Hagestad anchoring??

[kevin2]

They should have done away with long putters, for one thing, and made it so crystal clear about anchoring that there would be no golfers stretching the rules like this.

 

I think the rule was implemented poorly. As a result, things like this were made possible.

[cardoustie]

You guys are out there

 

How can you tell on TV if a guy is holding the grip 1/2" off his chest or not

 

Adam Scott should putt this way. He hits it as good as Sergio

 

I think I will pull out one of my older long putters and give it a whirl as well

 

And someone saying 48" length max ... I'm 6'2" and my long putter was about 45" only

[HighSpeedScene]

You guys are out there

 

How can you tell on TV if a guy is holding the grip 1/2" off his chest or not

 

Adam Scott should putt this way. He hits it as good as Sergio

 

I think I will pull out one of my older long putters and give it a whirl as well

 

And someone saying 48" length max ... I'm 6'2" and my long putter was about 45" only

 

Braggart!

 

Signed, short guy

[ws6]

You guys are out there

 

How can you tell on TV if a guy is holding the grip 1/2" off his chest or not

 

Adam Scott should putt this way. He hits it as good as Sergio

 

I think I will pull out one of my older long putters and give it a whirl as well

 

And someone saying 48" length max ... I'm 6'2" and my long putter was about 45" only

 

Before Scott switched to the short putter, he initially said he was going to shorten his long putter a few inches and use the long putter,but unanchored style.

[JJ17]

Top hand, inside wrist repeatedly anchored against body = cheating. Used to solve inability to actually put like they do i golf.

 

This will be my first and last post here.

 

Stew does not cheat or anchor the putter. How do I know? I've played with and against him the last few years in MGA events. He holds it away from his body about an inch. The same as Langer. Just like the Australian writer who pissed sour grapes, you're both going off assumptions. You weren't there. It's been checked and questioned over and over again and every time it's ruled LEGAL.

 

Good luck in your Sr. Club championship.

 

 

[cardoustie]

Top hand, inside wrist repeatedly anchored against body = cheating. Used to solve inability to actually put like they do i golf.

 

This will be my first and last post here.

 

Stew does not cheat or anchor the putter. How do I know? I've played with and against him the last few years in MGA events. He holds it away from his body about an inch. The same as Langer. Just like the Australian writer who pissed sour grapes, you're both going off assumptions. You weren't there. It's been checked and questioned over and over again and every time it's ruled LEGAL.

 

Good luck in your Sr. Club championship.

 

I'm on your side JJ17

 

Stay in the community and keep posting

[Vindog]

Outlier what is the resolution you are hoping for?

 

Well, we'll just have to wait the 60 days or whatever when he posts the video of him repeatedly confronting the guy who he is convinced is anchoring.

[Lodestone]

I love it that guys are putting like this because it pisses off the guys who wanted the stupid rule in the first place.

 

I wish more players would use this approach.

[Barfolomew]

Wow how many times I gotta say you don't need your chest to anchor long putters just a rigid top hand is good enough, I have one its easy!

 

So easy to swing around a fix point on your chest or right in front of it !!!!

 

Rule makers take your meds.....

[Golfjack]

Well technically if you just stiffen up your arms on a regular putter pretty much you are anchoring with your arms. I just tend to forget and swing with my arms sometimes instead of the shoulders causing a push. I'm not sure why more pros aren't doing it if it gives them a true edge. Each putt costs them thousands of dollars basically.

[Lodestone]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

[DJ Aus]

For the cricket fans here it is a lot like trying to tell if a bowler bends his arm more than 15 degrees when bowling a doosra - soory for the non - cricket fans but us Aussie have been at the centre of that storm also!

 

The bigger issue I have is the idea of mid am starting at 25, just seems a little young for me especially when Hagestad notes himself that he doesn't have the same work and family pressures that other mid ams have, I understand the desire to keep them engage after the main amateur/college circuit though.

[DJ Aus]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

 

I understand the sentiment as guys like Scott who have a ball striking advantage have had this whittled away by 460cc drivers and low spin off the driver balls but 2 wrongs don't make a right...

[larssonlegend]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

 

I understand the sentiment as guys like Scott who have a ball striking advantage have had this whittled away by 460cc drivers and low spin off the driver balls but 2 wrongs don't make a right...

 

I would have thought that low spin drivers have helped guys like Scott more than hindered. They can bomb it and keep it straighter than ever before.

[DJ Aus]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

 

I understand the sentiment as guys like Scott who have a ball striking advantage have had this whittled away by 460cc drivers and low spin off the driver balls but 2 wrongs don't make a right...

 

I would have thought that low spin drivers have helped guys like Scott more than hindered. They can bomb it and keep it straighter than ever before.

 

Scott can hit a 250cc head pure where as others who don't hit it quite so good might struggle. The big head is an equalizer imo.

[br61]

Top hand, inside wrist repeatedly anchored against body = cheating. Used to solve inability to actually put like they do i golf.

