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  1. Okay, here we go. First is the Hzrdus Yellow, then the Black, then the T800 (65g). For me, the Yellow launches slightly higher and spins slightly less than the Black. The T800 launches higher and spins much more. Hope this is useful.
  2. I tried the DHY a few years back as a five iron replacement. To be honest, it wasn't any easier to hit than the actual 5 iron it was supposed to replace, and the proper 5 iron was more accurate. Undaunted I have a Ping G Crossover on its way to attempt the same thing, but I'm dubious about that too. I also have a couple of 26ish proper hybrids that are significantly easier to elevate, and more forgiving in the sense that they have more consistent distance, but they too aren't as accurate. For me the choice is between a club that is usually on line, but sometimes short if I mishit it, or one that is usually long enough but sometimes off line.
  3. Check sold prices on eBay. Spoiler: $550 is cheap.
  4. After more than ten years with the same irons (JDM Callaway Great Big Bertha), I succumbed to an outbreak of ho-ing and wishful thinking and have gone through numerous irons in the past year. I can't see that there has been any real change aside from stronger lofts. 'Players' irons are still harder to hit than SGI irons because that is what makes them players irons. SGI irons are no easier to hit than they were 10-15 years ago in spite of new technology. I know there is considerable debate about the relevance of the Maltby MPF scores, but if you accept they have some basis in fact it is interesting that scores have not improved at all. My ancient GBB irons are just as forgiving as my new Steelhead XRs. They are just as long when equalised for loft. Crowd faves like the Apex CF16 are no better than previous crowd faves like the X22 Tour. There is no difference in performance between a Titleist CB of ten years ago and one today. I tried a Hogan Apex from 20 years ago against one of the new Hogans. No difference. Wedges? How could a blade wedge that looks exactly like a blade wedge from 15 years ago possibly be significantly better? Putters? The best-selling putters are based on a 50 year old design. And even with all the technology in MOI mallets, there is no proof that people actually sink more putts with them. Hybrids? If I'm honest, I don't hit my new Steelhead XRs any better than my old Adams Pro Golds. Or my older Taylormade utility. Fairways? Is the new Epic really any better than the classic Steelhead or V-steel? Do people now magically hit three woods off the deck any more successfully than they did years ago? Drivers are where the real technology race is supposed to be, but once they reached 460cc has anything really changed? My LTD should be much longer and much more forgiving than my old R7 Superquad, but I'm not convinced that it is. Even in the esoteric world of fancy shafts my old Matrix Altus produces numbers as good as my fancy new Hzrdus. Basically, we are all pathetic gullible fools trying to buy improvement. It's kind of fun. But also very silly. :)
  5. Just an update for those who started the hunger strike and Twitter bullying in an effort to shame me into actually following through with one of my late night promises. The Yellow has finally arrived. I thought I asked for a Cobra tip, but it actually has a Callaway one. I lose, shootout wins. My intention was to use my GBB head, but I've just acquired a Fusion head that actually produces better numbers with the Black and may be closer to the Epic for those that way inclined. It shouldn't matter that much as it the comparison I'm interested in.
  6. My normal shot is a draw, my evil miss is a pull hook. On the launch monitor, with the Hzrdus Black, I actually hit the Fusion more right than I normally do. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1455006-the-sluggish-swingspeed-shootout-epic-vs-epic-sz-vs-ltd-vs-gbb/page__st__60#entry15342448 Based on those results I took it out for a practice on the course today and set it up for a draw (+1, D). A few went more left than I'd like, so I suspect a neutral setting would be better. I should note I had a different shaft in it (a Hzrdus Yellow I've never tried before) so I don't know if that contributed. I'd say there is a draw bias, but not as much as the GBB or the standard Epic. On the bright side, I hit some nicely controlled deliberate fades, so it is workable.
  7. Just thought I'd add another contender to the mix. This is the mostly ignored Callaway Fusion driver with a Hzrdus Black. As you can see my swing was even more slothful than usual so ball speed is down, but the Fusion actually has the lowest spin of all the heads tested so far. I also didn't draw it as much as some of the others and when I did the spin and distance was absurdly low. Check the 3rd to last shot. I'm taking it out for my comp on Saturday instead of the LTD so we'll see how it goes on the course.
