New $500 Flightscope personal launch monitor (MERGED)

[drewtaylor21]

I think it depends on how you're planning to use the device. For me personally, I like to tinker and try new equipment but I don't have convenient access to TrackMan/Flightscope to get numbers. I also like to test equipment on the course and not indoors, so I often post up on a hole when my home course is empty and hit a bunch of balls.

 

I'd like to get numbers when I do this type of testing, so in theory this seems like a great device to use as long as it's accurate compared to TM/FS. I don't mind the need for stickers to get spin, as I can always keep a set of balls dedicated to this purpose.

 

Maybe my needs are unique, but it seems perfect and reasonably priced for that type of thing.

 

Fair enough! I could see that being beneficial and not outrageously priced for that purpose. As long as your course is cool with you hitting a bunch of golf balls on one hole, then have at it!

 

I guess to me it just seems like such a niche market in what is already a niche market! If they only included spin axis they could open up so many more possibilities that the indoor/sim world has been hoping for in a personal launch monitor....

[b.helts]

And don't be that guy that leaves a 1'x1' divot in the middle of the fairway at 95 yards after hitting 20 wedges!

 

 

[matchavez]

I don't understand why people are interested in using the Mevo outside at a range..? Do your driving ranges not use limited flight balls?

 

Several reasons. It isn't to get total distance as an accurate measure. It's going to be short, but I can still get a lot out of it.

 

#1 - Synchronised slow-motion video

#2 - Launch angle

#3 - Swing speed

#4 - Clubhead speed

 

Most current meters will give you 3 & 4. Some give you 2. But they don't record them in slow-motion, viewable on a phone immediately.

 

Even if the three numbers are just indicative and accurate relative to itself, that information along with video makes it worthwhile outdoors at a range.

[jll62]

And don't be that guy that leaves a 1'x1' divot in the middle of the fairway at 95 yards after hitting 20 wedges!

 

If you're hitting 20 wedges from one spot, you're doing it wrong. ;)

 

But I'm primarily talking about driver testing for myself.

[appilags]

Looks like you can edit the name of each club but cant change the loft. This would confirm that it measures and does not calculate.

agree. This is simply tagging to record a history of shots with each given club.

[appilags]

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

 

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

 

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

 

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

 

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

 

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

I am intending to purchase this device with similar goals in mind.

I'm not sure why so many folks are worried about stickers though. At $25 for 1000 stickers, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to put a sticker on each ball I hit at the range.

[appilags]

Mods, sorry about the multiple posts! Phone kept telling me I had posting errors.

 

Mods, sorry about the multiple posts! Phone kept telling me I had posting errors.

[matchavez]

And look at it another way... you may or may not believe a shop meter, but *relative* shot to shot, it can help.

[BigSky59]

That thing looks like it is the size of a business card

[Hondabuff]

Just called FS and they said all Mevos are done and shipping out this week.

[BrandonFolk]

So, I am just sitting here dreaming about this Mevo and listening to how people may use it, and it got me thinking. Now I don't know what the setup is like if this thing were to move, but since I use a ClicGear push cart could I fabricate a mount to hold the Mevo on the front of my cart pretty close to the ground and always park my cart 8-10 feet behind my ball and have the Mevo record every shot for a round?

[masamitsu]

That would be cool to see. Please post when/if you do.

[dlee723]

So, I am just sitting here dreaming about this Mevo and listening to how people may use it, and it got me thinking. Now I don't know what the setup is like if this thing were to move, but since I use a ClicGear push cart could I fabricate a mount to hold the Mevo on the front of my cart pretty close to the ground and always park my cart 8-10 feet behind my ball and have the Mevo record every shot for a round?

 

I could be wrong but I thought Doppler units need to be on the same level as the ball. So you would need a retractable arm that goes down and up

[Golf Ninja]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

[xjohnx]

They uploaded a setup video today:

 

[JStang]

I just want this to give an accurate distance measurement without the dots for range use. I'd really like to be able to dial in my distances with my irons and wedges

 

At the end of the day, you're still hitting range balls which will give you different distances and flight than what you game. Unless you're at one of those "fancy" ranges with ProV1's.

