My Shot: Steve Williams (Golf Digest interview)

[redfirebird08]

[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1433282499' post='11677462']
Again, I doubt Tiger did PEDs. But there is the Gallea connection. I just don't like Steve saying "For sure Tiger didn't do them" when arguably the biggest sports scandal in the 21st century happened for years right under his nose.
[/quote]

Arguably...I think the FIFA scandal that's blowing up right now is going to be a lot bigger deal than Tiger's sex scandal (which is really a joke in comparison to massive corruption).

[Holy Moses]

[quote name='redfirebird08' timestamp='1433282684' post='11677480'][quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1433282499' post='11677462']
Again, I doubt Tiger did PEDs. But there is the Gallea connection. I just don't like Steve saying "For sure Tiger didn't do them" when arguably the biggest sports scandal in the 21st century happened for years right under his nose.
[/quote]

Arguably...I think the FIFA scandal that's blowing up right now is going to be a lot bigger deal than Tiger's sex scandal (which is really a joke in comparison to massive corruption).[/quote]

Yes, that will be bigger. Same for Lance Armstrong. Point is, it was a huge scandal that Tiger's best man missed.

[nbg352]

[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1433281664' post='11677362']
You can't know if you aren't around the guy during all the times when he would have taken PEDs. Tiger hid his infidelities from Hank and Steve. They all claim they had no idea about his girls. Then it's also possible he hid PED use too.
[/quote]
Sigggghhhhhh............

[MinionGolf]

Same guy who didn't know Tiger was sleeping with over 20 different women...hmmmm

[redfirebird08]

[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1433283113' post='11677522']

Yes, that will be bigger. Same for Lance Armstrong. Point is, it was a huge scandal that Tiger's best man missed.
[/quote]

Yes, I agree. I would think it's easier to catch the guy meeting up for romantic affairs than to catch him with performance enhancing drugs. It's not in Stevie's or Hank's best interest to throw Woods under the bus on this particular issue. Makes [b]their[/b] career look worse. Hank is real big on bragging about all of the wins while he taught Tiger.

[KrazyTrain18]

Great article, I liked the comments about Koepka, guy is an extraordinary ball striker.

[AztecGold]

Tiger worked slavishly in the gym...lifted weights..and gained upper body muscle.

Duh...did you take a look at Rory now?

Does he use PEDS?

Haters (fools ) give it a rest.....

[QuigleyDU]

[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1433283246' post='11677532']
[quote name='Holy Moses' timestamp='1433281664' post='11677362']
You can't know if you aren't around the guy during all the times when he would have taken PEDs. Tiger hid his infidelities from Hank and Steve. They all claim they had no idea about his girls. Then it's also possible he hid PED use too.
[/quote]
Sigggghhhhhh............
[/quote]

great read, both these post are pointless, and unhelpful.

[nbg352]

Moses knew what he was doing when he brought it up..........

[Holy Moses]

"I'm a clean-break guy, too. Since I retired from caddieing, it's been like starting a completely new and interesting life."

Yep, clean break!

[Emthree]

Look at the size of the log he's carrying on the 2nd page ......

[Holy Moses]

[quote name='nbg352' timestamp='1433284478' post='11677644']Moses knew what he was doing when he brought it up..........[/quote]

Thank you omniscient motive knower. The point about Tiger and PEDs is entirely germane to the article. This isn't coming from nowhere.

[kemau]

show me where the pre-order of this guy's book is....would not put it down! great insight for quite a run on several hall of game bags

[AC^]

He was way more open (and less bitter) than I expected him to be. Nice to read his positive comments re: Tiger as well.

[flip flappy]

Great article! I like the perspective he gives. Pretty neat where he was talking about the first good player he caddied for, Peter Thomson, and how he never cursed or lost his temper. Then saying Matt Kuchar is like that and we need more players like him.

[bscinstnct]

[quote name='BoogieThumper' timestamp='1433255142' post='11674002']
[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1433211864' post='11671548']
"TIGER RECEIVED a lot of threats you never heard about—on an almost weekly basis—for years. The PGA Tour people provided security, and it wasn't unusual for one of them to apprise me of some phone call or letter that had come in. "

So much for those who said

The threats to TW were

"BS"
[/quote]I was thinking the same thing, but they are gonna say Tiger or Nike paid Stevie to say that in the interview. And paid the OP to post it here so that we all could see it. Apparently TW is all over these boards in his spare time.
[/quote]

They can "say"

But now *their words*, those who said,

TW did not demonstrate

The highest character, accomplishment under levels of significant stress/threat in the face of

Ignorance and, well, the worst garbage,


are

*Meaningless.*

[mosesgolf]

That was a very good read. Ah the old school Golf Digest is back.

[thesamwise]

[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1433295856' post='11678806']
[quote name='BoogieThumper' timestamp='1433255142' post='11674002']
[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1433211864' post='11671548']
"TIGER RECEIVED a lot of threats you never heard about—on an almost weekly basis—for years. The PGA Tour people provided security, and it wasn't unusual for one of them to apprise me of some phone call or letter that had come in. "

So much for those who said

The threats to TW were

"BS"
[/quote]I was thinking the same thing, but they are gonna say Tiger or Nike paid Stevie to say that in the interview. And paid the OP to post it here so that we all could see it. Apparently TW is all over these boards in his spare time.
[/quote]

They can "say"

But now *their words*, those who said,

TW did not demonstrate

The highest character, accomplishment under levels of significant stress/threat in the face of

Ignorance and, well, the worst garbage,


are

*Meaningless.*
[/quote]

A sonnet has 14 lines and a haiku 3. Are you creating a new form here, Pinsky?