 

This will be my first and last post here.

 

Stew does not cheat or anchor the putter. How do I know? I've played with and against him the last few years in MGA events. He holds it away from his body about an inch. The same as Langer. Just like the Australian writer who pissed sour grapes, you're both going off assumptions. You weren't there. It's been checked and questioned over and over again and every time it's ruled LEGAL.

 

Good luck in your Sr. Club championship.

 

Love this post. Hang around.

 

I use my 46" putter in many competitions, no one ever questions me. I lobbed 2" off my 48" putter so I can use a non-anchoring stroke.

 

I believe USGA implemented this rule to increase the forum traffic. I still think USGA's non-anchoring rule is an idiotic rule in the first place. Just my opinion.

[bladehunter]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

 

I understand the sentiment as guys like Scott who have a ball striking advantage have had this whittled away by 460cc drivers and low spin off the driver balls but 2 wrongs don't make a right...

 

I would have thought that low spin drivers have helped guys like Scott more than hindered. They can bomb it and keep it straighter than ever before.

 

 

Nope. Guys like Scott would've been super long with any driver. Low spin forgiving drivers allow the mediocre driver to catch up to Scott type ball strikers. Forgiveness does not favor the ball striker. Never will

[larssonlegend]

I think anything that makes putting easier is good. I hate seeing great ball strikers falling out of contention because they can't putt.

 

I understand the sentiment as guys like Scott who have a ball striking advantage have had this whittled away by 460cc drivers and low spin off the driver balls but 2 wrongs don't make a right...

 

I would have thought that low spin drivers have helped guys like Scott more than hindered. They can bomb it and keep it straighter than ever before.

 

 

Nope. Guys like Scott would've been super long with any driver. Low spin forgiving drivers allow the mediocre driver to catch up to Scott type ball strikers. Forgiveness does not favor the ball striker. Never will

 

My point is his , he had length advantage with any driver but that used to be negated a little with the unforgiving drivers, even the best ball striker weren't immune to the small sweet spots of yester year. Modern tech has helped them just as much as it has with the short hitter. Hence why very few short hitters win these days.

[cardoustie]

Here is my personal take ... I used a long putter for 2 or 3 seasons. Yes Natalie and Scotty Big Sur

 

I was awesome inside 10 feet. Dodgy on Texas wedge shots and long lag putting .. which is why anchoring should not have been banned. Anyways ....

 

Going to the pencil grip with right hand made my Texas and lag putting awesome again with a short putter (same motion really), but still not as good from inside 10 feet

 

Right now I am having an internal debate to drop my 50* GW and play with two putters as an experiment, might be the best of both worlds. The best part is I have two Yes Natalie center shafted putters, one is 45" and one is 34.5" (and with the 400g head it is nice and heavy)

[Lodestone]

Here is my personal take ... I used a long putter for 2 or 3 seasons. Yes Natalie and Scotty Big Sur

 

I was awesome inside 10 feet. Dodgy on Texas wedge shots and long lag putting .. which is why anchoring should not have been banned. Anyways ....

 

Going to the pencil grip with right hand made my Texas and lag putting awesome again with a short putter (same motion really), but still not as good from inside 10 feet

 

Right now I am having an internal debate to drop my 50* GW and play with two putters as an experiment, might be the best of both worlds. The best part is I have two Yes Natalie center shafted putters, one is 45" and one is 34.5" (and with the 400g head it is nice and heavy)

 

I never spent very much time with the long anchored putter, but what time I did spend was very consistent with what you describe. Better close in, but not so good with the longer putter. My inclination is that with some practice, I'd probably overcome the distance issue.

Every time I've come close to making some drastic change in my putting approach, I get hot with the putter. Hence, despite buying many, I'm putting with a Rossie II I bought 20-some years ago.

I agree with you that it should never have been banned. For many reasons.

[Hawkeye77]

Top hand, inside wrist repeatedly anchored against body = cheating. Used to solve inability to actually put like they do i golf.

 

This will be my first and last post here.

 

Stew does not cheat or anchor the putter. How do I know? I've played with and against him the last few years in MGA events. He holds it away from his body about an inch. The same as Langer. Just like the Australian writer who pissed sour grapes, you're both going off assumptions. You weren't there. It's been checked and questioned over and over again and every time it's ruled LEGAL.

 

Good luck in your Sr. Club championship.

 

Best post I've seen in awhile!

 

And will be forgotten or completely disregarded within about 10 more posts unfortunately.

 

Facts always seem to put some folks off around here.

[rboeckel]

Who cares about anchoring anyways. None of the guys that anchor are ever top putters anyways, I don't see how its an advantage

[2putttom]

Who cares about anchoring anyways. None of the guys that anchor are ever top putters anyways, I don't see how its an advantage

Bwaaa haaa haaa .. :cheesy:

[widow-maker]

I don't know that the USGA should have ever even gotten involved with this in the first place, but they sure did muck it up once they did. If the idea was to ban anchoring then why not just say your putter can't be longer than 36 inches (or whatever they choose that definitely takes anchoring out of the question). Instead they come up with something ambiguous and make a mockery of what they were trying to accomplish. Year after year we just shake our heads from what comes out of that organization.