[postfire888]

They uploaded a setup video today:

 

 

App is up and setup

Video on YouTube . Hopefully it's a sign the first units are being shipped soon!

[somaplr]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

 

Not close. You can have someone spinning a driver at 4500 rpm and someone spinning it at 2000rpm with all other data being very very close and distances would be 25+ yards off

[threeput4par]

About time they made a LM with these capabilities at a reasonable price..

[Golf Ninja]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

 

Not close. You can have someone spinning a driver at 4500 rpm and someone spinning it at 2000rpm with all other data being very very close and distances would be 25+ yards off

 

Yeah, makes sense. Well, if they are able to get spin without a sticker that in general is say, always going to be +\- 10-15% margin of error, better with the sticker, then for my purposes it will be "good enough".

 

If you are indoors with a trackman, they calculate carry too don't they? Well, how do they do it differently than the mevo (indoors), it isn't measuring past the net or wall. It knows balls speed, spin, launch angle, spin axis and side spin. If the mevo works, it knows the same thing except for spin axis and side spin. It can then calculate a reasonably accurate "zeroed" (no side spin, zero spin axis) carry yardage just like the Trackman, right? The question then becomes how off are we without a sticker in the spin measurement. Are we within 10-15% accuracy? Etc etc

 

This all becomes a moot point once we start seeing side by side, with/without sticker, indoor/outdoor, trackman vs Mevo data. I understand this isn't a $25k device but we are going to be able to see just how useful this is gonna be to dial in carry yardages or averages.

 

I have also been thinking about a discussion I had with a Cobra Rep years ago when he had his trackman to fit me. I asked him about the spin numbers with range balls vs my pro v's and he said there is a setting to compensate for the differences between the too. I still wonder about that.

[Hondabuff]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

 

Not close. You can have someone spinning a driver at 4500 rpm and someone spinning it at 2000rpm with all other data being very very close and distances would be 25+ yards off

 

Yeah, makes sense. Well, if they are able to get spin without a sticker that in general is say, always going to be +\- 10-15% margin of error, better with the sticker, then for my purposes it will be "good enough".

 

If you are indoors with a trackman, they calculate carry too don't they? Well, how do they do it differently than the mevo (indoors), it isn't measuring past the net or wall. It knows balls speed, spin, launch angle, spin axis and side spin. If the mevo works, it knows the same thing except for spin axis and side spin. It can then calculate a reasonably accurate "zeroed" (no side spin, zero spin axis) carry yardage just like the Trackman, right? The question then becomes how off are we without a sticker in the spin measurement. Are we within 10-15% accuracy? Etc etc

 

This all becomes a moot point once we start seeing side by side, with/without sticker, indoor/outdoor, trackman vs Mevo data. I understand this isn't a $25k device but we are going to be able to see just how useful this is gonna be to dial in carry yardages or averages.

 

I have also been thinking about a discussion I had with a Cobra Rep years ago when he had his trackman to fit me. I asked him about the spin numbers with range balls vs my pro v's and he said there is a setting to compensate for the differences between the too. I still wonder about that.

 

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

[trumb1mj1]

So people have them in hand now. Where are the reviews Andrew Park???!

[Dixie Flatline]

I don't understand why people are interested in using the Mevo outside at a range..? Do your driving ranges not use limited flight balls?

 

Both ranges I go to use full flight. That being said, if you don't use the stickers and it only measures the initial launch, will it even notice a difference between a full flight and limited flight?

 

It should. When we had limited flight balls at our range, they had slower ball speeds. I'd think it would pick that up.

[Dixie Flatline]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

 

Not close. You can have someone spinning a driver at 4500 rpm and someone spinning it at 2000rpm with all other data being very very close and distances would be 25+ yards off

 

Yeah, makes sense. Well, if they are able to get spin without a sticker that in general is say, always going to be +\- 10-15% margin of error, better with the sticker, then for my purposes it will be "good enough".

