E6 vs B330 RXS

[Milesy]

I've been an E6 user for around 3 years now and find it an excellent ball. During those 3 years I've lowered my handicap by around 5 shots to a 12. No doubt the E6 has been part of the reason but so have other things like coaching, practice and gear improvements.

 

I'm now at a stage where I'd like better control of approach shots and green-side play. Therefore I've been using the RXS for the last month or so.

 

Surprisingly I don't feel that I've lost any distance off the Driver. If anything when I really get hold of one it seems to go further than the E6. Dispersion seems little different as well, although I've noticed when playing into a strong headwind that the spin on the RXS is more evident.

 

With irons and full wedges I've noticed the RXS is around half a club shorter than the E6 but this is basically the extra spin imparted. By taking a longer club I've still been able to get some good stop on the ball, allowing me to really attack the pin. There is also more side-spin off the irons but adjusting the club face and swing slightly allows me to use it productively.

 

Wedge play is more predictable with the RXS and putting is no different.

 

Anyone else with a view on these two balls? Similar balls to the RXS that I might try?

[trapsmv15]

Like you, I've been an avid e6 user and enjoy the half-club increase in the irons/wedges, finding that that applies compared to almost every other golf ball.

I'm making some assumptions here, but some similar balls would most likely be Project A (by testers' accounts, equivalent); RBZU/Z-Star SL (little more distance, little less green side spin); Burner TP/Lady IQ+/Supersoft/etc (more distance, less green side spin); then down to the e6.

[Conrad1953]

Both good balls. The RXS gives you more control on
approaches and is better all around.

[backtees]

From my point of view the E6 is a consistently performing and very good golf ball that does what they promise: long distance and straight as an arrow combined with a very soft feel due to the low compression of the ball.

The RXS is a different pair of shoes: also long, also soft and quite straight but the S in the name RXS means that you get quite some spin and therefore more control – if you want and really need that.

Being a lower handicapper does not automatically mean that one has to play a different (tour) ball. There are plenty of single handicappers around which stick to their low-budget 2-piece ball. A friend of mine with an index of 0.7 plays the Callaway Warbird for years.

[Fourmyle of Ceres]

The e6 is about my favorite among balls that don't spin. But they ought to be good since they go for like $27/dozen and it's darned hard to find much of a discount on them.

The B330-RXS is a good ball that does spin but I couldn't say I like it better than a ProV1 or Lethal or several other of the "Tour" balls. It plays very ProV1-like to me. And once again, darned hard to find them for less than about $3.00 or $3.50 per ball. Lots of good "Tour" type balls that spin for about half that much.

[tknurek]

I play the E6's for winter ball and the RXS for the regular season. The RXS is my favorite but I do notice a slight loss in distance over the E6 in cold temps.

[Hidalgo]

The RXS and the e6 are two entirely different animals. The e6 is designed for straight distance. Straight=No Spin.

When I first worked with a true top-line professional instructor he told me that I had to learn to control the golf ball. Not hit it 10 miles, but control it. When I learned to do that, my game went from reasonable to pretty darn good. If a ball doesn't spin, you have no control over it. If you can't control a ball that spins, you need to work on your technique. That is ... if you want to improve.

[mikes919]

I prefer the regular B330S to the RXS even though I'm on the cusp for swing speed. I find it to spin the same around the greens but fly straighter off the tee. Definitely a firmer feel though.

[MaydayGSXR]

[quote name='Hidalgo' timestamp='1395012756' post='8885737']
The RXS and the e6 are two entirely different animals. The e6 is designed for straight distance. Straight=No Spin.

When I first worked with a true top-line professional instructor he told me that I had to learn to control the golf ball. Not hit it 10 miles, but control it. When I learned to do that, my game went from reasonable to pretty darn good. If a ball doesn't spin, you have no control over it. If you can't control a ball that spins, you need to work on your technique. That is ... if you want to improve.
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Haney told me to crush it, heh. He worked with me to control it in order to hit it well and keep it in play, but he was all about distance.

[Hidalgo]

[quote name='MaydayGSXR' timestamp='1395047642' post='8888105']
[quote name='Hidalgo' timestamp='1395012756' post='8885737']
The RXS and the e6 are two entirely different animals. The e6 is designed for straight distance. Straight=No Spin.

