Proto UST 'Recoil' Graphite Iron Shafts Spotted on Tour

[tbowles411]

[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1350570478' post='5811283']
The only thing missing.........." The're longer"

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Well they are graphite! LOL I would think that would be assumed, but honestly, I think these are more about controlled distance, more than just plain ol' distance.

[HipCheck]

Dang! These look gooooooood!

[Woodrow]

Princeton - a very good point. Golfers are aging - but manufacturers are interested in shock absorbing shafts - I think we'll find the prices will go down on Aerotechs, the new Recoil, and maybe even the Nunchuk. Graphite could be the buzz in shafts for 2013.

[Woodrow]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350512869' post='5808645']
We all know that graphite is pretty expensive. However, the flexibility and customization options you have with graphite, make this, in my opinion, pretty groundbreaking. The chief complaint and stereotype of graphite shafts are that they are inconsistent from shaft to shaft. This will go a long way in eliminating that.

I'm sure these will not be cheap. There are a lot of people that actually prefer graphite, and many like myself that actually need graphite keep us in the game.

That being said, I hope to have mine within a month or so.
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+1 bump for a good post

[UST Mamiya]

[quote name='BirdieBob' timestamp='1350570478' post='5811283']
The only thing missing.........." The're longer"

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Definitely longer ...the truth is when we started down this path with recoil, we sent out surveys to see what golfers were looking for in their iron shafts. What we found out was they wanted control and consistency and If they hit it longer, even better. The testing we have done with amateurs and tour players is that recoil has the control and consistency they are accustomed to and in some cases even better than their steel counterpart. The biggest feedback we got was the "feel" was better than anything out there.

[Bravo36]

I have the IS900's in a set of CMBs, and they are absolutely fantastic shafts and are all the UST claims they are. Plus, my left elbow tendonitis has all but disappeared.

[Vegaman]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350512869' post='5808645']
We all know that graphite is pretty expensive. However, the flexibility and customization options you have with graphite, make this, in my opinion, pretty groundbreaking. The chief complaint and stereotype of graphite shafts are that they are inconsistent from shaft to shaft. This will go a long way in eliminating that.

I'm sure these will not be cheap. There are a lot of people that actually prefer graphite, and many like myself that actually need graphite keep us in the game.

That being said, I hope to have mine within a month or so.
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What do you mean when you say you need graphite to keep you in the game?

[golfware]

Wow!! I'll take a set of 110's stiff please. Oh my!!

[tbowles411]

[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1350612377' post='5814851']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350512869' post='5808645']
We all know that graphite is pretty expensive. However, the flexibility and customization options you have with graphite, make this, in my opinion, pretty groundbreaking. The chief complaint and stereotype of graphite shafts are that they are inconsistent from shaft to shaft. This will go a long way in eliminating that.

I'm sure these will not be cheap. There are a lot of people that actually prefer graphite, and many like myself that actually need graphite keep us in the game.

That being said, I hope to have mine within a month or so.
[/quote]

What do you mean when you say you need graphite to keep you in the game?
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Arthritis in my arms and back. The orthropaedic surgeon at Walter Reed basically said, "Give up the game." After I told him, "Not only no, but..." He said, at least switch to graphite shafts. I couldn't take the shock of steel striking the ground. I was in agony and have walked off the course after 9 holes, just done. When pain goes through down your back and legs and up again, it's terrible. Graphite shafts have made a world of difference. I don't play in pain anymore.

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350613288' post='5814933']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1350612377' post='5814851']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350512869' post='5808645']
We all know that graphite is pretty expensive. However, the flexibility and customization options you have with graphite, make this, in my opinion, pretty groundbreaking. The chief complaint and stereotype of graphite shafts are that they are inconsistent from shaft to shaft. This will go a long way in eliminating that.

I'm sure these will not be cheap. There are a lot of people that actually prefer graphite, and many like myself that actually need graphite keep us in the game.

That being said, I hope to have mine within a month or so.
[/quote]

What do you mean when you say you need graphite to keep you in the game?
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Arthritis in my arms and back. The orthropaedic surgeon at Walter Reed basically said, "Give up the game." After I told him, "Not only no, but..." He said, at least switch to graphite shafts. I couldn't take the shock of steel striking the ground. I was in agony and have walked off the course after 9 holes, just done. When pain goes through down your back and legs and up again, it's terrible. Graphite shafts have made a world of difference. I don't play in pain anymore.
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If you would not take those hair piece divots your back would be perfectly fine....

[tbowles411]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1350613651' post='5814979']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350613288' post='5814933']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1350612377' post='5814851']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1350512869' post='5808645']
We all know that graphite is pretty expensive. However, the flexibility and customization options you have with graphite, make this, in my opinion, pretty groundbreaking. The chief complaint and stereotype of graphite shafts are that they are inconsistent from shaft to shaft. This will go a long way in eliminating that.

I'm sure these will not be cheap. There are a lot of people that actually prefer graphite, and many like myself that actually need graphite keep us in the game.

