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  1. IMO this is one of the issues that occasional caddie players have with caddies - you see it on tour, so you expect the caddie to tell you what club to hit. I think it's much more effective for the caddie to provide local knowledge / facts to the golfer and let them do the "analysis" on what to hit. Instead of "this is an 8 iron for you" it's..."this is 150, but it's uphill and with this wind; most guys will take an extra club to get there." If you play with the same caddie all the time, the guy knows your game as well as you do and can legit grab you clubs. At a place l
  2. There's a thing called the "Stagecoach Practice Club" under development in Chapel Hill, NC. Not crazy but probably works best as a private club. https://www.golf-architecture.com/in-progress
  3. I actually think there is some insight there. That rankings reflect the values system of the publication and raters...which might be different from your own. "Their" Top 100 is theirs...but it might not align at all with what you love about golf. And nobody's Top 100 is "wrong"...we all just have different preferences.
  4. Sure. Drop shot Par 3 with a green divided into really three zones. Wind is the overwhelming design element. A lot of people's "stock" 100 yard shot is a towering wedge that spins. You have to decide if that is the right shot - if the wind is in your face, you need a lot more club than that. If the wind is right-to-left you need to aim basically into the ocean. Or do you hit a different shot that might not eat so much wind? The combination of the wind and the front right bunker placement give you a whole bunch of choices about what the best shot is going to be...and choices are the
  5. First, I agree with you, that the shortcomings of Pasa do exist at some other great courses. Every course has a blemish. The problem is that Pasa has at least these three, plus some others (for example, it's a difficult course to walk). You can't gloss over weaknesses when other courses don't have them. Pasatiempo's best holes put it in great company...but unfortunately, there are some issues with the course overall. There are other courses that have fewer great holes...but also have fewer downsides. To address your argument however, it's ludicrous to say that Pebble has "about the
  6. For the "Pasatiempo is top 50" crowd...there are sort of 3 issues that I have with the course: (1) The amount of housing / OB that comes into play. If Pasa were on an isolated piece of property, and the houses / OB didn't exist...it would be a much better course. (2) The tightness of 6/7/8. Overall, I think the property is cramped, and that's most obvious in the 6/7/8 stretch. (3) Finishing on a par 3. Call it quirk. Sure. But all things considered, I don't think finishing on a Par 3 is ideal.
  7. To be clear, every course that fits the description "on Long Island, private, and hosted numerous majors" is in the Top 25. Pasa is fine but it's not inappropriately rated at ~100.
  8. FTFY "Customers" when everything's going great..."Owners" when the bills come due...
  9. I would say that probably half of the "complaints" at our club are about the 'intimidating' GM and PGA Pro. It's a common rhetorical question to wonder if they own the club or if we do.
  10. [Equity] clubs encourage members to think like 'owners' because...they are. At our club, there is non-stop banter that some might view as 'complaint', but it's really all in the service of making the club better. There is no 'better' club that any of us could join; we're just trying to make the club be the best that it can be. To address another sidethread...none of these complaints would ever go to the staff. Ever. The club is run by member committee and you can only get anything done through these committees.
  11. This is just not possible or your buddy doesn't understand the system. CV uses the "Chelsea System" to allocate member tee times in the summer and times are allocated to people based on how little they play. Somebody who 'wasn't able' to get a tee time in a given week would be first in line the next week. The only way your buddy *could* get hosed is if his three playing partners play a lot so he's always getting lumped into a high-point group, despite not having any points himself. I had zero issues getting out last year...but I tend to not play at prime times.
  12. The other thing is that nobody sticks greens with a long iron. Never did. If you look at the Trackman stats, a PGA Tour player hits a 3 iron (basically what a one iron used to be) with half the spin and 10% less landing angle than a 9 iron. On a fast and firm course...that's not 'sticking' on the green.
  13. As others have noted, I still carry and hit a club that's the same loft and length as an old 1 iron. It has a 3 stamped on the bottom.
  14. Traditionally, “national” clubs are made up of members who are not local to the club - they travel in and stay in lodging on-site. But I agree with @Tim_Gavrich - Augusta is the reason that this became a popular naming convention.
  15. The underlying premise here is that the ratings aren’t influenced by the owners of these new resorts rolling out the red carpet for raters on all-expenses-paid raters trips. There isn’t nearly as much pressure (or upside) for new private clubs to get into the rankings...so they don’t.
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