Ernie Els standard length clubs?

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Does anyone know if he uses Standard length? I have seen him play a few times and they look standard to me.
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  • acquadiiceacquadiice Members  2282WRX Points: 0Posts: 2,282
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    um no<br />
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    i think he prob plays an inch over standard...
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  • Rob631Rob631 Members  97WRX Points: 0Posts: 97
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    acquadiice wrote:
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    um no<br />
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    i think he prob plays an inch over standard...<br />
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    Wow even his long irons look so small LOL. He is a big guy so its probably why it looks that way.<br />
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    Ahh.. Edited because I found this:<br />
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    Spec: Callaway Tour Authentic™ X-Prototype™ Irons; KB shafts, X-Stiff, half-inch longer than standard, lie angle 1-degree upright; lofts, 1-degree stronger than standard; swing weight, D3.
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  • mat562mat562 My ex had an irrational phobia of salad cream. Honestly. Members  10969WRX Points: 199Posts: 10,969 Titanium Tees
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    He plays irons half-an-inch over standard from what I remember. His driver's quite long, though. 45 1/2", if memory serves.<br />
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  • swingdoc80swingdoc80 Members  598WRX Points: 0Posts: 598
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    There are a few funny measurements about. Stuart Cink uses standard length apart from his PW which is 1/4 inch longer. And didnt Woosnam use longer than standard Mat ?
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  • Rob631Rob631 Members  97WRX Points: 0Posts: 97
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    swingdoc80 wrote:
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    There are a few funny measurements about. Stuart Cink uses standard length apart from his PW which is 1/4 inch longer. And didnt Woosnam use longer than standard Mat ?<br />
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    What's weird, is Els played 1/4" longer back in his titleist days. I guess he stands a little taller at address now? <br />
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    I think I heard that too about Woosnam.
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  • mat562mat562 My ex had an irrational phobia of salad cream. Honestly. Members  10969WRX Points: 199Posts: 10,969 Titanium Tees
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    I think Woosnam used standard length irons, to be honest, back in the 37 1/2" 5-iron days. Three degrees flat, though, if I remember rightly. And S400s, interestingly, given his length.<br />
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    Scott Hoch's clubs were always quite surprising to me. Similar height to me, at about 5' 11 1/2", but 4 degrees upright, I think. And 8.0 shafts, too, making his iron shafts among the stiffest out there at the time. I think Baddeley's playing a similar set-up now, something like 4 degrees upright, even at about 5'11" or so.<br />
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    Someone I know used to play a bit with a young Colin Montgomerie and some of his shafts were alarmingly soft. 4-point-something on the old Brunswick scale, I think. And that old Wilson lob wedge of his apparently had a very soft regular shaft in it.<br />
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    As you say, there are some surprising choices and fittings out there. They all work, though.<br />
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  • HCEG1HCEG1 Members  2124WRX Points: 0Posts: 2,124
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    mat562 wrote:
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    I think Woosnam used standard length irons, to be honest, back in the 37 1/2" 5-iron days. Three degrees flat, though, if I remember rightly. And S400s, interestingly, given his length.<br />
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    Scott Hoch's clubs were always quite surprising to me. Similar height to me, at about 5' 11 1/2", but 4 degrees upright, I think. And 8.0 shafts, too, making his iron shafts among the stiffest out there at the time. I think Baddeley's playing a similar set-up now, something like 4 degrees upright, even at about 5'11" or so.<br />
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    Someone I know used to play a bit with a young Colin Montgomerie and some of his shafts were alarmingly soft. 4-point-something on the old Brunswick scale, I think. And that old Wilson lob wedge of his apparently had a very soft regular shaft in it.<br />
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    As you say, there are some surprising choices and fittings out there. They all work, though.<br />
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    Raphael Jacquelin's irons are 3 degrees flat & he's a 6 footer (depending on which shoes he's wearing) They are obviously perfect for him, as there aren't many better iron players out there than him<br />
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    Cabrera, also a good 6 footer, has his Pings 1 degree flat<br />
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    A lot of it is finger tip to floor measurement, and, obviously, the plane/wrist angle each particular player has at impact <br />
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    I'm pretty tall but find that standard length & lie is just about spot on, as I have long arms. Having said that. I have a bag full of demo 6 irons varying from 2 degrees flat to 4 degrees upright, standard length & 1/2 over. I sometimes take several of them out to the practice ground & if I'm swinging well, they all work!
