Hackinator

Lol... I am speechless!

I've been trying to do this is as "1" move and keep everything seamless, but it is tough. It kind of feel likes 2 moves stitched together. But I hope w/ repetition everything blends together at some point and its just 1 fluid swing. I realize now, I have been coming over plane for a long time, and also been too steep. But trying to reverse years of steepness is hard to overcome. However been monitoring club position in mirror and getting to P6 seems give me that shallow approach I need. Shawn Clement uses battering ram analogy to nail the point.

Did you ever figure out this P6 position? Curious because this is the same position I have been trying to get to lately. Shawn Clement has good analogy of feeling like you are using a battering ram to smash open a door. Been trying to do this, and it feels like I am taking the butt of club and send it just in front of my right thigh. Then zipping the clubhead thru impact.

Played in a tourney today, and actually played solid and even won $$$. I looked back and someone mentioned to grip the shaft where the hands naturally want to go. This is such an incredibly simple idea, but it seemed to work. Hard to explain but I sort of put the hands on the club where they naturally rest. Not sure if they were technically neutral grip or not. Because I was gripping where the hands where they naturally settled, I noticed I was letting the arms hang loose as well (nearly no tension in the arms). Sometimes I can sense a lot tension in my arms... but not today. So I was really swinging with loose feeling arms. This made such a huge difference. I had about 8 or 9 GIR, which is really good for me. I usually choke in tourneys, but I was able to maintain steady play today, and I do think the grip and loose arms was the difference.

True.. To your point maybe I need to try to strengthen right hand grip and also get right elbow working better. Maybe the strong grip will neautralize the open face that happens with right wrist bent back.

I think so. My right elbow sometimes get too high and above my left arm on downswing. This is one of the things I changed by using my right arm and driving right arm with bent back right wrist. I think this move got rid of hook but now I am missing right..lol

I did try the stronger grip... and was hooking the driver. Typically the clubs that cause me hooking issues are the longer shafted clubs. I do pretty well with the short to mid irons.

I am fine with a high fade, but I am not getting the baby fade.. and some of the fades are curving way too much. Along with the more neutral right hand grip, I've been trying to keep the right wrist bent back longer now and maintain pressure on trigger finger. So essentially I've reversed my shot shape just by using right hand differently. My draws/hooks seem like they completely disappeared. I feel I am coming into the impact, with more of bent right arm condition so I want to keep this motion. Just trying to maintain the right wrist bent back, seems to make the right elbow work better. But what is now hurting me is the big fade, or maybe technically its slice. I feels I am making good centered contact but its curving way too much the right.

The saga continues.... I watched about 10 videos on the right hand placement + trigger finger. Got my right hand into a position with index finger on side so it can be used as a trigger finger. Life line of right hand over left thumb. So right hand feels more on top. Let me tell you , after changing the right hand, I feel like this was day 1 of playing golf. I feel like I have to drive my right arm forward now to make it work, where as before I was more of left arm swinger. My shot pattern is different now, as I am noticing many more high fades. This game will never cease to amaze you. It just dawned on me, this new movement almost feels like taking a slapshot in hockey.

In my pursuit of finding my hook issues with driver I was looking at 1) grip (is it too strong?) 2) swing plane (too much inside-out?) 3) face closing too quickly (why the heck are my wrists turning over so fast) Well, I believe I finally found the root issue.. which is .. 4) Body stall Not sure why, but specifically with driver, I am stalling the body and throwing the arms. I had to really concentrate on rotating the torso fully and continuously from the top of my backswing. This got rid of the "severe" hooks that were killing me. I pray to the good Lord above that this fix is the real deal .. The feel I am using from the top of the backswing, is "heaving a heavy bag of sand towards target", this has my torso really engaged.

I grab the club like I was grabbing an umbrella. This tip provided by Shawn Clement grip video. So its more in the fingers, and the heel pad (not thumbpad) is supporting the shaft.

Thanks to everyone who has tried to help me. I went and reread some of the posts again. As I've been obsessing with the left hand on the grip, I have noticed at times my right hand does sometimes want to slide a bit underneath the shaft. Probably just enough, so it gives me a leverage position with the hands. With driver I use my hands as a speed producer and throw the clubhead especially when seeking more distance. With irons, I have a more of a finesse swing, and hands are doing less. I probably should focus on getting an the iron swing tempo into my driver. And use the pivot more and hands less. Unfortunately my CAVEMAN instinct really wants me to use my hands to sling that club hard once it comes into the hitting area, but will fight that instinct and let pivot do the slinging. Thanks again, as I continue to work on this.

I found this bit of information on trackman blog. So does this mean a 40 yard hook is created when there is a 10 deg difference between face and path? So if my FACE is 2 deg open (because usually starts right a little.. does than mean my PATH is 12 degrees open? Giving me the 10 degree difference? For those trackman people out there, I am doing the math correctly ? Below is visual representation of of the hook... It tails off a lot at the end.

I found this bit of information on trackman blog. So does this mean a 40 yard hook is created when there is a 10 deg difference between face and path? So if my FACE is 2 deg open (because usually starts right a little.. does than mean my PATH is 12 degrees open? Giving me the 10 degree difference? For those trackman people out there, I am doing the math correctly ? Below is visual representation of of the hook... It tails off a lot at the end.