When I first worked with a true top-line professional instructor he told me that I had to learn to control the golf ball. Not hit it 10 miles, but control it. When I learned to do that, my game went from reasonable to pretty darn good. If a ball doesn't spin, you have no control over it. If you can't control a ball that spins, you need to work on your technique. That is ... if you want to improve.
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Haney told me to crush it, heh. He worked with me to control it in order to hit it well and keep it in play, but he was all about distance.
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Different strokes I suppose. Where did you work with Hank?

[Martini122]

I tried the RSX and it had a little more spin. Although I really love the straight distance from the e6, it kind of seems like a bit of a "crutch" to combat my tendency to snap-hook from time to time. I think it's like one of the posters said above, if you want to really learn to control the ball, then you have to learn to control the spin via a better swing.

[CactusGolf]

I couldn't stand anything in the e-series. They didn't feel good!

I had been playing the B330-RXS for the past year and really loved it.

Soft and spun enough to hold greens.

[golfcaddy1969]

Don't understand the spin comments about the E6 with irons and wedges. I can still stop the ball with longer irons and even back it up with 9 iron or wedge. If you look at the older GD ball chart it is one of the best all around balls for driver spin versus iron or wedge spin. Not for everyone I know but it is for those who realize they are not low handicap players

[MadGolfer76]

[quote name='golfcaddy1969' timestamp='1395107535' post='8894419']
Don't understand the spin comments about the E6 with irons and wedges. I can still stop the ball with longer irons and even back it up with 9 iron or wedge. If you look at the older GD ball chart it is one of the best all around balls for driver spin versus iron or wedge spin. Not for everyone I know but it is for those who realize they are not low handicap players
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The older charts may as well be a different ball. I get what you are saying though. A well struck shot mitigates some of the spin issues, but the RXS is still clearly a better choice if someone needs some extra spin in all areas. I like the E6 too.

[MaydayGSXR]

[quote name='Hidalgo' timestamp='1395058621' post='8888445']
[quote name='MaydayGSXR' timestamp='1395047642' post='8888105']
[quote name='Hidalgo' timestamp='1395012756' post='8885737']
The RXS and the e6 are two entirely different animals. The e6 is designed for straight distance. Straight=No Spin.

When I first worked with a true top-line professional instructor he told me that I had to learn to control the golf ball. Not hit it 10 miles, but control it. When I learned to do that, my game went from reasonable to pretty darn good. If a ball doesn't spin, you have no control over it. If you can't control a ball that spins, you need to work on your technique. That is ... if you want to improve.
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Haney told me to crush it, heh. He worked with me to control it in order to hit it well and keep it in play, but he was all about distance.
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Different strokes I suppose. Where did you work with Hank?
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Down in Naples (at the Shark Templeton Pro-Am) on the JetSpeed trip. Haney gave us a half day range lesson and spent 3 days hanging out with us on and off the course. Was a blast.

[Milesy]

[quote name='golfcaddy1969' timestamp='1395107535' post='8894419']
Don't understand the spin comments about the E6 with irons and wedges. I can still stop the ball with longer irons and even back it up with 9 iron or wedge. If you look at the older GD ball chart it is one of the best all around balls for driver spin versus iron or wedge spin. Not for everyone I know but it is for those who realize they are not low handicap players
[/quote]

Good comment thanks Golfcaddie. I agree with you that the E6 spins well enough with irons and wedges. It's an excellent ball. However it's more of a hop, hop and stop situation with the E6 whereas the RXS pretty much stops beside the pitch mark for me, even with an 8 iron. I'm a sweeper with low spin so have never backed up an E6 with any club. I may end up back with the E6 after this experiment but at the moment it's looking like the RXS might help me get to my lifetime objective of a single figure handicap.

In a practice round on Monday evening using the RXS I short sided myself and had to flop a LW out of long grass to an elevated pin on a down-slope. I walked up the mound expecting the ball to be 10 feet past the hole, only to find it finished up short of the hole by two feet! Sunk the putt for an unexpected (and probably undeserved) par. Had I hit 20 E6's from that position I would not got one of them that close.

[plusfore]

The low compression of the E6 and the Duo are my choices for cooler temps when the greens tend to be wet and soft so "hop and stop" is not an issue with my mid to high ball flight. However, I switch to the B330-RXS or the TM Penta 5 (still have a few dozen) in the summer months when the greens are firmer and I need a little more spin into and around the greens.

[needfasp3ed]

I recently got a great deal on used E6 balls for a price I couldn't pass up. I'm new to the whole "care about what ball you are using" thing since I am fairly new to the game (2 years). Will I still be getting the good benefits from a used E6 compared to a new one?

