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  1. A couple of years ago we had this "who has the best swing on golfwrx thread", I was in it (not that I have the best swing), monte was in it too. Anyway this guy bursts in there and goes "MONTE! YOU LOOK LIKE A 4 HANDICAP, AND THRILLHOUSE! ARE YOU EVEN A PRO?" Lol it was pretty funny, I'm like damn dude my move is pretty good for a fat kid, and Monte played web.com (or whatever it was called back then)! Fast forward 5 years later and after a few years away from golf I'm literally a 4 handicap right now, and Monte and iteach would both wipe the floor with me, so I guess that's an answer.
  2. I like PXG clubs, and I'm not bothered by the price point or any if that stuff. You're talking about the "you'll meet a better class of people in the fairway" thing? I thought it was tongue in cheek, but if I didn't like the clubs or the brand or took issue with the pricing I might react differently. That being said the commercials are kind of low brow anyway, so I guess it's all par for the course.
  3. Thrillhouse

    US Amateur

    Nice job qualifying!
  4. I don't go back to the old stuff too often, if I'm not using that anymore its because I'm tired of it. What I will do is sell the new misbehaving club quickly if it isn't working out and move on to something else. Sometimes it takes weeks or months, but other times I have used something once, not liked it, and gotten rid of it (3 woods do this the most, dunno why). Seems like you're asking how long you should wait. Thats kind of personal. If you don't switch clubs much maybe you should give them some time so you can get used to them. If you switch clubs all the time and are used to adjusting quickly (I'm in this camp) and they aren't working out maybe you should just go back to the old ones for now and sell the AP2s.
  5. Also, many state golf associations host "member for a day" programs at private courses. Massachusetts has a roster of ~20 days where the public can essentially just sign up and play a private course as long as the player is a member in the MGA. Every year they mix up the courses and outside of maybe the top 10 courses in the state they have some real gems in the program I think the bigger issue is that the money for a club isn't as much as we would think. Let's say a good, not great private course opens for play on Mondays. In mass, that means probably 20 days during the season. Let's say they charge $100 per player and let's say they get 100 golfers a day - that is $200k in extra revenue (I would argue that it would be hard to fill those 100 slots too for Monday's - people work!) $200k in extra revenue offset probably by $75k in costs - $125k in profit. Let's say average private has 350 members - that would only reduce their dues by $360. With most of the good, not great courses (at least in Mass) having dues north of $6k per year - it's just not that much money! Heck even take Brookline (best course in Boston) and let's just double the revenue figures and it still doesn't mean that much for the members to offset their costs... also, remember that these courses frequently have corporate outings on Monday and charge $200 (and up) per player This is another important factor - maintenance costs (and expectations) are so much higher in the US than in the U.K. that the price where it would begin to make sense for the private course would be waaaay out of line for the general public golfers. A better private club would probably want ~$400 in greens fees, maybe more, and not many people (other than those who are members already) are willing to pay that kind of money. Same thing in Scotland to some degree - I know a bunch of guys from the East Lothian area, and none have played Muirfield - it's "too expensive"... The price the top UK private clubs charge is extremely high (probably for the reasons you're noting). Wentworth West was over 400 GBP ten years ago when I played it, so roughly $800 USD at the time (for the record I didn't pay that much lol, would have been crazy). Sunningdale was less but still expensive, over 200 GBP for sure. They offer a daily thing as well where you can play both courses and get breakfast and lunch, I think it's 300-400 GBP, something like that. So even though they "allow" public play they price it so high hardly anyone is going to pay it. You'd either have to be very wealthy (and still a member of a club somewhere so you can have a letter written for you, some places will ask for that), or be a complete golf nerd who is willing to pay a lot to tick a great course off of your list. If I could play Winged Foot and The Country Club in Brookline and other places like that for $400 would I do it? Sure, maybe once a year I'd go knock out a top 100 private club. If it was $1000? Probably not, I mean I might do that for once in a lifetime places like Augusta or Cypress Point but it's just excessive, and I think the top U.K. Private clubs are aware of this. Honestly it costs so much I doubt the outside play is much of a revenue stream for the London clubs (might be different for the Open venues), which again makes me interested about the reasons why they allow it. The price is so high hardly anyone