness.

Anyway, as I have sat pondering these against the upcoming rumored Mizuno 921 SELs, Titleist T100s, and even possibly Miuras my question is:

Why have I never noticed a single "free agent" playing PXG? If they do have a feel that is truly better than anything else, and they have more forgiveness in a small package - wouldn't we see some free agents playing them?

I could be totally wrong with this and there may indeed be people playing them, but I just haven't noticed. And before we have 700 comments about getting fitted and that it doesn't matter what tour players play - I get it. I'm simply asking a question out of curiousity.

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Well in my experience watching tour pros who are equipment "free agents", they usually use Ping or Mizuno irons, TM or Titleist Drivers and woods. Never seen any pro using PXG and not being paid for it.

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Doesnt Ryan Armour play PXG irons? I'm pretty sure hes got a mixed bag or had one, at least. They make great irons, as good as anything else, which is why I can't justify spending the asking price personally... but don't blame anyone else for doing so!

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Ping G430 LST 15* HZRDUS smoke yellow 70s

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my guess is most free agents are plying the clubs they grew up with and waiting for a good equipment deal...

i believe pxg has gotten more involved in the college game, so I bet we will see more free agents playing pxg in the next five years.

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13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

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Totally agree. I’ve hit the gen3t’s and they didn’t wow me to the tune of 2500 bucks. I recently bought a set of cobra cb/mb for a fourth of that brand new. I won’t judge anyone on how they chose to spend their money.

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I never want to be negative and let me preface by saying I play a PXG hybrid and love it.... shape is close to the old Ping Anser.

PXG has no majors on the men’s side. PXG also has a lot of players that ran the other way after being under contract with them.... CHIII, Billy Horschel, Kirk.

i think they’re fine clubs. Are they better than everything else? Well, that’s sorta like saying my Vikings are a better than the Patriotswhsn we have no Lombadris to show for it.

Lastly, I commend PXG for their builds. They take good care, there.

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Charles Schwartzel would rather hand drill holes in a set of Miura irons than play PXG.

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My guess is they buy them for the same reason they have expensive cars and suits and shoes - it’s a status symbol. I’m not into buying them because they are expensive. I want to buy what feels and performs the best. I’ve never watched or read a review that shows me these are performing better than anything else but they cost double the price.

My brother and a few friends have raved about the forgiveness of these and online reviews tout the feel. It got my wheels turning but then I started asking myself why there is very little unpaid tour usage, things stopped adding up to me.

I have it on pretty good authority that multiple players on tour are going to go the free agency route at the end of this contract, so it will be interesting to see what sticks make it in the bag for 2021.

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Maybe just a little bit negative. Billy Horschel didn't "run the other way", his departure was a result of someone he had a close relationship with leaving PXG. CHIII was with PXG for a number of years and has been with quite a few club manufacturers during his 20 year career, currently Titiest, Mizuno before PXG, and probably 2 to 3 others.

To answer the OP's question, didn't Pat Perez play PXG for a year or two before they signed him?

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I belong to a private club and the only guys that play PXG are 15-20hcp'ers. It's kind of a GI brand at this point which is great it's just overpriced. Also Parsons doing the commercials hurts the brand and makes it a joke.

 

Also not many free agents out there as even guys that use TM get tee up money. Callaway and TM along with PING are the top played drivers for guys out there. Titleist gets a lot of play as well.

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There are plenty of LPGA pros that have, or have had, PXG clubs in the bag without sponsorship deals.

Nelly Korda currently has two PXG hybrids in her bag. Her sister Jessica has one hybrid.

Gaby Lopez won earlier this year with PXG irons and wedges in her bag.

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TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver 16 - Matrix Speed RUL-Z 60 Stiff
Ping G410 7wd 20.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (43")
Ping G410 9wd 23.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (42.5")
Ping G425 6h 30 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 70 Stiff
PXG 0311P Gen3 6-P (2 Deg Weak, 1 Deg Flat) - True Temper Elevate 95 S /

Ping i200 6-P Orange Dot (2 Deg Weak, 2 Deg Flat) - True Temper XP 95 S
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I would agree that Bob certainly does not help the brand, in my experience. I would also agree that I haven’t ever seen a set of these in the best player’s bags in any tournaments or at my club.

I guess thread has answered my questions. There are a few people who use them (or one or two clubs) in their bag but by and large, they seem to be focusing on the college ranks. As a brand, I certainly do not like how loud they are and I don’t particularly care for all the screws, etc.

I guess the only way to know if they are “better” than anything else is to just try them against everything I’m interested in.

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Fair point.....it’s hard to be critical without being negative. I would say that most of the players mentioned, CHIII, Billy Horschel, etc had very poor years performance wise when with PXG. Both of them are playing great back with old brands.

Again, I GAME a PXG. Are they good? Absolutely. Are they well built? Absolutely. Are they better in the hands of a club player or tour pro vs other brands? Zero evidence to support this and.... like the Perez example (he is gaming the SIM) to suggest otherwise.

I just try to look at data and facts, not commercials and price tags.

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Do you think they paid for them? I can't see that happening.

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Irons: Apex Pro '19 4-AW, Aerotech Steelfiber 95

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I play PXG gen2 XF irons. I overheard a coach I work with said that the main drawback for Tour players who tried PXG is the occasional flyer of the mid and long irons. It seems to be a common issue for form injected irons include TM P790. I am guessing that's the reason PXG is developing a solid forged model right now that will sits between ST and T. As an average weekend golfer, do I necessary care about occasional flyer? Not really. I think the reason I like the PXG irons is that when I'm not hitting the center of the clubs (like very often), it does not penalize you on the feel and distance.

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I don't think its a huge surprise that a bunch of tour players aren't in them, since, except for the new young guys, most of the guys on tour have been with one of the big 5 for years - even longer than PXG has been a company.

I play them because I got a great deal on them (sale + coupon + software bug that didn't uncharge Oban shafts...). I was looking for a club that had forgiveness and a heavy feel. I was coming from Apex Pro 19s, and while those play/are great clubs, I just couldn't handle the sound/feel of the cupface. I was eyeing T100s but didn't love the badging on the back (is that dumb.. yup.. but be who you are). The 718 AP2 are fantastic, but I couldn't find them to build anywhere. Those clubs at least don't click. The P760s didn't spin enough for me. I didn't love the JPX919T or forged, or MP20 MMC.

I had tried everything and these just sort of clicked the boxes - play well, no loss on forgiveness, soft/heavy feel, no click, low offset. And I didn't have to sacrifice on anything, and with the deal I got, it made sense.

As for pros, they change irons so infrequently, and change brands even less frequently, its not a surprise that they have a small tour staff.

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