[rukahs]

he is just incapable of writing in paragraphs, poor child.

[Barnum]

[i][color=#333333]On the course, the sickening click of bones rubbing together as he walked made me queasy.[/color][/i]

He could really hear that ?

[kemau]

[quote name='Barnum' timestamp='1433325349' post='11680216']
[i][color=#333333]On the course, the sickening click of bones rubbing together as he walked made me queasy.[/color][/i]

He could really hear that ?
[/quote]

tiger's a drama queen with all of his faking to gain sympathy

[hogans71]

[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1433313242' post='11680002']
That was a very good read. Ah the old school Golf Digest is back.
[/quote]

Don't hold your breath..

[SixtySomePing]

I used to go to the Memorial Tournament every year. I always went to the practice rounds and when Tiger was still with Stevie, if you would get there early enough (and maybe he still does) you knew that Tiger would go our for a practice round right after sunrise. One year I got there super early to walk the course and Tiger and Steve were just staring out, so I followed them for the entire practice round. It was one of the coolest golf experiences I've ever had. I never said a word of course, just listened and watched. I got to see some fabulous shots, and hear their conversation. Tiger was always business, and I felt like I learned a lot. At first it was just the three of us but of course eventually other people came along as well. I guess I felt later like maybe he was glad I didn't take any pics, ask for an autograph, or say anything, but in reality he probably didn't know I was there Anyway, it was a very enjoyable experience. At times he would hit two or three balls from a same location differently, or putt from three or four places on the green, just stuff you don't see on TV. But Steve was very impressive as a caddy, he was like a workhorse, walking off distances, and always writing down stuff, and studying things, so professional.

[puttingmatt]

[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1433328483' post='11680286']
[quote name='Barnum' timestamp='1433325349' post='11680216']
[i][color=#333333]On the course, the sickening click of bones rubbing together as he walked made me queasy.[/color][/i]

He could really hear that ?
[/quote]

tiger's a drama queen with all of his faking to gain sympathy
[/quote]

Sarcasm ?

[kemau]

[quote name='puttingmatt' timestamp='1433351326' post='11682620']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1433328483' post='11680286']
[quote name='Barnum' timestamp='1433325349' post='11680216']
[i][color=#333333]On the course, the sickening click of bones rubbing together as he walked made me queasy.[/color][/i]

He could really hear that ?
[/quote]

tiger's a drama queen with all of his faking to gain sympathy
[/quote]

Sarcasm ?
[/quote]

indeed

[tbowles411]

[quote name='hogans71' timestamp='1433345068' post='11681826']
[quote name='mosesgolf' timestamp='1433313242' post='11680002']
That was a very good read. Ah the old school Golf Digest is back.
[/quote]

Don't hold your breath..
[/quote]
THAT'S clearly not the case.

[tbowles411]

Good read actually. I didn't really like or dislike Stevie during or after the split; but he did seem ungrateful afterwards and said so, but at least we have his insights and him giving us insight and the dispelling of a lot of untruths out there.

[mwkbmw]

[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1433295856' post='11678806']
[quote name='BoogieThumper' timestamp='1433255142' post='11674002']
[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1433211864' post='11671548']
"TIGER RECEIVED a lot of threats you never heard about—on an almost weekly basis—for years. The PGA Tour people provided security, and it wasn't unusual for one of them to apprise me of some phone call or letter that had come in. "

So much for those who said

The threats to TW were

"BS"
[/quote]I was thinking the same thing, but they are gonna say Tiger or Nike paid Stevie to say that in the interview. And paid the OP to post it here so that we all could see it. Apparently TW is all over these boards in his spare time.
[/quote]

They can "say"

But now *their words*, those who said,

TW did not demonstrate

The highest character, accomplishment under levels of significant stress/threat in the face of

Ignorance and, well, the worst garbage,


are

*Meaningless.*
[/quote]

OK, I admit it. Tiger and Earl are bigger heroes than Caitlyn Jenner.

[bscinstnct]

"TIGER RECEIVED a lot of threats you never heard about—on an almost weekly basis—for years. The PGA Tour people provided security, and it wasn't unusual for one of them to apprise me of some phone call or letter that had come in. "

 

So much for those who said

 

The threats to TW were

 

"BS"

I was thinking the same thing, but they are gonna say Tiger or Nike paid Stevie to say that in the interview. And paid the OP to post it here so that we all could see it. Apparently TW is all over these boards in his spare time.

 

They can "say"

 

But now *their words*, those who said,

 

TW did not demonstrate

 

The highest character, accomplishment under levels of significant stress/threat in the face of

 

Ignorance and, well, the worst garbage,

 

 

are

 

*Meaningless.*

 

OK, I admit it. Tiger and Earl are bigger heroes than Caitlyn Jenner.

 

[rlynham]

Definitely an interesting read.