is going to pay it. That almost sounds like a Yogism, "Nobody goes there anymore it's too crowded". If they are priced so high why have those on the forums who have played some of the courses in the UK and Ireland done just that, while having to book their time many months in advance because the demand is so high for the opportunity. I guess we're just "nerds". I'll never get the chance to play WF or the Country Club so I'll just be content to play top 100 courses that give me the opportunity and appreciate my being there. Not sure why Wentworth West would be so expensive when its not even ranked in the top 20 courses in the UK. Perhaps as you mention, it has to do with its location near London. Yet, you can play Royal St. George's for 190 GBP, Royal Birkdale for 205 GBP, Muirfield and Troon for 230 GBPs etc. So playing Birkdale for about $260, Muirfield etc for less than $300 doesn't seem too outrageous. Granted thanks to Brexit or other factors, the exchange rate is great for us going over from the states now. A final thought, have you seen what Pebble Beach gets these days ($525?), Bandon Dunes, Whistling Straights? They are just as expensive or more yet people have no problem paying to play there. Well, speaking for myself I played those courses because I'm a colossal golf nerd ;)
  6. My club does the same thing! The super is actually doing it on purpose, we have quick greens (because that's how the members want it) and the super loves to find the little spots on the green where the ball can easily roll several feet away if it gets more than a foot or two away from the cup in the wrong direction. Im with you Jeff, I would prefer they set the pins based on tournament standards as well. Part of the problem is that a lot of the members actually seem to like it for some reason. I guess if people didn't they'd tell the super to set the pins differently.
  7. Also, many state golf associations host "member for a day" programs at private courses. Massachusetts has a roster of ~20 days where the public can essentially just sign up and play a private course as long as the player is a member in the MGA. Every year they mix up the courses and outside of maybe the top 10 courses in the state they have some real gems in the program I think the bigger issue is that the money for a club isn't as much as we would think. Let's say a good, not great private course opens for play on Mondays. In mass, that means probably 20 days during the season. Let's say they charge $100 per player and let's say they get 100 golfers a day - that is $200k in extra revenue (I would argue that it would be hard to fill those 100 slots too for Monday's - people work!) $200k in extra revenue offset probably by $75k in costs - $125k in profit. Let's say average private has 350 members - that would only reduce their dues by $360. With most of the good, not great courses (at least in Mass) having dues north of $6k per year - it's just not that much money! Heck even take Brookline (best course in Boston) and let's just double the revenue figures and it still doesn't mean that much for the members to offset their costs... also, remember that these courses frequently have corporate outings on Monday and charge $200 (and up) per player This is another important factor - maintenance costs (and expectations) are so much higher in the US than in the U.K. that the price where it would begin to make sense for the private course would be waaaay out of line for the general public golfers. A better private club would probably want ~$400 in greens fees, maybe more, and not many people (other than those who are members already) are willing to pay that kind of money. Same thing in Scotland to some degree - I know a bunch of guys from the East Lothian area, and none have played Muirfield - it's "too expensive"... The price the top UK private clubs charge is extremely high (probably for the reasons you're noting). Wentworth West was over 400 GBP ten years ago when I played it, so roughly $800 USD at the time (for the record I didn't pay that much lol, would have been crazy). Sunningdale was less but still expensive, over 200 GBP for sure. They offer a daily thing as well where you can play both courses and get breakfast and lunch, I think it's 300-400 GBP, something like that. So even though they "allow" public play they price it so high hardly anyone is going to pay it. You'd either have to be very wealthy (and still a member of a club somewhere so you can have a letter written for you, some places will ask for that), or be a complete golf nerd who is willing to pay a lot to tick a great course off of your list. If I could play Winged Foot and The Country Club in Brookline and other places like that for $400 would I do it? Sure, maybe once a year I'd go knock out a top 100 private club. If it was $1000? Probably not, I mean I might do that for once in a lifetime places like Augusta or Cypress Point but it's just excessive, and I think the top U.K. Private clubs are aware of this. Honestly it costs so much I doubt the outside play is much of a revenue stream for the London clubs (might be different for the Open venues), which again makes me interested about the reasons why they allow it.
