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Had to hit the Costco today and they have 24 packs of Callaway Hex Control golf balls. Box says they are a 3 piece ball. I bought a box because they cost $29 for 24 balls. I'm heading down to HHI this weekend and it seems a shame to sink new Pro V's after going 3 months with no golf. Any idea what model this might actually be??

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Called callaway and asked about the balls they have there. Asked specifically what they compare to. According to representative on the phone, it was explained to me like this:

Callaway hex pro is four piece ball, dual core with a urethane cover. What is it like, a tour I(s). Basically a tour i(s) with an updated cover material. I would guess it is same material on the other current urethane balls. $24.99 dz. btw, the are yellow cover here in Michigan

Callaway hex control is a hx bite with a new cover material. Hopefully this new cover is more durable than the original bite cover. I could chew that cover with my very moderate swing speed. 2dz @ $29.99

This all make sense if you think about it, release and older ball technology with new improved cover material that they are now producing.

If you liked the hx bite or the tour i(s), than you can't pass this deal, especially on the hex control at $15 dz.

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I got some of these and like them so I did a little research. They look to be last years HX Bite, but with the new softer cover:

[url="http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/additional-product-offerings/hex-control-golf-ball/specs.html"]http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/additional-product-offerings/hex-control-golf-ball/specs.html[/url]

VS.

[url="http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/hx-hot-bite-golf-ball.html"]http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/hx-hot-bite-golf-ball.html[/url]

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Call me a cynic, but if they're a special made for Costco 24 pack ball, I suspect that first and foremost any changes made were done to make it cost less to produce rather than make any improvements.

Otherwise why would they bother with the expense of changing things up for a ball that's selling at bottom feeder prices?

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[quote name='BlkNGld' timestamp='1370016697' post='7143554']
Call me a cynic, but if they're a special made for Costco 24 pack ball, I suspect that first and foremost any changes made were done to make it cost less to produce rather than make any improvements.

Otherwise why would they bother with the expense of changing things up for a ball that's selling at bottom feeder prices?
[/quote]

Costco is not in the business of selling poor quality merchandise. Just because its cheaper doesn't make it "cheaper." In actuality, Coscto prides itself on its quality and will go to far lengths to insure it. For example, they have commissioned apparel companies like Perry Ellis to make their "kirkland" brand mens shirts and pants.

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> [color=#282828]They look to be last years HX Bite, but with the new softer cover:[/color]

Based on their specifications, they actually appear to be most similar to the HX Hot Bite or Hex Hot.

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[quote name='HateTheHighDraw' timestamp='1370023663' post='7144470']
[quote name='BlkNGld' timestamp='1370016697' post='7143554']
Call me a cynic, but if they're a special made for Costco 24 pack ball, I suspect that first and foremost any changes made were done to make it cost less to produce rather than make any improvements.

Otherwise why would they bother with the expense of changing things up for a ball that's selling at bottom feeder prices?
[/quote]

Costco is not in the business of selling poor quality merchandise. Just because its cheaper doesn't make it "cheaper." In actuality, Coscto prides itself on its quality and will go to far lengths to insure it. For example, they have commissioned apparel companies like Perry Ellis to make their "kirkland" brand mens shirts and pants.
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All I'm saying is that Callaway has to hit a price point along with a quality level. Doesn't mean they aren't a good value ball, but no one should expect that one at this price point will perform the same as their higher priced ones, as it would destroy their value model. I'm sure they're better than the Titelist HVCs that used to be there, but that's another thread.

I've bought a bunch of the Callaway gloves they're currently selling. They're good gloves, but having some of the regular Callaway gloves I can readily tell the differences. I recognize that and choose to accept them for the price difference. At the same time there are some lines (the Greg Norman apparel for example) where I find the Costco versions to have cut too many corners for my liking.

Putting stuff on the Kirkland Sig brand is in many ways less complicated because the supplier is rarely known. It just depends on a product by product basis which way is better. Note the flip flopping between Callaway and K-S glove brands, for example.

