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  1. Interested in new Forged model also, thinking combo set with these!!!!
  2. So far the MMT 125TX in irons and wedges has been straighter than Steel ever was in anything and yes, less fatigue, at the end of the round. Rumors of 120-125 S are swirling around right now. But may put 105TX at 113 grams into the next set I shaft up...getting old...lol. My big test was the wedges and I can still do anything with a wedge I used to do with steel and get all the great feedback this shaft offers and flighting that I really like on partial shots.
  3. Best option is to get on a SAM Putt Lab and see what your ARC and ROTATION are, how they work together dictate a more informed choice of Toe Hang, Style of putter and grip size based on how consistent your rotation is. Everyone has some ARC and some rotation, if anyone tries to manage those two by manipulation of the natural stroke it is just some inconsistent band-aids. Take my stroke, 'Slight Arc' with 'Increased Rotation'...some will see slight ARC and go Face Balanced, but what it really means is my hands are rotating the face off the ARC and need a putter that demands my rotation, hence 60* works best for me. IT is not as simple as ARC to determine toe hang...
  4. Loving the Epic Flash SZ right now, so testing both that and the Mavrik will be upcoming as soon as heads arrive. Having seen all the Mavrik models in hand, no one should be surprised to see a similar top shape to the EF line, with the addition of the Draw model, a la Rogue Draw, but with better adjustability. Crowns are very similar to EF/Rogue line overall. No pics I have seen compare to in-hand, just sayin. Mavrik SZ looks like a BEAST at address, in the manner of POUND THE ($*#)$# OUT OF IT -- Beast! Standard looks, well, easier to hit, but very solid. The top is nothing like the 'Cobra Rickie Orange' release...hardly any orange on it....just like yellow/green on EF. FWs and Hybrid could easily make the bag this year....look great at address and many will love the profile on a certain fw.
  5. So far all of my testing and play as produced better results in both sets that I have shafted up...the Epon AF-305 and Apex Pro Dot heads. Also in both the Cobra Tour wedges and MD5s the results have been great. Whereas cost is ALWAYS a factor, it really comes down to performance when testing in the end. IF there is a steel shaft that works as good and feels as efficient, by all means, stay on budget! For those that absolutely need the slightly softer feel, load, impact-less-jarring of the graphite then these are worth a try. 8+ rounds in now and still haven't found a 'con' in the performance or feel of the shafts. Price would be only issue for most players.
  6. > @J13 said: > > @noodle3872 said: > > > @ian-500 said: > > > Come on lads and lassies, surely someone can compare OT Tour and MMT? From what I've read, OT Tour is a blueboard profile, and MMT more whiteboard? > > > > I wouldn’t say the OT Tour nor Thump iron or even the MMT is the flagship ron shaft. They are all super high quality irons shaft using a different construction method. The OT Tour uses Tow prepreg, Thump uses traditional sheet prepreg and MMT uses sheet prepreg with metal mesh added. Each is a premium product however they will have distinctly different loading patterns, different playing characteristics and different feels. > > > > From the testing I did eons ago, OT Tour felt light and easy to swing. Extremely easy to hit with good launch, spin and dispersion. Thump is a beast even in the 95S and 105S. It was a great feeling shaft but too firm feeling for my swing. It was work for me to get the shaft to launch at a playable level. MMT will be tested tomorrow in my hybrid. > > > > I think the MMT is their flagship iron shaft for players who want the benefits of graphite with the playing characteristics and balance of steel. Agree with this...most fits in this don't actually need graphite for speed or physical reasons, just feels like steel with better dispersion!! No brainer!!
  7. > @ian-500 said: > I may have asked before (can't remember!) but has anyone compared these to the OT Tour iron shafts? OTI, not having the MMT Metal Mesh in the tip feel a bit lighter thru the middle of the shaft, if you know what I mean. Compared the 90 MMT S and the OTI 95 S and there is just a lack of feel/to me/with the OTI compared to the MMT, can feel the head more in the MMT and ball flight a bit lower traj in the MMT also...not in bad way, just say a bit lower, but MMT was higher than steel.
