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  1. feel free to PM me for info on clubs referred to above
  2. pretty sure the caddie requirement went away during covid. fivesomes at private clubs don't slow things down as much as you think b/c they are cognizant of the fact that they are five so often they play fastest. but as the initial replier said, just ask them.
  3. there are some clubs in NJ/westchester/LI that are relatively accessible via train & walk or very short uber. having said that, there are no places that do refundable initiations and many clubs that over the last decade were 0 initiation have brought them back in recent years esp b/c of the covid golf boom. there are a number of threads here about diff clubs and some of the more affordable ones. of course, the more affordable the private club, the more members meaning your PoP desire will be compromised. what'll also be compromised is that the more affordable spots tend to be that much further from the city, which limits you if you don't have a car.
  4. oaks tpc isn't in same league as valencia or hacienda. PM Me if you'd like to know more about VCC or hacienda in terms of course quality, what the clubs are like & ballpark pricing.
  5. if you're teeing off before 8, you can absolutely get to lake success, wheatley hills or a few of the clubs near JFK in 30 mins while living on the east side of manhattan, provided you're driving with the desire to do the trip in 30 mins. did it hundreds of times.
  6. debating whether to get the regular 3w or the SZ 3w, and whether to go with the riptide shaft or the rogue shaft. i still game an original epic SZ driver w/ a project x lz 6.0. i'm a bit of a low ball right to left hitter but i do strike it solidly. intiially i was going to get 2 - 1 SZ w/ the riptide & a regular with the rogue msi shaft. but then i read that the sub zero allows you to change the weights to adjust launch / spin, and therefore was thinking either both with the rogue shaft or just the sub zero. i game a 2015 xr pro hybrid 20*, but have typically tended to use non-tour/pro heads in my fairway woods. any advice would be appreciated. i realize that CG pushes regular headed players to riptide & sub zero players to the rogue off the website, but obviously my initial idea bucks that trend. i do value higher ball flight, distance and forgiveness in the 3w, but the draw bias of the regular head is the only thing giving me pause. my current 3w is the ancient taylor 200 that i put a px LZ in to replace the stock shaft thinking it would give me more distance, but hasn't worked out. i miss it low left even more often than i did before.
  7. i have found the image results for the prov1/prov1x, but doing so for other premium balls is a bit more difficult. what i'm trying to do is find a visual database that shows the marking changes through the years on balls like the chrome soft, srixon z-star, bridgestone 330 series so that when i find said balls, i could group them by year of production and not necessarily brand. i have this suspicion that a 2019 chrome soft has more in common with a 2019 srixon z-star than it would with the first iteration of the chrome soft. i could be wrong, but just a hunch that the tech has improved that much and/or found balls that are newer are better than older ones. or perhaps i'm just falling for the marketing
  8. you could ask if they'd be willing to meet with you over Zoom. maybe they'd share the pricing then since they're seeing you in person. ive heard tri-state area clubs that have even done interviews via zoom this year.
  9. if you don't mind driving, centennial in carmel is good. also, mahopac golf & beach club historically has been on box groove, and that's a very solid private track about 30 mins away.
  10. probably so busy. you can still book TTs online and they've gotten a ton of play this year. and there are IG pics from there as of yesterday so... (https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1940200/rustic-canyon-golf-course/)
  11. another thing: a typical day at bethpage, the back tees that are down are almost never all the way back. so theyre not giving you the 7400 set up, but certainly something in the 7k, at most 7200 yard variety. examples include 3 normally playing 180 not 205, and 10/12 playing more in the 470 range than the 500 yard range. but if youre a good player play whatever tees youd like and just be mindful of the groups in front of and behind you.
  12. @scottbox - PM me & i can help you out a bit
  13. knickerbocker has lots of jr members & i believe is always looking for more. brooklake has a lot of corp memberships and also is a place looking for more members. as such, a email or phone call into either can answer your inquiries. both are good clubs and courses but its not like youre trying to get the skinny on ridgewood or arcola here
  14. i think it really varies & depends. if someone says "hey come play my club" you can expect not to pay, but should always be ready to pay. if you have a friend who's a member of a club around your age and you push for the game, expect to pay. everyone i've ever hosted always says at the end "let me know what i owe you". and yes, ive been reimbursed (and paid guest fees) via venmo. and yes, you should always offer to pick the caddie fee for both yourself & the guest, if caddies with guests are mandatory. and this was said earlier but if host refuses a greens fee comp then you best pay for his caddie. net net, no matter who's hosting you, always go in expecting to pay & offering to pay.