 

If you are indoors with a trackman, they calculate carry too don't they? Well, how do they do it differently than the mevo (indoors), it isn't measuring past the net or wall. It knows balls speed, spin, launch angle, spin axis and side spin. If the mevo works, it knows the same thing except for spin axis and side spin. It can then calculate a reasonably accurate "zeroed" (no side spin, zero spin axis) carry yardage just like the Trackman, right? The question then becomes how off are we without a sticker in the spin measurement. Are we within 10-15% accuracy? Etc etc

 

This all becomes a moot point once we start seeing side by side, with/without sticker, indoor/outdoor, trackman vs Mevo data. I understand this isn't a $25k device but we are going to be able to see just how useful this is gonna be to dial in carry yardages or averages.

 

I have also been thinking about a discussion I had with a Cobra Rep years ago when he had his trackman to fit me. I asked him about the spin numbers with range balls vs my pro v's and he said there is a setting to compensate for the differences between the too. I still wonder about that.

 

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

Complete ball data for under $1000? I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Like I'd literally pick up the phone right now.

[games]

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

To guess pricing, you start working backwards based on what is already in the market.

What is the base SkyTrak with driving range simulation? $1,600? Would the FS equivalent be MEVO + spin axis + Skills app? (Assuming the Skills app can function with side spin, and not require clubhead tracking.)

 

Based on the above, I would think lateral spin / dispersion runs closer to $750 or $800.

Then, the next level is adding course simulation and/or clubhead tracking (club attachment and/or hitting mat).

[Golf Ninja]

If you just knew ball speed, launch angle and altitude - how close could you get to actual "zeroed" carry yardage without actually knowing spin rate? Reference parameters: spin axis 0*, no wind, using your gamer balls on the golf course. Margin of error in calculated carry yardage? I guess you'd have to stick an "average" spin rate for the club used into the equation wouldn't you? Within 5 yards? 10? Etc etc

 

Not close. You can have someone spinning a driver at 4500 rpm and someone spinning it at 2000rpm with all other data being very very close and distances would be 25+ yards off

 

Yeah, makes sense. Well, if they are able to get spin without a sticker that in general is say, always going to be +\- 10-15% margin of error, better with the sticker, then for my purposes it will be "good enough".

 

If you are indoors with a trackman, they calculate carry too don't they? Well, how do they do it differently than the mevo (indoors), it isn't measuring past the net or wall. It knows balls speed, spin, launch angle, spin axis and side spin. If the mevo works, it knows the same thing except for spin axis and side spin. It can then calculate a reasonably accurate "zeroed" (no side spin, zero spin axis) carry yardage just like the Trackman, right? The question then becomes how off are we without a sticker in the spin measurement. Are we within 10-15% accuracy? Etc etc

 

This all becomes a moot point once we start seeing side by side, with/without sticker, indoor/outdoor, trackman vs Mevo data. I understand this isn't a $25k device but we are going to be able to see just how useful this is gonna be to dial in carry yardages or averages.

 

I have also been thinking about a discussion I had with a Cobra Rep years ago when he had his trackman to fit me. I asked him about the spin numbers with range balls vs my pro v's and he said there is a setting to compensate for the differences between the too. I still wonder about that.

 

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

Yeah maybe, I work with kids so our boosters association is buying and donating this to us. The kids grow like weeds, so their zeroed carry yardages constantly increase. We pay $50-$60 per kid to jump on a trackman to get that info at least once a year on a volunteer basis. This also helps because the guy running the Trackman is a former graduate of our school and is able to make equipment, shaft flex recommendations on the spot. It's a win win situation for both of us. If this device gets us reliable carry yardages alone, it pays for itself. Other uses I am interested in for them would be 1/2, 3/4 shot yardages etc. They all know one speed, 120%. Anyway, I'd like to take this with me and do a side by side with trackman session in the next few weeks. I switched out iron shafts, have some other new clubs that I'd like more info about.