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[quote name='BlkNGld' timestamp='1370883614' post='7206188']
[quote name='HateTheHighDraw' timestamp='1370023663' post='7144470']
[quote name='BlkNGld' timestamp='1370016697' post='7143554']
Call me a cynic, but if they're a special made for Costco 24 pack ball, I suspect that first and foremost any changes made were done to make it cost less to produce rather than make any improvements.

Otherwise why would they bother with the expense of changing things up for a ball that's selling at bottom feeder prices?
[/quote]

Costco is not in the business of selling poor quality merchandise. Just because its cheaper doesn't make it "cheaper." In actuality, Coscto prides itself on its quality and will go to far lengths to insure it. For example, they have commissioned apparel companies like Perry Ellis to make their "kirkland" brand mens shirts and pants.
[/quote]

All I'm saying is that Callaway has to hit a price point along with a quality level. Doesn't mean they aren't a good value ball, but no one should expect that one at this price point will perform the same as their higher priced ones, as it would destroy their value model. I'm sure they're better than the Titelist HVCs that used to be there, but that's another thread.

I've bought a bunch of the Callaway gloves they're currently selling. They're good gloves, but having some of the regular Callaway gloves I can readily tell the differences. I recognize that and choose to accept them for the price difference. At the same time there are some lines (the Greg Norman apparel for example) where I find the Costco versions to have cut too many corners for my liking.

Putting stuff on the Kirkland Sig brand is in many ways less complicated because the supplier is rarely known. It just depends on a product by product basis which way is better. Note the flip flopping between Callaway and K-S glove brands, for example.
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Rebranding products for mega discount retailers is common. Electronics manufacturers do the same thing and many times the product will be identical to what you find at other retailers only with a different model number to avoid pricing issues with the manufacturers other accounts.

The Callaway HEX Control is likely a rebranded HEX Hot Pro. They also had a ball called the HX Hot Pro which was a rebranded HX Diablo Tour available at Costco/Sams Club last year. The HEX Pro looks to be a rebranded Tour i(s).

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OK, after reading this thread, I picked up some of these just for a change from the Penta TP5. I like the Penta, but sometimes it feels just a little TOO soft.

Played it and the best way to sum up my experience is that I hit it scared. I really don't know how far these things are gonna go. They come off hot from all club faces. Drives were easily 20-25 yds longer than I'm accustomed to. Irons were the same, almost 2 clubs longer. No changes in my swing or game lately. I thought I was being silly and overestimating the difference, but even they guy I was playing with who knows my game noticed. Is the ball really that much better? Probably a combination of not playing the optimum ball for me previously and this ball being better suited to the conditions.

It was gusty, but I played in all directions and it was always the same. Holds the line in the wind pretty darn well.

They definitely feel firmer on contact, no question. I'm not what I'd consider a high spin player. Just about any ball gives me the drop-n-hop-n-stop. Sometimes I'll get 2-3 ft of backspin on an approach shot under ideal conditions, but it's a rarity. These do the same thing, except I'm always much further than I anticipated. That said, the hot launch comes into play greenside as well. Definitely have to adjust for that.

I also like the way they putt more than the Penta. They just have a 'truer' feel to them for me. Not clicky, but not that muted 'tock' you get from a lot of urethane balls either. I feel I can hit these firmer and they seem to hold the line better. Must be a metal confidence thing from the feel and sound.

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These balls are the hex hot's that are sold at the golf retailers. Good ball for the price, and as some others have said, straight off the tee and not bad with approaches.

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[quote name='BlkNGld' timestamp='1370016697' post='7143554'] Call me a cynic, but if they're a special made for Costco 24 pack ball, I suspect that first and foremost any changes made were done to make it cost less to produce rather than make any improvements. Otherwise why would they bother with the expense of changing things up for a ball that's selling at bottom feeder prices? [/quote]

First, you need to understand how Costco works. Their whole model is built on the premise of extremely small margins for them. They have a max margin that they are allowed to make. It is against company policy to exceed it (and it is stoopid low margin).