  8. On a whim (and because it was really cheap) i bought a Callaway Fusion driver head. My expectation based on the few threads here is that it would be a high launch, high spin forgiving head aimed at those who need all the help they can get. I beg to differ. I've been doing some quasi-scientific testing of various drivers for those of us with less than spritely swings. I've tested the Epic, Epic Subzero, GBB and Cobra LTD. And now the Fusion. For me, when combined with the Hzrdus Black I used as a baseline, it has lowest spin of all the drivers I've tested. Not by much, but the opposite of what I was expecting. When combined with its forgiveness, this makes it as least as long and accurate as its flashier brethren. I've tried the Recoil that normally comes with the Fusion in an Epic and found it to play the way most people describe the Fusion. Given that the price of one on eBay is 1/3 that of an Epic, it is worth checking out.
  9. I play the Apex 20 degree and agree with this. I prefer a hybrid I can hit down on a little bit, more like an iron, and it launches great. No draw bias at all. I heard the Steelhead hybrid is similar design but bigger and more forgiving, but I don't know if it is square. I carry my Apex a reliable 210 and that's a great distance for me at that loft. I have hit some highly accurate shots with it and it will stop on a green. Of the iron-like hybrids, it's as good as it gets. I've not tried the Apex, but for many years I played the Adams Pro Gold which is similarly square faced and ironish. I now have the Steelhead XRs and whilst I can hit them a long way, and they are very forgiving, they do not strike me as square. I can fade them if I concentrate, but my normal shot with them is a stronger draw than I would prefer. I'd love to see a Pro version like the irons, but would be peeved after buying the regulars.
  10. Have you tried an Epic? Whilst many report great results, some haven't been as lucky. Those who already get good numbers with their existing drivers (whether through luck or fitting) are most likely to see no real improvement. Your current setup seems to be very precisely designed for your needs so you may be in this category.
  11. For those interested, the Maltby MPF numbers for the SHXR Pro have it at 914, well into SGI territory. As a comparison, this is nearly triple the Apex CF16.
  12. Blue Dot is standard for Ping these days, ie slightly upright. I just bought a used one in red dot as I like a slightly flatter lie.
  13. ^^^^ I switched from the Rogue Black to Hzrdus in my LTD and, according to Trackman, kept the same launch but dropped spin by 600RPM.
  14. I was playing CMBs and have gone for more forgiving. However, nothing I have tried that is more forgiving has the same kind of feel. Can't have everything.
  15. I would pick an adjustable hybrid so you can vary the face angle to suit.
  16. I've owned or extensively tried out the XR, the XR Pro, Apex CF16, regular Steelhead XRs and now the Steelhead XR Pros. Based on trying the Pros on a LM indoors, I was expecting them to simply be a darker cooler version of the regular SHXRs. Which would have been fine, albeit annoying that they weren't available when I bought my SHXRs But when I took them out onto the course this morning I was surprised by how much I liked them and how well they performed with no practice. The result, despite average driving, was a 78. I'll take that any day. The look is obviously great. The offset is noticeably less than both the regular model and my Ping I25s and I have convinced myself this reduces my evil shot (a pull draw). Forgiveness feels identical to the SHXRS, and is thus notably better than the Apex (worst) and the XR Pros (better). Blade length is longer so this is what I'd expect. Distance was what I expected. The pleasant surprise was how good they felt, albeit with my squishy choice of ball (Supersoft). They felt softer than I remember the XR Pros feeling. Softer in fact than the supposedly forged Apex, although I've never quite understand why so many like them. About the same as my i25s in fact. They don't have that cliched buttery feel I got with the Adams CMB I used to own, but I can hit these. Very cool clubs.