  15. current home club/course: Greens - ~6500 blues - ~6250 whites - ~6k white / silver combo ~5500 silvers - ~5200 white/silver combo tees only sloped for women. there are 2 other sloped/rated setups (1 at ~6400, 1 at ~6200) rated for men that have been used historically for specific tournaments where some holes are played from green, some blue, some white, some silver etc. there's also an unrated/sloped set of "black" tees where we stretch the course out to anywhere from 6750-7k for the occasional week day member tourney. wish they did this for outside events & got the course rated / sloped from that distance, but doubtful it occurs. old home club / course: greens: - ~6650 blues - ~6300 whites - ~6050 blue/white hybrid - don't remember there are also black red & gold tees all under 6k yards. i believe the blacks were meant for the top women, the golds for juniors. most women play the red. the blacks arent sloped for men, but the reds and golds are.
  16. havent played it in a few years now but the best advice to give on the black IMO is when you get in the rough, take your medicine. you wont make double bogeys if you do b/c the greens aren't too crazy. a drive in the rough followed by PW/PW or with your distance a pair of gap wedge shots will keep 6s off the card and breaking 85 is obtainable.
  17. check out rancho del sol in moreno valley ca instead of valle vista. just reopened. fka moreno valley ranch, used to be 27, now 18. pete dye design but who knows how much work pete truly did compared to his wife/kids/associates.
  18. do PV & virginia allow for incremental payments of their inititaions for those under 40 or 35 etc the way other well-known LA clubs do?
  19. there are a handful of threads in here on that topic. if you've gone through those and need more detail, feel free to PM me.
  20. palos verdes GC likely far more affordable init wise. its also notably more affordable if you live in palos verdes estates. you also got virginia cc in Long Beach, but not sure how obtainable membership is there nor what the init fee is. i say that because on the club website, there's no place to even ask for membership info.
  21. Long Island national went private, perhaps as early as 2009 but certainly by 2013.
  22. the mentions above refer to the hidden creek in new jersey. given that this is a florida thread, is the original poster maybe referring to the hidden creek that's in navarre aka the club at hidden creek?
  23. some of the more affordable westchester clubs are Rye, westchester hills, hampshire, leewood & mahopac beach club (which is way up north of chappaqua). of course, none of those are perfect and that's why they're currently affordable, but for westchester they are worth looking into. for long island besides the aformentioned lake success, the other village clubs such as lawrence & sands point tend to be more affordable. a couple of the other clubs near lawrence are also reasonably priced. also may find deals at tam o'shanter & muttontown, as neither are owned by their members anymore. throughout NJ, there are far more deals but you're looking at a much longer drive and much worse traffic. numerous threads in here about NJ clubs but some that come to mind / have been mentioned are NJ national, shackamaxon, newton cc, forest hill fc, panther valley & watchung valley. the latter of which considers (or did as of 2 years ago) NYC residents to be out of town / national members, thus reduced dues. additionally, a lot of clubs because of the pandemic have moved away from mandatory caddies and some even mandatory carts, so its something worth looking into. having said all that, even with golf tee sheets booming during the pandemic, the economic fall out hasn't been truly been felt yet in the middle/upper class (not a groundbreaking statement here). but with that in mind, there could be loads and loads of deals coming this fall & winter as members begin to drop out due to belt tightening. you may also find families decide to drop out & Reallocate funds to travel for next summer when it'll likely be allowed again. (on the contrary, ive heard some area clubs benefited this summer from lack of sleepaway camp & european travel, as those who could afford it decided to join clubs). regardless, there were tons of deals to be had in NYC area 2009-2011 coming out of the great recession, and i'd have to think the same thing will occur coming out of the pandemic.
  24. haven't played the other to but hacienda's an excellent golf course especially from the championship or watson tees.
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