[Shilgy]

I don't know that the USGA should have ever even gotten involved with this in the first place, but they sure did muck it up once they did. If the idea was to ban anchoring then why not just say your putter can't be longer than 36 inches (or whatever they choose that definitely takes anchoring out of the question). Instead they come up with something ambiguous and make a mockery of what they were trying to accomplish. Year after year we just shake our heads from what comes out of that organization.

Maybe because they were trying to ban anchoring and not the length of clubs? 36" would be way to short for some players. Langer-this guy-McCarron are NOT anchoring. Do they touch their shirt? Yes but that is not anchoring. I have a couple buddies that are still using the long putter but do not anchor. Looks ungainly to me but it works for them. The USGA probably was hoping the brooms would be abandoned without anchoring being allowed but it would be difficult to go back now and ban the longer lengths. If all they wanted to stop-as some have said-was the "look" of the long putters they certainly failed miserably. If they felt-as they stated-that anchoring was advantage they stopped the ability to do so.

[2putttom]

I don't know that the USGA should have ever even gotten involved with this in the first place, but they sure did muck it up once they did. If the idea was to ban anchoring then why not just say your putter can't be longer than 36 inches (or whatever they choose that definitely takes anchoring out of the question). Instead they come up with something ambiguous and make a mockery of what they were trying to accomplish. Year after year we just shake our heads from what comes out of that organization.

Maybe because they were trying to ban anchoring and not the length of clubs? 36" would be way to short for some players. Langer-this guy-McCarron are NOT anchoring. Do they touch their shirt? Yes but that is not anchoring. I have a couple buddies that are still using the long putter but do not anchor. Looks ungainly to me but it works for them. The USGA probably was hoping the brooms would be abandoned without anchoring being allowed but it would be difficult to go back now and ban the longer lengths. If all they wanted to stop-as some have said-was the "look" of the long putters they certainly failed miserably. If they felt-as they stated-that anchoring was advantage they stopped the ability to do so.

"The USGA probably was hoping the brooms would be abandoned without anchoring being allowed but it would be difficult to go back now and ban the longer lengths." interesting Shilgy

[Shilgy]

I don't know that the USGA should have ever even gotten involved with this in the first place, but they sure did muck it up once they did. If the idea was to ban anchoring then why not just say your putter can't be longer than 36 inches (or whatever they choose that definitely takes anchoring out of the question). Instead they come up with something ambiguous and make a mockery of what they were trying to accomplish. Year after year we just shake our heads from what comes out of that organization.

Maybe because they were trying to ban anchoring and not the length of clubs? 36" would be way to short for some players. Langer-this guy-McCarron are NOT anchoring. Do they touch their shirt? Yes but that is not anchoring. I have a couple buddies that are still using the long putter but do not anchor. Looks ungainly to me but it works for them. The USGA probably was hoping the brooms would be abandoned without anchoring being allowed but it would be difficult to go back now and ban the longer lengths. If all they wanted to stop-as some have said-was the "look" of the long putters they certainly failed miserably. If they felt-as they stated-that anchoring was advantage they stopped the ability to do so.

"The USGA probably was hoping the brooms would be abandoned without anchoring being allowed but it would be difficult to go back now and ban the longer lengths." interesting Shilgy

Just my guess. They did not want to get sued by manufacturers so banned the method-not the equipment. Some have moved on to short putter with success-like Adam Scott- and some like Langer and my buddies kept the broomstick but moved that top hand away from touching their chest. Another friend used to belly putt and kept the putter but moved it away as well. No help-he is still a poor putter.

[BrandonFolk]

Top hand, inside wrist repeatedly anchored against body = cheating. Used to solve inability to actually put like they do i golf.

 

This will be my first and last post here.

 

Stew does not cheat or anchor the putter. How do I know? I've played with and against him the last few years in MGA events. He holds it away from his body about an inch. The same as Langer. Just like the Australian writer who pissed sour grapes, you're both going off assumptions. You weren't there. It's been checked and questioned over and over again and every time it's ruled LEGAL.

 

Good luck in your Sr. Club championship.

 

Great first post! Stick around it's worth it.

[Vindog]

I don't know that the USGA should have ever even gotten involved with this in the first place, but they sure did muck it up once they did. If the idea was to ban anchoring then why not just say your putter can't be longer than 36 inches (or whatever they choose that definitely takes anchoring out of the question). Instead they come up with something ambiguous and make a mockery of what they were trying to accomplish. Year after year we just shake our heads from what comes out of that organization.

 

I can easily anchor a 36" putter. Why beat around the bush?

 

If the Idea was to ban anchoring then just ban ancoring, and....word on the street is that it was the R&A that was pushing for this, more than the USGA