[Hondabuff]

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

To guess pricing, you start working backwards based on what is already in the market.

What is the base SkyTrak with driving range simulation? $1,600? Would the FS equivalent be MEVO + spin axis + Skills app? (Assuming the Skills app can function with side spin, and not require clubhead tracking.)

 

Based on the above, I would think lateral spin / dispersion runs closer to $750 or $800.

Then, the next level is adding course simulation and/or clubhead tracking (club attachment and/or hitting mat).

 

If Flightscope has a scalable product they could overtake the entire launch monitor market. Have the Mevo with a base feature set that you purchase for $500. A few months later you want spin axis. You purchase the licensed feature set that is digitally signed by the serial number of your Mevo and you install the software upgrade. A year later you would like to play the WGT courses then you pay another license fee for the upgrade and repeat the process. A lot of people cant purchase a $2k launch monitor but give them a platform where they can keep upgrading then I think you have a great investment. This is of course only a solution if the Mevo can measure side spin at all.

[Dixie Flatline]

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

To guess pricing, you start working backwards based on what is already in the market.

What is the base SkyTrak with driving range simulation? $1,600? Would the FS equivalent be MEVO + spin axis + Skills app? (Assuming the Skills app can function with side spin, and not require clubhead tracking.)

 

Based on the above, I would think lateral spin / dispersion runs closer to $750 or $800.

Then, the next level is adding course simulation and/or clubhead tracking (club attachment and/or hitting mat).

 

I hear you, but I think sub $1000 is going to be unique. If you can provide reliable ball data for sub $1000, you probably are going to steal all the guys that were willing to pay $1600-$5000 for that data. And you are going to pick up a large number of folks that were settling for ES12 or ES14. And on top of that, there are probably a number of folks like me that haven't dropped the coin on anything because we don't think ES12 or 14 does enough accurately enough, but are hesitant to drop it on Skytrak, especially when it doesn't work as well outside.

[Dixie Flatline]

If they offered side spin axis as a upgrade for say $400, Would you buy it? I think I would.

 

To guess pricing, you start working backwards based on what is already in the market.

What is the base SkyTrak with driving range simulation? $1,600? Would the FS equivalent be MEVO + spin axis + Skills app? (Assuming the Skills app can function with side spin, and not require clubhead tracking.)

 

Based on the above, I would think lateral spin / dispersion runs closer to $750 or $800.

Then, the next level is adding course simulation and/or clubhead tracking (club attachment and/or hitting mat).

 

If Flightscope has a scalable product they could overtake the entire launch monitor market. Have the Mevo with a base feature set that you purchase for $500. A few months later you want spin axis. You purchase the licensed feature set that is digitally signed by the serial number of your Mevo and you install the software upgrade. A year later you would like to play the WGT courses then you pay another license fee for the upgrade and repeat the process. A lot of people cant purchase a $2k launch monitor but give them a platform where they can keep upgrading then I think you have a great investment.

 

I can see this coming. If this hardware can track spin rate in one dimension and launch, then couldn't the same hardware build set on it's side track spin horizontally and horizontal launch? After that, it wouldn't take too much of a genius to combine the two data sets into a 3D flight.

 

Boom. $1k ball data.

[trumb1mj1]

If Flightscope has a scalable product they could overtake the entire launch monitor market. Have the Mevo with a base feature set that you purchase for $500. A few months later you want spin axis. You purchase the licensed feature set that is digitally signed by the serial number of your Mevo and you install the software upgrade. A year later you would like to play the WGT courses then you pay another license fee for the upgrade and repeat the process. A lot of people cant purchase a $2k launch monitor but give them a platform where they can keep upgrading then I think you have a great investment.

 

I think the limitation on spin axis will be hardware related. If the Mevo is measuring spin axis but simply not displaying it... well let's just jailbreak the thing and write our own display app that shows all metrics and displays flight.