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64* lob wedge any of you use? WOW. It's almost like cheating


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[quote name='pasadenagolfer' timestamp='1407369681' post='9875003']
64 is my favorite club. It forces you to hit ball first or it punishes you bad!

[b]Once I got this club mastered[/b], it it helping me with the rest of my clubs! Best training aid I ever bought.
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Exactly why its a terrible club and waste of bag space for most people. They should spend their time learning to hit what they have from every lie and condition and every face angle. Seriously if a player can't get it done with a 60 ( or 54-56 for that matter) then a new club is probably not going to be a big help. The average player can't hit his wedge within 8-10 yards of his desired ditance consistantly but think he can grab a more lofted wedge and be golden. Since they are usually flippers who make less than desireable contact with a high trajectory anyway it seems silly to add a more lofted club.

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64 degrees wedges aren't designed for full swings . I like mine for around the green in short thick rough . You can really focus on accelerating through the shot knowing the loft will keep the distance and run out to a minimum

Tm sldr 460 with diamana bb x flex
Tm sldr 3 wood speeder s
Ping i25 19 deg hybrid tfc stiff
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[quote name='Eph610Power' timestamp='1326600721' post='4086509']
So for those using a 64 (or even a 62), are you using it in sand traps and if so, what's the bounce?
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I've used a 54/64 combo for years. My 64 has 7' of bounce and is mostly used out of greenside bunkers with not a lot of green to work with, along with other select shots. My 54 has 11' of bounce and I control the distance on both by choking down to different levels, along with 3/4 swings and etc...

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Callaway FT Tour 18* w/Project X 5.5 Graphite
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Love mine… I used a 58/60 for years but added the 64 and it's been a gem around the green and in bunkers. I had to problems opening up my 60 but I just really like the 64.

Bag: Ping Hoofer Camo / Moonlite Driver: TM SIM2 Max 9* Hybrids: Cobra RAD Speed 19* & 25* Irons: Wishon Sterling SL 6-SW Wedge: KZG Forged TRS Grind 60* Putter: SGC WB Northwood Lovingly built by: Dan's Custom Golf

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I have used one in past and they are phenomenal....you can do things with em that are impossible with anything else...wedges are my strength....but it takes out a longer club in my bag and I already have alot of wedges so I just use a 60 deg....

In nasty short sided situation....I hit shots with 64 that no way would I have been able to do...even with a 60 deg......you do have to make good contact though....If you aren't a solid striker a 64 can get you in alot of trouble as well....few shots I missed put me in bad spots......more loft means you have to be more perfect...

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I decided that I was becoming too dependent on the SM2 64 so I am sticking with the 52, 56, 60 this year and doing more open face shots with the 60. That also let's me keep a bag with both a 7W and a 5 iron. Next year I'll let the 64 back in on certain courses. It is an amazing club, so versatile... when hitting from green area rough and over a sand trap to a short sided pin (etc), there is simply nothing more magical. I actually miss it, but getting back to creativity with the 60 makes the overall bag better.

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MODUS 120 S +3/4, D3-D5

SM8 Raw 52 F-12, 56 V,  & 60 V

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  • 1 year later...
  • 4 years later...

Almost 8 years after Golf Digest promotes the 64 they then publish this... Why amateurs should stop carrying a 64-degree wedge - Golf Digest

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Mizuno CLK 22* & 25* - Tensei CK Blue 70S

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I feel like the two golf digest articles aren't mutually exclusive. The first one measured pitches from around the green and the second measured full swings. It seems accurate to me that a 64* wedge could be better close to the green, but worse from further away than a 58*. I feel like the article is saying too many ams are trying to hit their 64* wedges from too far away and instead should be hitting their sandwedge.

 

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I consider myself a decent wedge player, I gave one a try a few years ago and it didn't do me any favors, that being said I can see how it would be a great greenside club for those who have certain weaknesses in their game, or play super fast tour level greens, like Phil. If you have confidence using another wedge around the green hitting soft shots then don't bother, but if that shot is elusive to you you might give one a try, you can really hit some cool shots with these clubs, but you can hit some real clunkers as well. It's a specialty club for very specific shots in my opinion.

Personally I would rather have a more versatile wedge with some heel grind that you can open up for that rare shot when I need to hit it really high, but for those who generally hit their wedges with a low trajectory it might be more valuable. Phil is an exception, he spends hours a week just working on his short game, and I am sure has some very specific task for that club that fit his game.

 

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I use a TM Hi Toe 64 bent to 62. My next wedge is 55 degrees.

I use the 64 for almost all greenside shots including bunkers. My home course has fast smooth greens but spongy & grainy fringes. I find it too unpredictable to bump it through the fringe, so I almost always carry it to the green surface.

The TM hi toe has a high COG, so even with that much loft I can also hit low spinning darts with it. I almost always address the ball with it set opened up to varying degrees depending on the shot. It pops the ball out of the thick Bermuda rough with ease.

It's a great and very useful tool, but you do have to become accustomed and skilled with it.

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Ping G410 LST - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Kasco K2K 33 - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
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I agree with you. They didn't quite come out and say it as clearly as you did though.

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Mizuno CLK 22* & 25* - Tensei CK Blue 70S

Mizuno 919 HMP 5i-PW - Recoil 95 F4, Mizuno T22 54 & 58 - Recoil 95 F4

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I've never met a 64 I didn't like

Vokey SM2 64.07

Ping Tour W (heel and trailing edge wrx grinds)

Cally PM Grind

TM Hi Toe

All amazing. Great around my course with tiny, sloped greens, and deeeeeep bunkers

 

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Ping G400 3w 15.1* GD AD IZ 5x

Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x 

Ping G425 4h 22* Blueboard HY 80x

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They were using 56* wedges back in the 50s and 60s when green speeds were what, 6 or 7 on the stimp? HUNDO P I'm using a 64* when tournament greens around here are in the 12 range.

 

Seriously though it's been an awesome addition, I use 47-52-58-64 and the 64 is only used for short shots in deeper rough around the greens. It's really freed up my iron swings because being short sided isn't a big deal anymore.

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