  8. Honestly? Meh. I've explained myself with respect to the Tiger DWI thread above. While I do have a tendency to react aggressively when called out on here (that much is true, and yes, I agree I need to work on it), I really don't think anyone believes that I'm the type of person who runs around eviscerating people simply because they post that their family member was killed by a drunk driver. So I'm going to end my back and forth with you here, as I don't think it serves any of us. But like I said, happy to talk to you via PM, and I am listening to your point that I should tone down some of my reactions on here. While I disagree with how you're going about it you do have a point.
  9. That is a complete lie. That poster accused me of "supporting drunk driving" because I didn't agree that Tiger having trace amounts of THC in his system meant he was intoxicated under it while behind the wheel, and then tried to excuse it by saying that his accusation was ok because he lost a family member to it. At that point I said I wouldn't accept his apology because I too have lost a family member to drunk driving, and found his accusation that I support drunk driving extremely offensive. Honestly where do you get off posting that? Way out of line. Where do I get off posting your own words? Where do I get off disagreeing with you? Is that what you're trying to say? Just try talking a little nicer to people. I'm more than happy to discuss your issues with my posting via PM. But again, for the record, what you're accusing me of is completely untrue.
  10. That is a complete lie. That poster accused me of "supporting drunk driving" because I didn't agree that Tiger having trace amounts of THC in his system meant he was intoxicated under it while behind the wheel, and then tried to excuse it by saying that his accusation was ok because he lost a family member to it. At that point I said I wouldn't accept his apology because I too have lost a family member to drunk driving, and found his accusation that I support drunk driving extremely offensive. Honestly where do you get off posting that? Way out of line.
  11. It had all the makings of a legendary thread. A vanity capper, turning pro, this doogie howser sort of story where this 16 year old kid was running a corporation, yuge money matches at $10 munis, rounds under par from the tips at bethpage, swing videos, and Thrillhouse. I know what you're thinking, "but thrillhouse, did he have a towel clipped to his belt?" sadly the swing videos didn't show enough for us to see. Ah I remember when I first joined this site. I believe my first post was about turning pro. Man some users were ready to rip me for it haha. Little did I know how many threads like that get made Lol it depends on what you say. I've always been supportive of "I'm a college player about to graduate ready to give it a go" threads. I'm less supportive of "I'm a 6 handicap and I don't like my job selling insurance, what do I need to shoot at the muni to make a go of it" threads. Always fun though!
  12. yes you did Jeff.. it was full of cheesy Canadians.... lol ( i kid i kid ) let me be the first to say that the troll got me.... and i appologize to all who i may have offended.... the home story hit home with me personally and i let it cloud my judgement ... i promise to crucify any and all future trolls .... so let it be written, so let it be done !!! I actually never saw your original posts, but I wouldn't have been offended if any of that was directed at me. We've known each other on here long enough that I've seen your posts about your hardships as a kid so as soon as I saw the edited posts I knew where you were coming from. And now back to your regularly scheduled programming. "Thrillhouse, did he have iron covers and Miura baby blades?" Sadly no, PSIs, and not the TPs either which led to the OP comparing himself to KJ Choi because they "both use shovels and both can sauce it".
  13. It had all the makings of a legendary thread. A vanity capper, turning pro, this doogie howser sort of story where this 16 year old kid was running a corporation, yuge money matches at $10 munis, rounds under par from the tips at bethpage, swing videos, and Thrillhouse. I know what you're thinking, "but thrillhouse, did he have a towel clipped to his belt?" sadly the swing videos didn't show enough for us to see.
  14. Iteach is getting no love in this thread! You guys know he played some mini tour stuff for a while right? He's pretty good he'd hold his own.
  15. Does anyone have an explanation for why UK private clubs allow public play? It's so common there must be a reason (beyond some courses being on public land as stated above).
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