  8. Got another round in and outside of me not making a great turn on the irons, they were a bit left today, but straight(no curvature) and pin high!! LOL! Trajectory was great as usual and the distance was right on my normal yardages. I have gotten so comfortable with the MMT's that I don't even think about the shaft at all any more. I am still feeling less fatigue after the rounds and still haven't found a 'con' about these iron shafts. They keep performing as expected in irons and wedges consistently. Nice to hear about others starting to test them more, they are going to be an option for anyone who wants a shaft easier on the body and doesn't want to see any performance or feel fall off by switching to a graphite shaft.
  9. > @noodle3872 said: > When I was talking to Jordan from Mitsubishi, he commented how the MMT’s feel unlike other graphite iron shafts. He said for him its the stability in the lower third of the shaft where the metal mesh is positioned where other ****graphite shafts he has used feel hollow in comparison****. My interpretation of Jordan’s comment is the shaft has a dense feel at contact that mirrors a high quality steel iron shaft but with the dampening benefits of graphite. Prior to using the OTh shafts, I use to play DG S300 in my hybrid. If the MMT’s marry the best of steel with the best of graphite and gives me mid launch and spin, I’ll be tickled pink! this --- ****graphite shafts he has used feel hollow in comparison**** is the best way to describe it for me....it doesn't feel hollow or out of balance, more steel-like here, than any other graphite I have tried. the real deal here is truthfully, I don't need graphite...speed-wise, or any physical issues that demand graphite in the irons, but THESE are the cake with my favorite icing on top....I am still looking for any con's in the shafts, but on course testing and fitting testing proves there are none to date.
  10. Got another round in today with the Epons and Cobra MMT combo. Shot well and wedges were on point and irons were SOOO GOOD!! Again, cannot explain the feel except that at NO POINT do I feel the lack of a steel shaft is ever an issue with the performance of the club and the ball flies straighter, goes the same distances, spins the same, holds the greens, checks hard when I hit those shots, etc etc etc. I do feel quite a bit less fatigue after the round with the MMT's and still have yet to find any cons, not even one, with the shafts. I ordered another set of shafts for the MD5 wedges now and will be updating on those too. I keep having guys hit the clubs to get feedback on the shafts, and to a man, they all love the feel and are amazed they are graphite and FEEL the way they do. They always mention they are surprised they are so easy to feel the weight in the shaft, vs other graphite that they lose that feel. If anyone is thinking that this something they want to try, I would suggest getting one in the weight you prefer and see if it is a great option for you.
  11. > @J13 said: > > @noodle3872 said: > > I spent some time on the phone with Jordan from Mitsubishi. Based on the feedback Jordan gave me, I’m going to try the MMT .370 tip in my hybrid. I’m told it should launch a touch higher than the equivalent weight OTh with a hair more spin and tighter feel. I also called Nippon about their G.O.S.T. Hybrid shaft. While it follows the Modus 105 bend profile in equivalent flex, the hybrid shaft will launch lower and spin less than the 105. > > Makes sense and interesting about the Nippon. And one thing I learned a long time ago was launch profile are kinda nonsense. It all comes down to the user and how they load a shaft. Launch profile is a good guide when fitting based on gamer results when testing on a place to start. At that point the results from the first shaft will help dictate profile and weight options as the fitting progresses. Gamer numbers are SO IMPORTANT on where to start on shaft profile/weight. The swing of the client will dictate where to start based on BALL FLIGHT...
