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  1. I think the Epic Speed or Epic Speed TD will have the shape and sound more closely similar to the GBB Epic SZ. I switched from Flash SZ to speed and couldn’t be happier. A little longer (playing it lower loft setting than my Flash SZ) with a terrific sound.
  2. These responses tell you everything- you will have to test for yourself. I was late to test because I was happy with my Flash SZ (except sound). Had shop credit from a tournament win and decided to test the drivers to see if I found one I liked sound better. Went into thinking I wanted the Max LS. Would have ordered the Max LS first to test if I wasn’t fitting and I left 1000% ordering the Epic Speed. The shape, sound and performance (for me) was much better. I didn’t care personally for the Max LS
  3. Good point. Whether it’s this or something else it’s sort of hard/harder to pinpoint initially in my opinion if a MB is right for an elite striker right out of the gate. Could be something so minuscule that doesn’t show up in initial testing but over time on the course if the ball isn’t doing what the elite player is expecting than they will switch back into something that they think they trust better. Another point is that a tour pro fears adjusting their swing to a golf club. They know that if something is off on a club they’ll make adjustments to compensate naturally that they don
  4. Way late to the party testing these because I’ve been happy with my Epic Flash Sub Zero (except the sound) but shop credit speaks… I really wanted the Max LS to be the choice for me based on the idea of it and it’s a good head but it was definitely the Speed for me. I prefer the shape at address of the Speed and the sound a bit better. The sound compared to my Flash SZ - sold on the spot! My Flash Sub Zero (with Hzrdus Yellow HC) is set at +1 Draw setting for best results. In the Speed I ended up in the -1 Neutral cog setting and hitting flatter bombs (for me). Only got
  5. I have the exact same combo setup ‘18 Apex MBs and ‘16 Apex Pros (that were originally a full set). I ended up going into the ‘18 Apex Pros in the 5-7i because I was struggling with gapping at the 5i with the ‘16 model (to the point I had gotten a CF16 5i and weakened it). The ‘16 Apex Pro model definitely transitions smoother as it’s more blade line than the ‘18 but I actually have gotten to like the cup face and slightly more forgiveness with the ‘18 model. The 2018 Apex MBs are just a joy to hit! One of the best and most “forgiving” blades I’ve ever hit. I could easily game the 7i
  6. At some point most all golfers reach a point of what is essentially “law of diminishing returns”. The point where a certain amount of loft and length in a certain club head design no longer produces more reliable yardage- especially with the right trajectory, peak height and spin. For Justin Thomas that might be the 3i in his Titleist MBs. Doesn’t mean he can’t hit a 3i it means that consistently he gets better results (compared to his 4i) with a different model head. For most amateur players that is likely somewhere between 4i and 6/7i depending on club model. At that point it’s wor
  7. The Toulon Odyssey Chicago is not face balanced but it has minimal toe hang. Much less than most blades. It’s slightly wider than the Odyssey 1 or Newport but it’s by no means a double wide either. It’s a great looking blade that could give you what you’re looking for.
  8. Great topic. With combo sets becoming more and more popular the industry may have to adapt but it won’t be easy. There is no real good way for the average golfer to truly “fit” all 14 clubs in their bag. I doubt that golf retailers or fitters like Club Champion will ever reasonably offer multiple fitting heads (5, 7, PW for example) just to the expense and increased time. You sort of have to do it trial and error over time. What iron or loft do you start to lose ball speed or proper gaps on the long side. Decide what you like to look at in the short irons and just go from t
  9. For a equipment junkie site not enough (or that I’ve seen) has been talked about on the incredible equipment strategy he used here to help get this done. I mean how crazy was this driver setup… Essentially he had an 11 degree mini-driver (a circa mid-90s driver) for the majority of his tee balls. Then he came in here with a 48” long (3” longer than tour avg driver length) at 5.5 or 6 degrees for when he absolutely needed to let one go (like 16 yesterday). I mean think about the talent to swing a 48” 6 degree driver effectively in major championship golf conditions. Crazy!! B
  10. It’s a really good point, especially looking back broadly compared to Nelson and Hogan but I’d say Snead was clearly the best for a period of maybe 1947-1951(ish). That’s half a decade. It’s not his fault Nelson retired so early. Or that Hogan had a car accident or was a late bloomer in the majors. Nelson was clearly the best in the early to mid 1940s but you have the WWII debate. But he was the best hands down. Hogan was absolutely the best in the early 1950s. Snead in the middle plus the longevity he had makes me say a great of an era. I guess it will just sort of depend on what an
  11. I get the charts Point but it’s kind of stupid. I wish they’d draw some type of era line in golf. I mean mentioning that Walter Hagen or Tommy Armour are “missing” the Masters (a tournament that didn’t exist) is just sort of silly. I accept Nelson “missing” the Open because he could have gone over and played as Hogan did (once) but it was different back then. None of it is the same as Snead or Mickelson missing the US Open because they played in like almost all of them for decades. I think that’s what makes golf historical debate so much fun is all the nuances of the circum
  12. Good fun topic. As others have stated it’s really not fair at all to compare the Jones/Hagan era to the modern one in terms of “counting majors” even going up into the 1950s. Ben Hogan played in ONE Open Championship and won it. Arnold Palmer was the one who got more Americans going back over. Palmer was also responsible for the media’s new interest in the “grand slam” in 1960 after winning the Masters and US Open. Hagan and Jones definitely deserve more “majors” than are counted. The Western Open was absolutely one of the 3 biggest tournament for those guys with the US Open and PGA
  13. Im also considering a Mevo+ so I can practice and dial in wedges some at home. Here are my thoughts based mostly on your question #2... Without a range at your club I would think this would be an excellent investment and essentially create a range at home. Because this device has spin axis, etc. you can simulate ball flight and again essentially have a range. You’ll also get better at understanding your true carry numbers on both solid strikes and mishits which is helpful. in terms of “working on your swing” I personally don’t think this is doable without the more expensi
  14. I will second these Cleveland Huntington Beach series putters are very underrated. I have the “Rossie” style (can’t remember the number) in my sons bag and it’s a quality feeling putter. I’d argue much more quality feeling than the regular Odyssey’s or Taylor Made putters in most stores. The face milling is at least on mine is super soft.
  15. Crazy I have the Atlanta in H7 and Las Vegas (albeit it double bend) and the Atlanta is softer off the face for me. Don’t know if it makes a difference but I have the Atlanta before they milled the entire face and the newer Vegas. Atlanta is softer. In fact I have 4 Toulon putters. Atlanta and Chicago are the softest and my favorite feeling. Vegas and Indianapolis are slightly firmer and very stable.
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