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  1. Traditionally, “national” clubs are made up of members who are not local to the club - they travel in and stay in lodging on-site. But I agree with @Tim_Gavrich - Augusta is the reason that this became a popular naming convention.
  2. The underlying premise here is that the ratings aren’t influenced by the owners of these new resorts rolling out the red carpet for raters on all-expenses-paid raters trips. There isn’t nearly as much pressure (or upside) for new private clubs to get into the rankings...so they don’t.
  3. Whitinsville is a private club - it’s not impossible to get on, but it is not open to the public.
  4. On the "this is for five, I assume it's good", the question itself belies the motivation of the player. If the other player is in for 4, and the opponent is putting for 5...good etiquette would dictate that they pick up the ball and move to the next hole unless they can win the hole. If you're out of the hole, you move on. If I guy is standing over a putt...he's not out of the hole.
  5. Crumpin Fox is, in my view, a course in the "test of golf" category. Penal? Sure. The modern minimalist school of golf is more free flowing - shoot your shot, have "options", take your next shot. Hit a bad shot? You can recover with a good shot! Crumpin Fox is like: there are two viable shots here. One is easier, one is harder. The harder one puts birdie in play, the easier one will get you to par if you do it well. Choose which one you want to take. Fail at either and expect a penalty of 0.5 - 1 stroke. Very different styles, but both can be fun.
  6. In the COVID era, our first available time is 8:00 (7:30 on weekends). Pre-COVID was 7:00, but the grounds crew is smaller this year and needs more time.
  7. Playing for a cash prize causes you to lose amateur status. Most member-guest tournaments that have money on the line do it in two ways: first, a prize voucher worth up to $750 - usually pro shop credit; and second as versions of gambling, which is permitted with certain restrictions.
  8. We all have different perspectives here - but this one is borderline insanity to me. I'm a member of a club in the same category as mentioned by the OP. If I invite a 26 year old guy to play, I have zero expectation that he will pay for anything. Zero. It's not charity. It's my club, and what it costs to host a guest is between me and my fellow members. The guest has nothing to do with the equation. The idea that a "slight offense" could "blackball" a kid is ludicrous. I guarantee you that said kid is probably going to commit some faux pas at the club (OMG, he changed his shoes in
  9. How is it the "same shot" if it's from 80 yards closer to the hole?
  10. Also I would strongly recommend that you hold off on your decision until next season. The COVID shut down is going to force a reckoning on all clubs' budgets this fall, and there may be some 2010 style deals out there come Springtime.
  11. I heard a rumor somewhere that Marriott was interested in taking it over as a resort property. But total rumor.
  12. I fully understand that the no-tee-time model doesn't work everywhere. Ironically, I think it especially doesn't work well at the kinds of clubs that golfwrxer's dream about - clubs that are no-frills, all golf, have members who love golf and play competitive rounds. That's a recipe for half the club wanting to tee off at 8:00am on Saturday. Clubs have different cultures, and that's OK.
  13. Our club has not been especially forthcoming about the financial picture, but it’s clearly suffering. We’re sort of boxed out of an assessment because we did a significant one in Q1 to upgrade some clubhouse facilities and the membership will revolt if they did a second. I think the underlying hope is that construction costs come in much lower than planned (there was a 25% escalator contingency) and the Q1 assessment can cover the losses.
  14. Prairie Dunes; private but not impossible to get on. Branson is a solid stopover. Sweetens Cove.
  15. My home course - which is not generally considered “low budget” - maintains the collars at about 1” height. If you’re more than an inch or two off the green and on the collar, you can’t really putt it. The next cut of rough is generally much thicker. If you expect to be able to putt, you should probably hit and hold the green.
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