  12. > @Pepperturbo said: > > @racmbs said: > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > > Do you guys know if places like True Spec carry full sets to actually get fit with? I'm dying to try these in wedges but I'm a lot more likely to soft step these so not sure if 8 and 9i shafts would be available to actually see numbers. I take a lot of partial shots with the LW and SW, so I worry the actual PW shaft could be a little too stiff for these swings. > > > > > > > > > > I put all the irons in straight install. Unless you need the height on your shots, no real reason to SS the irons. I don't know of any fitters though, that will have full sets of heads and shafts in length to test the MMT's, or any other shafts either. If you have already been fit for a shaft properly, the weight would be really close to the weight you need in the MMTs. > > > > > > > > Yeah I was fit for the Modus120X and I pretty much have tried every shaft in the 120-130g range, these are the clear shafts for me. I just worry with you guys who are in TX (which is much more tip stiff than X flex) that going straight in won't give me the feel I like b/c it could feel a little too stiff. > > > > > > > > I use TX in my GW and SW but they are 8i shafts so that's a 2x SS plus with the heavier wedge heads, it kind of plays even softer. > > > > > > I will say this, I was playing Modus 120x for a couple of years and went back to Modus 125TX for the 'heft' feel in the shaft. The MMT 125TX in graphite, feels, loads, responsive like a steel shaft and it may be tip stiff, but it doesn't feel tip stiff at impact or through the ball. People mention that the shaft feels stout when they swing it, but they don't mention that it lacks any feedback at impact, they usually mention they are surprised that it is so responsive of the quality of the strike. > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" I'm currently playing Modus 120x and was going to go down to Modus 120s, due to my shoulder and back issues. The MMT are very intriguing to me at the moment, so would you suggest SS x 2, based off your own testing? > > @J13 makes a good point regarding 105 Stiff. I have been testing MMT 105 "S" 6 iron and surprised how stable and strong they feel, yet it's smoother then Steelfiber "S" and stands up noticeably well to my taper tip 120g PX 6.0 and 120g LZ 6.0. Also not feeling the club-head in the back of my swing with Steelfiber i95cw "S" which throws off my transition and tempo, that hasn't been the case with MMT 105 "S." Pepper, this has been the BEST part about these, you can feel the whole club in the swing...not JUST THE HEAD, so you actually can feel the whole plane of the swing and no disconnect in the swing!!
  13. > @J13 said: > > @racmbs said: > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > > Do you guys know if places like True Spec carry full sets to actually get fit with? I'm dying to try these in wedges but I'm a lot more likely to soft step these so not sure if 8 and 9i shafts would be available to actually see numbers. I take a lot of partial shots with the LW and SW, so I worry the actual PW shaft could be a little too stiff for these swings. > > > > > > > > > > I put all the irons in straight install. Unless you need the height on your shots, no real reason to SS the irons. I don't know of any fitters though, that will have full sets of heads and shafts in length to test the MMT's, or any other shafts either. If you have already been fit for a shaft properly, the weight would be really close to the weight you need in the MMTs. > > > > > > > > Yeah I was fit for the Modus120X and I pretty much have tried every shaft in the 120-130g range, these are the clear shafts for me. I just worry with you guys who are in TX (which is much more tip stiff than X flex) that going straight in won't give me the feel I like b/c it could feel a little too stiff. > > > > > > > > I use TX in my GW and SW but they are 8i shafts so that's a 2x SS plus with the heavier wedge heads, it kind of plays even softer. > > > > > > I will say this, I was playing Modus 120x for a couple of years and went back to Modus 125TX for the 'heft' feel in the shaft. The MMT 125TX in graphite, feels, loads, responsive like a steel shaft and it may be tip stiff, but it doesn't feel tip stiff at impact or through the ball. People mention that the shaft feels stout when they swing it, but they don't mention that it lacks any feedback at impact, they usually mention they are surprised that it is so responsive of the quality of the strike. > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" I'm currently playing Modus 120x and was going to go down to Modus 120s, due to my shoulder and back issues. The MMT are very intriguing to me at the moment, so would you suggest SS x 2, based off your own testing? > > Have you thought about going to the 105's? A little less weight wouldn't be a bad thing for back issues. Plus you could get Stiff flex Agree with J13, I would suggest 105 TX at 113 grams, same as Modus 120 Stiff and will be on point flight wise. Could SS 1x the lower wedges if you wanted to get some softer playability on partial shots.