Between that and the volume that Costco generates, it can be very advantageous for suppliers, even those with strong brands and consumers get great products at a great value. And the suppliers still make excellent margin as well.

We deal extensively with Costco and they are an excellent partner and retailer. Just because something is inexpensive does not mean it is cheap. There are a number of factors that go into a products final retail price.

As for the balls, I grabbed a case when my wife and i went in to buy a patio set. Great ball, especially at that price. They come of the face really hot and still have nice touch around the greens.

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[quote name='Super Tuna' timestamp='1372269217' post='7328660']
Total side note, but the Costco here are selling TM Rocketbladez Stage 2 woods now. Intriguing, especially because they're undercutting Golftown/Golfsmith by $40 a club
[/quote]

Whoa! Costco is selling RBZ stg 2s? It's not some rebranded TM club? For $40 better than GS that's pretty awesome!

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I am intrigued by the Hex Pro available at Costco now for $25/dozen. My cursory research still hasn't produced a clear answer as to what this ball actually is.

These are the spec pages from Callaway's website. Anyone care to translate the technical jargon to tell one way or another what ball the Hex Pro is most comparable to?

Callway Hex Pro
http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/additional-product-offerings/hex-pro-golf-ball/specs.html

Callaway Tour i(s)
http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/tour-is-golf-ball.html

Callaway Tour i(z)
http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/tour-iz-golf-ball.html

There aren't many 4-piece balls out there. My gut tells me that the theory about it being a rebranded i(s) seems pretty plausible. The specs aren't identical, but close from what I can tell.

I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts.

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[quote name='efduffer' timestamp='1372191385' post='7322676']


Drives were easily 20-25 yds longer than I'm accustomed to. Irons were the same, almost 2 clubs longer.


[/quote]

:cheesy: I'm sorry, but you really think the ball makes that much of a difference?

Give yourself some credit. You were hitting it a lot better today.

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[quote name='blink3665' timestamp='1372272997' post='7329116']
[quote name='Super Tuna' timestamp='1372269217' post='7328660']
Total side note, but the Costco here are selling TM Rocketbladez Stage 2 woods now. Intriguing, especially because they're undercutting Golftown/Golfsmith by $40 a club
[/quote]
Whoa! Costco is selling RBZ stg 2s? It's not some rebranded TM club? For $40 better than GS that's pretty awesome!
[/quote]real deal

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[quote name='orangebang' timestamp='1373100477' post='7397052']
[quote name='efduffer' timestamp='1372191385' post='7322676']
Drives were easily 20-25 yds longer than I'm accustomed to. Irons were the same, almost 2 clubs longer.


[/quote]

:cheesy: I'm sorry, but you really think the ball makes that much of a difference?

Give yourself some credit. You were hitting it a lot better today.
[/quote]

Agree! I've never use any club or ball that was two clubs different from any other.

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[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1373142500' post='7399106']
[quote name='orangebang' timestamp='1373100477' post='7397052']
[quote name='efduffer' timestamp='1372191385' post='7322676']
Drives were easily 20-25 yds longer than I'm accustomed to. Irons were the same, almost 2 clubs longer.


[/quote]

:cheesy: I'm sorry, but you really think the ball makes that much of a difference?

Give yourself some credit. You were hitting it a lot better today.
[/quote]

Agree! I've never use any club or ball that was two clubs different from any other.
[/quote]

While generally I'd agree, I can't quite figure it out. At first I thought I was overestimating the difference and was just being overly optimistic about the improvement. They are longer, but I couldn't figure out why. So I compared the Hex Control, Penta TP5, and the NXT Tour.

The Control was usually longer by 15-20 yds over the TP5, but not as much of a gain over the NXT, maybe a club, 10 yds or so.

Now I will admit that some of the relative difference was probably due to using a ball not well suited to my swing (TP5). I was only using it because I could get it fairly cheap, it was reliable from a consistency standpoint, and it felt good off the club face. Never thought I'd see that kind of difference in distance due to just a ball. While it's fun to hit it that far, I'm not a huge fan of the ball since I hate having to do all the mental math for club selection when using it. Like I said before, I hit it scared, I'm not used to hitting my 56 100 yds, etc, so it's too unpredictable for me.

