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  1. I think every companies effort when going into cup face/hollow/foam/sphere is a bit different as well. Some will worry more about feel, some are concerned with taking off as much spin as possible to increase distance and most are somewhere in the middle. The big irons in this area I have tried are Cobra, Cally Pro, Sub 70, P770, PXG, P790, T200, Mizuno, i500. This is how they rated for me as far as highest spin to lowest spin. Now granted, these were not all tested on the same day, so there will be swing day variances. I am also not saying there was 1000k RPM difference from
  2. I am not sure but I believe the infringement for Ping's TR grooves was against EVNROLL and they settled. I am not sure where I read this, or heard it. It may have been in an in person conversation with Guerin or via email with him awhile back, or I may have heard it from someone on here. I remember this either way though.
  3. Grooves in and of themselves when worn out you see more of an issue with shots from the rough, or with dew on the ground. Roughness of the face is more of a culprit for chips and shots from the fairway. Sure, the sharpness of the grooves does make a change, but it's not huge. Grooves were designed to get water and grass from staying in between the ball and the clubface more than they were to create spin in and of themselves. The Ping Square groove lawsuit wasn't about spinning the ball too much from the fairway, it was Mark Calcavechia(sp?) hitting a shot from the dee
  4. YOu cannot compare your 7 iron to that of a PGA tour player and look to have the same decent angles or spin rates. Your iron may say 7 on the bottom, but chances are it is 6 degrees stronger maybe more than many of the PGA tour players. The average PGA Tour player hits a 7 iron 172 yards, over 7k of spin and with a 50* descent angle. What you do not know for sure is what loft is on their 7 iron. However, an educated guess is that they are around 36* of loft. The T300 7 iron is 29*, which is probably the same as their 5 iron. Their 5 iron has 5300k of spin and comes in at close
  5. I have played Cleveland wedges since High School. I have tried Vokey's, Cally, TM, BStone, Mizuno, and some others. I always end up back with Clevelands. Most of the trialing I did was during the RTX 3. I was not a fan of the shape. Something about how the hosel blended into the head I didn't like. The RTx4 and CBx 2 are excellent wedges and I love them. I have heard nothing but good on the Zip Core, although I have not looked to replace my current wedges, because I liked them so much I have a couple of back ups for the mid and higher lofts.
  6. Sound and feel are subjective, I have only hit one EVNRL that felt hard, and that after talking with Guerin was the bar of metal and how the grain was aligned when milling that caused that problem and was fixed after the first year of release. Yes how the grain is aligned when milling a putter can influence sound/feel/vibration. Guerin doesn't pay players either, which is the biggest downside. He didn't used to have a PGA Tour presence for the first couple of years either, he may now, I haven't talked to him in at least three years about that.
  7. In the past 20+ years I have been a +3 to a 5, wrist surgery for the 5 part. I am playing a 50 and 56 CBX2. I will start by saying I play all of my wedges long (1/4 gaps down from the 7 and 1/4 gaps up from the 7 as well and PW down are the same length) I have no issues with lightness or anything else. No distance issues, and no hot feeling off the face. The 50* is just absolutely money, full shots, cut shots, chipping around the green all are great. The 56* I am having some issues with. It is great for full shots and even 3/4 cut or knock down shots. Not a huge fan of the
  8. 1. You will lose distance with blades - BUSTED - FOR YOU. Everyone is different. On a solid strike, with like for like lofts against a standard CB iron, distance should be the same or very close. Increased spin with the MB, can decrease distance for some players. 2. Blades are more punishing than cavity backs - SEMI-BUSTED - Not even close to busted, not even FOR YOU. When hit off center the same amount the MB will go shorter than a CB. This has been proven time and again. If the hazards at your course are all short of the green your scores will go up. 3. You need
  9. The shaft in and of itself is the worst place to try and change ball flight. With a robot, soft stepping will change loft and spin very negligibly. You are not a robot so shaft and making changes can change how you deliver the clubhead so it can change, but this is very different for each person. I have seen two people with roughly the same swing speed both hitting the same club. One when we put in a low/low shaft, his launch and spin actually went up. The original shaft was classified as a mid/mid. The other guy to get a smidge lower flight and lower spin. This is a similar
  10. I have tried a lot of different types of face milling from my time owning a putter company. However attached is my favorite so far.
  11. Was that the dopinder making my own putter thread? I think that was his name, or something similar.
  12. I am a pretty high spin and high swing speed player. Yet if I didn't keep the grooves spotless I could get the occasional slight "flyer" from the first cut/fluffy fairways or in the morning with dew on the grass. Out of the rough they were very likely to produce a flyer most of the time. So due to the fact that I hit many balls in the rough my scores suffered a bit due to distance control issues. Cobra and P770 were not nearly as low spin as say the i500 and P790 for me. In the end I went back to something similar with the i210s.
  13. Every putter manufacturer is different. In general, flow necks are shorter, slant necks are longer and have more offset. Do manufacturers and custom makers have flows that are super long? Absolutely. Are their putters that the slant necks are shorter? Once again absolutely. The longer a neck is the closer the center line extension of the shaft is pointing to the middle of the head. The shafts angle(or where it points on the head if the line is extended beyond the shaft to see where it would intersect with the head) is the major factor in determining toe hang. A
  14. My post came of a tad bit wrong on the feel department. What I meant was if two clubs are the same on performance and looks of course you buy the one that feels better. What you don't do is rate feel high like spin, dispersion, or decent angle. Feel is the final factor if all else is the same. Lets say you hit iron P really well, dispersion is on point(percentages are different for each person), spin with lets say a 7 iron is 6800, decent angle is 50* and feel is a 6 out of 10. Iron M is a little worse on dispersion, spin is down around 6300, decent angle is 45*, but feel is a
  15. Not the answer you are looking for, but everyone is different and responds to different settings in different ways. Some people can swing all manners of different flex shafts very similar as long as the weight and balance points are the same, and some people are more flex dependent and less with weight. From a robot point of view, choking up (effectively shortening the shaft) makes a club more upright. So that could be it. Also drivers are rarely hit off the deck so there is little if any turf interaction to worry about. His normal impact location, path and face angle dictate th
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