  14. > @Z1ggy16 said: > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > > > Do you guys know if places like True Spec carry full sets to actually get fit with? I'm dying to try these in wedges but I'm a lot more likely to soft step these so not sure if 8 and 9i shafts would be available to actually see numbers. I take a lot of partial shots with the LW and SW, so I worry the actual PW shaft could be a little too stiff for these swings. > > > > > > > > > > > > I put all the irons in straight install. Unless you need the height on your shots, no real reason to SS the irons. I don't know of any fitters though, that will have full sets of heads and shafts in length to test the MMT's, or any other shafts either. If you have already been fit for a shaft properly, the weight would be really close to the weight you need in the MMTs. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I was fit for the Modus120X and I pretty much have tried every shaft in the 120-130g range, these are the clear shafts for me. I just worry with you guys who are in TX (which is much more tip stiff than X flex) that going straight in won't give me the feel I like b/c it could feel a little too stiff. > > > > > > > > > > I use TX in my GW and SW but they are 8i shafts so that's a 2x SS plus with the heavier wedge heads, it kind of plays even softer. > > > > > > > > I will say this, I was playing Modus 120x for a couple of years and went back to Modus 125TX for the 'heft' feel in the shaft. The MMT 125TX in graphite, feels, loads, responsive like a steel shaft and it may be tip stiff, but it doesn't feel tip stiff at impact or through the ball. People mention that the shaft feels stout when they swing it, but they don't mention that it lacks any feedback at impact, they usually mention they are surprised that it is so responsive of the quality of the strike. > > > > > > I'm going to have to try them out to see how it is. It's not even funny how much better modus 120 is for me compared to everything else I've tried. Only thing that came close in terms of shaft feel has been $ Taper and PX LZ, but Modus gave me much better dispersion. If I had to lean one way with a shaft, it would be softer, just because when things "feel" too stout, then it tends to make me rush the tempo and try to hit "at" the ball instead of my normal swing. I don't think it's a speed issue, as my 6i swing speed when I'm trained and healthy is around 95mph. It's purely feel for me. > > > > Worse case you could SS them in a 4-PW set since they offer a 3 iron shaft. Soften a touch and launch/spin a touch more. > > That's kind of what I thought. Say I SS 1x in a 4-PW... Would I also play the 9i in GW & SW then maybe move to PW shaft in the LW? I just pretty much confirmed with the MCA Rep here that the places closest to me that are authorized dealers won't have full sets (probably just 7i shafts) so it's sort of a toss up. I would do the 9 Iron in Gap and Pw, and PW In SW and LW. When I build I tend to make PW and Gap same length and then SW/LW same length, but .25 inches short of PW/GW. I want the same feel in the PW/GW and then in the SW/LW since mainly same type of shots within the 2 wedge groups.
  15. > @Z1ggy16 said: > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > @"Dscvrr St Louis" said: > > > > > @Z1ggy16 said: > > > > > Do you guys know if places like True Spec carry full sets to actually get fit with? I'm dying to try these in wedges but I'm a lot more likely to soft step these so not sure if 8 and 9i shafts would be available to actually see numbers. I take a lot of partial shots with the LW and SW, so I worry the actual PW shaft could be a little too stiff for these swings. > > > > > > > > I put all the irons in straight install. Unless you need the height on your shots, no real reason to SS the irons. I don't know of any fitters though, that will have full sets of heads and shafts in length to test the MMT's, or any other shafts either. If you have already been fit for a shaft properly, the weight would be really close to the weight you need in the MMTs. > > > > > > Yeah I was fit for the Modus120X and I pretty much have tried every shaft in the 120-130g range, these are the clear shafts for me. I just worry with you guys who are in TX (which is much more tip stiff than X flex) that going straight in won't give me the feel I like b/c it could feel a little too stiff. > > > > > > I use TX in my GW and SW but they are 8i shafts so that's a 2x SS plus with the heavier wedge heads, it kind of plays even softer. > > > > I will say this, I was playing Modus 120x for a couple of years and went back to Modus 125TX for the 'heft' feel in the shaft. The MMT 125TX in graphite, feels, loads, responsive like a steel shaft and it may be tip stiff, but it doesn't feel tip stiff at impact or through the ball. People mention that the shaft feels stout when they swing it, but they don't mention that it lacks any feedback at impact, they usually mention they are surprised that it is so responsive of the quality of the strike. > > I'm going to have to try them out to see how it is. It's not even funny how much better modus 120 is for me compared to everything else I've tried. Only thing that came close in terms of shaft feel has been $ Taper and PX LZ, but Modus gave me much better dispersion. If I had to lean one way with a shaft, it would be softer, just because when things "feel" too stout, then it tends to make me rush the tempo and try to hit "at" the ball instead of my normal swing. I don't think it's a speed issue, as my 6i swing speed when I'm trained and healthy is around 95mph. It's purely feel for me. Worse case you could SS them in a 4-PW set since they offer a 3 iron shaft. Soften a touch and launch/spin a touch more.
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