That being said, I hope to have mine within a month or so.
[/quote]

What do you mean when you say you need graphite to keep you in the game?
[/quote]
Arthritis in my arms and back. The orthropaedic surgeon at Walter Reed basically said, "Give up the game." After I told him, "Not only no, but..." He said, at least switch to graphite shafts. I couldn't take the shock of steel striking the ground. I was in agony and have walked off the course after 9 holes, just done. When pain goes through down your back and legs and up again, it's terrible. Graphite shafts have made a world of difference. I don't play in pain anymore.
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If you would not take those hair piece divots your back would be perfectly fine....
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Actually I worked that out this year. I'm nipping them off the grass now. I was so proud of myself!

[hayzooos]

[quote name='UST Mamiya' timestamp='1350575483' post='5811739']

Definitely longer ...the truth is when we started down this path with recoil, we sent out surveys to see what golfers were looking for in their iron shafts. What we found out was [b]they wanted control and consistency and If they hit it longer, even better.[/b] The testing we have done with amateurs and tour players is that recoil has the control and consistency they are accustomed to and in some cases even better than their steel counterpart. The biggest feedback we got was the "feel" was better than anything out there.
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Fricking awesome! I'm so glad this is what you guys found as I'm sure that's the general consensus among people on this board, and we all know we're the biggest golf junkies out there.

That's been the only knack I can tell for graphite shafted irons, is the lack in consistency. If you can match steel, you have a winner. If you can beat it...well...it'll frankly change the game as we know it.

[OrangeCrush]

TBowles

I feel your pain my man. I too have suffered one of those injuries that I should have just quit the game but I just love it too much. I had to stop playing for 9 mths and then I had to space out the playing time to let my elbow heel. This was July 2004 it happened and I STILL have to be careful. Something about this damm game that just keeps sucking you back in! I think it makes us an offer we can't refuse! LOL

[RIDuffer]

[quote name='OrangeCrush' timestamp='1350498275' post='5807415']

Can you eloborate what the improvements/differences are for the Tour & Prototype 125's are to the current IS990 shafts?

Thank you.
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+1 on the request… Have a set with the IS980/990 as well as a set of the Tour Attas shafts. Would love to know the comparisons...

[RIDuffer]

Was just informed by UST that the IS 900 was the Prototype for the Recoil...

[Dmax]

Any idea on price for a set of the tour prototype?

[ExoticsGuy13]

[quote name='Dmax' timestamp='1350775401' post='5822155']
Any idea on price for a set of the tour prototype?
[/quote]The TourSPX MAP pricing on the shafts is $112.50per shaft. But, like all TourSPX shafts the Tour Protos are meant to be fitted and installed there for "additional charges may apply".
I have a couple models coming my way for testing.

[PreppySlapCut]

Going to be a tough sell. People think Aerotech's are expensive at less than 1/3 the price of these...I'm all for performance benefits, but you better be able to deliver some REAL improvements for people to just arbitrarily drop ~$1,000 on a set of iron shafts...

[tbowles411]

[quote name='PreppySlapCut' timestamp='1351038207' post='5836377']
Going to be a tough sell. People think Aerotech's are expensive at less than 1/3 the price of these...I'm all for performance benefits, but you better be able to deliver some REAL improvements for people to just arbitrarily drop ~$1,000 on a set of iron shafts...
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Well, there's only one way to find out...

[Kadin 25]

Looking good.

[RIDuffer]

I have tried the Aerotechs prior to making the plunge to graphite shafts... No matter what weight and flex, tipped and stepped I could not get the ball flight lower. With the IS900 I am able to control trajectory quite well. Also when you go with the TourSPX you will get a matched set... Quite a comforting feeling seeing the shaft specs and knowing there is negligible variability shaft to shaft...

[OrangeCrush]

[quote name='PreppySlapCut' timestamp='1351038207' post='5836377']
Going to be a tough sell. People think Aerotech's are expensive at less than 1/3 the price of these...I'm all for performance benefits, but you better be able to deliver some REAL improvements for people to just arbitrarily drop ~$1,000 on a set of iron shafts...
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The street price is closer to $80.00 each like the IS990s. I spoke to dealer about doing a set of i125cw's and IS990s. 4-PW (with grips) were about $375 i125's and $650ish for the IS990's.

[ExoticsGuy13]

Looks like I gots me some testin' to do ! [attachment=1397513:shafts.JPG]

[tbowles411]

Jealous!!!

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1351279028' post='5850773']
Jealous!!!
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I'm sure you could have them if you wanted them........

[tbowles411]

[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1351279689' post='5850835']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1351279028' post='5850773']
Jealous!!!
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I'm sure you could have them if you wanted them........
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In due time my friend...

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1351282453' post='5851075']
[quote name='TheMoneyShot' timestamp='1351279689' post='5850835']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1351279028' post='5850773']
Jealous!!!
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I'm sure you could have them if you wanted them........
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In due time my friend...
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I had a feeling that you were going to say that...

[tbowles411]

[TheMoneyShot]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1351301124' post='5852599']

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Your to much!

[Shug Wy Tee]

[quote name='AdamsStaffer2010 ' timestamp='1351267721' post='5849825']
Looks like I gots me some testin' to do ! [attachment=1397513:shafts.JPG]
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So where you able to test these out yet? I was interested in the IS900 series, but are the evolution to those.