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  1. It was written as a handbook for instructors but I guess those that had followed his teaching. I would consider it's a must for students of the golf swing but to be read with a critical mind (Omer seemed to be obsessed with geometry but not 100% up to speed with physics and not knowledgeable about biomechanics). It's a very touch read. Still, there are many concepts and terminologies that I found useful and I still use them when my swing gets out of whack: pressure points and PP alignments so force alignments, tracing the baseline of the plane, hinge actions ....
  2. I switched to Geoff Mangum's puttingzone years ago and never looked back. I guess it puts more emphasis on repeatable rhythmr and tempo and so on distance control.
  3. S&T is descending from MORAD that descends from TGM... and TGM talked about "kinetic chain" well before it was named that way... unfortunately in the rather obscure language of Omer... I can't quote exactly from memory but something like "one component lagging the other from the feet to hands" "Lag Pressure"... So of course there is a "kinetic chain" involved in S&T, the question is do you get more efficient by extending some of the link of the chain in the backswing ? Most week-end golfer I know can recover from that and produce a correct or sequencing in the downswing. S&T is trying to point to a minimum set of move to be more consistent and be long enough. You can have non minimal components if you can handle it, no decent S&T instructor would change that.
  4. You have demonstrated in this thread that you don't know what S&T and you don't want to learn... My instructor is teaching all level and all age groups, up to 90 years old! And the key is to use each person's abilities to their maximum potential, never exceeding their range of motion.
  5. Too bad, the copies on Lynn Blake's forum are gone, I thought I had copy but could not find them.
  6. I am overweight and also find myself out of breath from time to time (my course has a lot of short up and down slopes). However I don't have a good experience riding a cart: hard to keep muscular tonicity, hard to keep focus, not enough time between shots, I tend to speedup/skip my routine and don't have time to "digest" a bad shot.
  7. Darren Hopwood also posts lessons summaries (videos for the student) and pictures. https://www.facebook.com/groups/189596837735091
  8. Really no special flexibility needed, you straighten the back leg and flex the front leg then the hips turn, and just do the opposite for the throught-swing. Better to have the feet/legs angled, not square, not to strain the knee in an unatural way.
  9. Not at all, there is plenty of hip rotation in S&T thanks to the flexing/straightening of the legs, typically 45 degrees turn in the backswing and 90 degrees at finish.
  10. I'm afraid you have been fed with complete misinformation about what S&T is. Did you try with an instructor? S&T is not a pulling motion, the right arm speed is very important, in fact the swing has been categorized (by someone smarter than me ;-)) as TGM Hitting on the Elbow Plane. The legs do participate in the swing and also for speed but more emphasis is put on the left leg. There should not be any pressure on the lower back: S&T promotes the tilt-while-rotating to use the full range of motion of the spine and is not a resistance model (like X-factor) and the flexion-extension of the spine is supposed to happen from the thorax upwards.
  11. A couple of pointers as to what could cause the back pain: - the hip slide in the DS is not towards the target line nor the target but almost parallel to the target line (base of the swing plane to be precise and cover the case of open/close stance) - the spine extends from the thoracic spine up and not from the lumbar spine
  12. The grid is a visual reminder of the swing plane but if you haven't been through it in a lesson that might be a little too abstract to be useful. The first DVD Plummer & Bennett made is like a clinic, it would be useful if you don't have an instructor near you.
  13. It's a feel, so it may be a light bulb for some and a swing wrecker for others.... I prefer the approach where one is told/taught to do it right and leave the feel to the student.
  14. I have both, version 1 is more like a clinic, I like the more compact format. 2.0 goes more in depth in some topics, I find that having both is useful but the underlying message is unchanged.
  15. I love his swing, I have his book and saw some of his videos but in the end I think he described his feels. It would work for some people, depending on their body type or past history in other sports but that's all. Even with a correct pivot some people will have to learn consciously the movement of the arm and hands.
  16. You can move the pelvis forward instead of moving the head backwards.
  17. Shawn recognizes that he rather should be speaking of momentum and inertia, so the "mass" instead of "weight" and no reference to gravity. Still good advice for many though (for clarity of the message I suspect momentum and inertia wouldn't mean much to a good fraction of his pupils).
  18. I'm afraid physics says that as long as the runner does not actually fall down gravity does not bring any work (energy).
  19. > 2. My misses tend to be a hook...not wildly left but more than the natural draw and increasingly left as ballflight progresses.. I figure its when I dont bump enough or quickly enough...?? If this is push-hook (starts right but overdraws) you will make it worse by sliding more as it favors in-to-out. > 3. S&T seems to downplay posture as a fundamental?... My experience is Just like for all other swings I find posture is indeed critical for S&T... You must have hands close to thighs(viewed DTL) at set-up in other words no reaching...another poster on this forum referred to “arms straight” as being more at “45degrees” than the usual “hanging straight down”.... It seems that if I keep my arms hanging close to my thighs at set up, pressing down a bit (per hendrik stenson) it keeps elbows closer and a feeling of connectedness and promotes a better turn ... does this fit with anyone elses experience as a drill? It does feel a bit more stiff and not loose/fluid but I like the more stable feel and results - observations? Any ideas from other S&T ers? > This whole business with fundamentals is a bit overplayed in my opinion (and yes, I'm also doing S&T). They say it's not a fundamental because not everyone needs to have the same posture (as opposite to everyone needs to hit ball-then-turf) but of course you need to find the best posture for your body type and athletic abilities.
  20. > @OlleEriksson said: > I may not understand everything completely but I think I have a fair understanding of how club face angle and swing path causes draws and fades in combination with pulls and pushes. > > What I am wondering is what the general consensus is regarding changing the swing path to shape the shots (produce left and right spin to get draws and fades) vs just changing to a stronger/weaker grip and aiming left or right. It would seem to me that you could keep the swing the same but shape the shots by just making the grip stronger/weaker in combination with aiming right or left. What are the reasons one would want to also change the swing path, given how hard it is to ingrain new movement patterns? > > I get it if you have an out-to-in swing plane, then you would have to use an exessively strong grip to close the face and also aim right to get straight shots (I think). Does it depend on whether the player is stuck with an out-to-in or in-to-out swing plane and can't or is unwilling to change that? > > This leads me to a related thought. Instead of making the grip stronger, couldn't you just aim with the face a bit closed at address. I mean, isn't that what the strong grip results in anyway? Is it that it's easier to fine-tune the strengthness at the grip rather than at the club face, or is it that you want to see the club face pointing towards the target at address? > > Regards > Olle Not sure I understand what you suggest but the easiest way is to align your body to get the swing path where you want, aim the club face and take normal grip + setup and just produce your normal swing.
  21. In my recollection "overacceleration" is the opposite of "maintaining lag pressure", it is felt in the hands but that could be misused: one could over accelerate the arms in an attempt to keep the pressure on #3.... Lag Pressure in TGM correspond to the lag of every swing component wrt to the previous one (from feet to hands), in more modern terms it would relate to keeping the kinetic chain functional. As always with TGM: this is my understanding and I've been wrong in the past.
  22. I'd say that a putter only has 3-5 degrees of loft, you don't want to deloft it.
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