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  • ThrillhouseThrillhouse EVERYTHING'S COMING UP THRILLHOUSE! Members  11165WRX Points: 24Posts: 11,165 Titanium Tees
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    as per his website:<br />
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    Callaway RAZR X Forged Irons<br />
    Following the success and critical acclaim of Callaway's X-Prototype Forged irons comes this new model, the RAZR X Forged irons. This is an uncompromised forged iron for elite golfers. What sets it apart is the unique ‘Triple Net' forging process. This three-step forging yields superior feel and enables high-performance Tour CC grooves to be precision forged into each clubface.<br />
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    Spec: Callaway RAZR X Forged Irons; KBS Tour FST shafts, X-Stiff, half-inch longer than standard, lie angle 1-degree upright; lofts, 1-degree stronger than standard; swing weight, D3.<br />
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  • Jim ClarkJim Clark Banned  2264WRX Points: 1Posts: 2,264 Platinum Tees
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    The length of the clubs you need really depends on your wrist to floor measurement. I'm going to cut down my driver and 3-wood, they are currently too long for me.
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  • iBanestoiBanesto Niclas Fasth Members  4853WRX Points: 554Posts: 4,853 Titanium Tees
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    HCEG1 wrote:
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    mat562 wrote:
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    I think Woosnam used standard length irons, to be honest, back in the 37 1/2" 5-iron days. Three degrees flat, though, if I remember rightly. And S400s, interestingly, given his length.<br />
    <br />
    Scott Hoch's clubs were always quite surprising to me. Similar height to me, at about 5' 11 1/2", but 4 degrees upright, I think. And 8.0 shafts, too, making his iron shafts among the stiffest out there at the time. I think Baddeley's playing a similar set-up now, something like 4 degrees upright, even at about 5'11" or so.<br />
    <br />
    Someone I know used to play a bit with a young Colin Montgomerie and some of his shafts were alarmingly soft. 4-point-something on the old Brunswick scale, I think. And that old Wilson lob wedge of his apparently had a very soft regular shaft in it.<br />
    <br />
    As you say, there are some surprising choices and fittings out there. They all work, though.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Raphael Jacquelin's irons are 3 degrees flat & he's a 6 footer (depending on which shoes he's wearing) They are obviously perfect for him, as there aren't many better iron players out there than him<br />
    <br />
    Cabrera, also a good 6 footer, has his Pings 1 degree flat<br />
    <br />
    A lot of it is finger tip to floor measurement, and, obviously, the plane/wrist angle each particular player has at impact <br />
    <br />
    I'm pretty tall but find that standard length & lie is just about spot on, as I have long arms. Having said that. I have a bag full of demo 6 irons varying from 2 degrees flat to 4 degrees upright, standard length & 1/2 over. I sometimes take several of them out to the practice ground & if I'm swinging well, they all work!<br />
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    Jacquelin has that unique swing trigger when he makes the club upright before swinging away. I'm sure you know what I actually mean <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />
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  • Drexel64Drexel64 Members  378WRX Points: 76Posts: 378 Greens
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    Els use to use clubs 1 inch over but went to 1/2 over to gain control/comfort at address. <br />
    I believe he used 38.75 5 iron (when 37.75 was std) now uses 38.5 <br />
    Makes sense at 6,3 or 6,4 <br />
    John
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  • cinnepacinnepa Members  2208WRX Points: 116Posts: 2,208 Platinum Tees
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    yup, 6'-3" here and i'm only 1/4" over standard length....1 degree upright. as someone mentioned above - it all depends if you have ape-length arms or not. i do and probably could have gotten away with standard if i had to - my pings called for blue dot, 1/4" long.
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  • ryborybo Members  2239WRX Points: 133Handicap: +1.6Posts: 2,239 Platinum Tees
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    I was fortunate enough to be around Ernie for a day and we spoke about club length as I am 6' 4" and he is a bit taller then I. He has extremely long arms for his height. No joke when we stood next to each other his arms were several inches longer then mine. He said this is why he can pretty much play standard length clubs. <br />
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    And without having to say it, he swings so smooth it's insane! TV does him no justice. Seeing him swing in person is jaw dropping.
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  • HCEG1HCEG1 Members  2124WRX Points: 0Posts: 2,124
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    rybo wrote:
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    I was fortunate enough to be around Ernie for a day and we spoke about club length as I am 6' 4" and he is a bit taller then I. He has extremely long arms for his height. No joke when we stood next to each other his arms were several inches longer then mine. He said this is why he can pretty much play standard length clubs. <br />
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    And without having to say it, he swings so smooth it's insane! TV does him no justice. Seeing him swing in person is jaw dropping.<br />
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    Ernie's tall, but not a millimetre taller than 6' 3". I've been right next to him countless times<br />
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    http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/players/playerid=5576/index.html
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