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[quote name='DJQwrx' timestamp='1373076958' post='7395838']
I am intrigued by the Hex Pro available at Costco now for $25/dozen. My cursory research still hasn't produced a clear answer as to what this ball actually is.

These are the spec pages from Callaway's website. Anyone care to translate the technical jargon to tell one way or another what ball the Hex Pro is most comparable to?

Callway Hex Pro
[url="http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/additional-product-offerings/hex-pro-golf-ball/specs.html"]http://www.callawayg...ball/specs.html[/url]

Callaway Tour i(s)
[url="http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/tour-is-golf-ball.html"]http://www.callawayg...-golf-ball.html[/url]

Callaway Tour i(z)
[url="http://www.callawaygolf.com/global/en-us/golf-equipment/classic-golf-equipment/tour-iz-golf-ball.html"]http://www.callawayg...-golf-ball.html[/url]

There aren't many 4-piece balls out there. My gut tells me that the theory about it being a rebranded i(s) seems pretty plausible. The specs aren't identical, but close from what I can tell.

I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts.
[/quote]

Hex Pro does look interesting. The outer 2 layers are closer specs to the Hex Black than the old (i) balls.

I might have to pick up a dozen.

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[quote name='HackerDave' timestamp='1362072466' post='6520707']
Had to hit the Costco today and they have 24 packs of Callaway Hex Control golf balls. Box says they are a 3 piece ball. I bought a box because they cost $29 for 24 balls. I'm heading down to HHI this weekend and it seems a shame to sink new Pro V's after going 3 months with no golf. Any idea what model this might actually be??
[/quote]

Seems like a good price. I played the HX Hot Bite and liked them.

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[quote name='efduffer' timestamp='1373163580' post='7400712']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1373142500' post='7399106']
[quote name='orangebang' timestamp='1373100477' post='7397052']
[quote name='efduffer' timestamp='1372191385' post='7322676']
Drives were easily 20-25 yds longer than I'm accustomed to. Irons were the same, almost 2 clubs longer.


[/quote]

:cheesy: I'm sorry, but you really think the ball makes that much of a difference?

Give yourself some credit. You were hitting it a lot better today.
[/quote]

Agree! I've never use any club or ball that was two clubs different from any other.
[/quote]

While generally I'd agree, I can't quite figure it out. At first I thought I was overestimating the difference and was just being overly optimistic about the improvement. They are longer, but I couldn't figure out why. So I compared the Hex Control, Penta TP5, and the NXT Tour.

The Control was usually longer by 15-20 yds over the TP5, but not as much of a gain over the NXT, maybe a club, 10 yds or so.

Now I will admit that some of the relative difference was probably due to using a ball not well suited to my swing (TP5). I was only using it because I could get it fairly cheap, it was reliable from a consistency standpoint, and it felt good off the club face. Never thought I'd see that kind of difference in distance due to just a ball. While it's fun to hit it that far, I'm not a huge fan of the ball since I hate having to do all the mental math for club selection when using it. Like I said before, I hit it scared, I'm not used to hitting my 56 100 yds, etc, so it's too unpredictable for me.
[/quote]

Have anyone tried and compare Hex Control and Hex Distance? Thx

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I would tell anyone with a Costco membership to get these balls. I bought the Hex Control and love them. I had been playing Bridgestone e6's to start the season but with the combination of better price and worthy performance I don't plan to switch from these unless Costco stops selling them. I thought they felt real nice off all my clubs, had a pretty good trajectory, and held greens really well.

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      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #1
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Garrick Higgo - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Billy Horschel - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Lanto Griffin - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bud Cauley - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Corbin Burnes (2021 NL Cy Young) - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Charley Hoffman - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Victor Perez - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ryo Hisatsune - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Jake Knapp's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      New Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Tyler Duncan's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sunjae Im's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ping's Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Vincent Whaley's custom Cameron - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Odyssey Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Super Stroke custom grips - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Zac Blair's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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