[Hidalgo]

[quote name='needfasp3ed' timestamp='1395188704' post='8900821']
I recently got a great deal on used E6 balls for a price I couldn't pass up. I'm new to the whole "care about what ball you are using" thing since I am fairly new to the game (2 years). Will I still be getting the good benefits from a used E6 compared to a new one?
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It depends on how "used" they are. If they are water balls you'll be penalizing yourself dramatically. Lots of folks including some members on here purchase used balls from LostGolfBalls.com and have excellent transactions with them. Just a thought for the "next time".

[Hidalgo]

[quote name='MaydayGSXR' timestamp='1395109296' post='8894637']
Down in Naples (at the Shark Templeton Pro-Am) on the JetSpeed trip. Haney gave us a half day range lesson and spent 3 days hanging out with us on and off the course. Was a blast.
[/quote]

GREAT! I met Hank and talked to him for quite a while several years ago when he was coaching Tiger. He's a great guy and is a wealth of knowledge. Kinda surprises me that he was preaching distance because he's always been a "technique" instructor. Glad you had a good interaction with him.

[jimb6golf]

Although the E6 and 330RXS are both terrific balls, they are very different animals. As mentioned above, the E6 is meant for straight ball flight and distance, while the 330 series are tour level balls that provide distance and greenside spin. You will notice the difference on chips around the green. The 330 series is equivalent to the ProV1s and other similar balls. However if you don't wish to spend close to $4 per ball I would suggest trying some of the balls that are a step down but perform terrifically for most mid-handicappers - such as the TM RBZ urethane/ Project A, Callaway Chrome/ Chrome +, and other similar balls with urethane covers. The urethane covers really make a difference around the green too, and they're usually around $10 less per dozen. Good luck with your selection.

[MaydayGSXR]

[quote name='Hidalgo' timestamp='1395191099' post='8901135']
[quote name='MaydayGSXR' timestamp='1395109296' post='8894637']
Down in Naples (at the Shark Templeton Pro-Am) on the JetSpeed trip. Haney gave us a half day range lesson and spent 3 days hanging out with us on and off the course. Was a blast.
[/quote]

GREAT! I met Hank and talked to him for quite a while several years ago when he was coaching Tiger. He's a great guy and is a wealth of knowledge. Kinda surprises me that he was preaching distance because he's always been a "technique" instructor. Glad you had a good interaction with him.
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Oh he was very much a technique instructor, but the way he taught it - it just seemed so simple. He could explain things to you in a way that you could get it right within a few swings sometimes. Maybe the fact that he is doing a lot with TMAG now = he is preaching more distance. I also think he was comparing apples to oranges when working with us amateurs, saying distance was a pretty big factor in scoring when considering the difference in club length (between pro's and schmo's). He was a great guy, very fun to talk with.

[Ranchobob]

[quote name='Martini122' timestamp='1395083055' post='8891351']
I tried the RSX and it had a little more spin. Although I really love the straight distance from the e6, it kind of seems like a bit of a "crutch" to combat my tendency to snap-hook from time to time. I think it's like one of the posters said above, if you want to really learn to control the ball, then you have to learn to control the spin via a better swing.
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So is it good or bad that I can snap hook the f%#+ out of an E6 on occasion?

[cornbred19]

i can also attest that the backspin difference between the e6 and any tour ball is most noticeable around the greens, especially fast greens...the E series almost rolls out like a distance ball on fast greens with little checking zip...but from tee to green, quality ball...

[Fourmyle of Ceres]

[quote name='cornbred19' timestamp='1395320613' post='8910075']
i can also attest that the backspin difference between the e6 and any tour ball is most noticeable around the greens, especially fast greens...the E series almost rolls out like a distance ball on fast greens with little checking zip...but from tee to green, quality ball...
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And that points out another fallacy with the "Surlyn balls for low clubhead speed players" line of thinking. For a person with decent clubhead speed, the e6 or similar may be very controllable on full swing approach shots. But for those of us who only hit a 7-iron 135 or 140 yards even those short to mid-iron shots are lacking backspin. And e6 will jump forward pretty badly on full-swing shots from a 7-iron/8-iron for me while a "Tour" ball will sit right next to its ball mark with a 5-iron.

Heck I play with people who can suck back an NXT Tour with an 7-iron. I hit the same shot with a ProV1 and it hops forward a foot or two.