  17. I was fitted to the HB with my GBB by (supposedly) the best fitter in town. It stomped the other shafts I tried. Close to ideal launch and spin, smash factor averaging 1.50, ball speed 5mph higher for the same swing speed, and dispersion to die for. However, being the cheap sort I didn't want to pay the bucks for a new one and I've yet to see one in my specs on eBay. So I tried both the Purple and the Gold as some have said they are close aside from the counter-weighting. Neither produced the results I was expecting from the numbers I saw from the HB on the course or on a (different) LM. I have had similar numbers in terms of launch and spin from other shafts, but nothing has been as remarkably consistent in terms of dispersion and smash factor. The big question is whether I was simply swinging really well when I tried it. The fitter is currently running a promotion for a free driver fitting and 40% off anything I buy subsequently, so I'm tempted to give it another try.
  18. Why would high launch and low spin be any less accurate than lower launch and more spin? By definition low spin means the ball goes straighter. And the wind doesn't care what height your shot is. The reason many pros are cool with higher spin is that they have enough distance already, and the more spin the easier it is to work the ball.
  19. You can still get the KBS Tour Customs from Golfworks in a glossy Black Pearl. My previous set of irons had these and they look good, but not as good as a matte black like the KBS FLT or the XP95 Black. There is also now a black KBS S-Taper, but I think that is gloss too. That matte finish with the simple red KBS badge looks great IMHO. I've been tempted by the new KBS graphite hybrid shafts just because they look so cool.
  20. Whilst both scores are still quite low, the Maltby MPF does indeed have the CB as more 'playable' than the AP2s.
  21. I picked up a set of the Steelhead Pros yesterday and took them out for a whack today. I previously owned the regular SHXRs. I like the look a lot better and the feel was better than I thought it would be. Better than I remember the regular set being. Aside from the looks, I bought them because of the combination of forgiveness and minimal offset. They do seem to be just as forgiving as the regulars, and whether the effects of reduced offset are all in my mind or not, I drew them less. Distance is about the same. The stock shafts suits me better than the Steelfiber stiffs I had in the regulars, but I will probably reshaft with the set fo black XP95s I have stashed. So for me an improvement but probably not worth it for most. I can't see the point of doing a combo set.
  22. Being the rational type I am a shaft skeptic. The 'science' of high launch and low spin just doesn't make sense. That said, I've been doing a bunch of launch monitor sessions with various heads and shafts lately to burn up some store credit I had. I also have a positive AOA (3.7) and launch at around 17* with pretty much every shaft I've tried. According to the LM numbers some do spin less than others, and hence go further. However, testing on another day, with that day's swing, sometimes produces very different numbers. And on course testing is even less definitive. For what it is worth, the Hzrdus Black you currently use has produced lower spin numbers in some sessions than most of the other shafts I've tested. But I remain dubious.
  23. I've had a similar experience (see my sluggish swing speed thread if you are curious or bored). I bought both an Epic and SZ and tried them against my current and previous driver with a range of shafts from stock T800 to Hzrdus Black and a few others. I got very nice results on course and on a LM. But no better than either of my older drivers. Admittedly my numbers were close to optimal with those drivers, but I saw no improvement in ball speed, forgiveness or dispersion. So I sold both. I'm at a loss to explain the massive improvements some are finding. Perhaps Jailbreak is of no help for my dignified swing speed. Perhaps it comes down to proper fitting. The fact that M1 testers here saw similar gains to Epic testers indicates the latter is the case. I'm kind of sad I didn't see any improvement, but to be honest not all that surprised.
  24. The way I have it figured, the i25 and the XR Pros have lofts within 1 degree up until the 8 iron. I doubt I'd notice that, and for those clubs I'm not worried about distance. Then there is a 6 degree gap between the the i25 8 iron and the SH Pro 7 iron. This is a bit of a jump (and I may reduce it by bending the 8 iron strong), but it happens at about the point (150 yards for me) where I go from a get it close expectation to a get it on or about expectation. The added forgiveness and (IMHO) reduced offset of the SH Pros long irons makes them more consistent in distance than the i25s. They are also easier to work, which is something I am trying to do to cut down on my evil miss, which is a pull/draw/hook. Even aside from lofts however, the SH Pros are longer and if I had enough slots in my bag I'd carry two 7 irons. What disturbs me most in the experiment so far is the aesthetics. I was planning on having all black set of irons (using the black TT XP95), but I hit the i25 short irons so well, and they feel so much better, that I'm not willing to sacrifice scoring for cool factor.
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