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  1. I am surprised you can get a time for $225, unless it is twilight, in which case you are not guaranteed 18 holes. Course is scenic, usually in great condition, and has some memorable holes. I think $225 is pretty good value, considering an average course will be at least $125-$150 range. FWIW, I prefer Pinnacle over Monument.
  2. For yo For your group, I’d go with Papago. Better vibe. Fun to play ASU course. And one of the best after round spots to hang. Personally, I like the course much better too.
  3. Cornonado on Miller and McDowell. Lights and grass. Only accepts cash.
  4. I walked Talon once. It was hot out but doable. The walk around 17 sucks since it is an island green and toward the end of the round. Some up and down but not too bad.
  5. Reviving this thread to share some recent information I learned. A "Golf House" is going to be built on or near the 18th hole green at Papago this summer. It will be the home of the AGA, SWPGA, JGAA, and other related golf organizations. Consequently, the 18th and 9th greens at Papago will be moved. The 18th will be moved to the south and sounds like it will shorten the hole. The 9th will be moved east further behind the pond. The 1st and 10th tees will need to be moved as well. During construction, the course will have some temporary greens, but I have not seen any designs. Over the courses of 5 years, Papago will have gone from a modular trailer, to 4 separate buildings on site, including ASU's private practice facility (which looks sick but never been invited back there). I suppose this is the product of a developing city/state, but it is a little disappointing to be constructing another building at Papago with questionable benefit to the residents of Phoenix. Although I really like Papago, tee times are becoming more and more scarce every year, and I imagine this won't help. It also seems like there is ample commercial real estate along 52nd street, but I am guessing the public land will be "donated" for this project.
  6. Papago was pure yesterday. Greens were firm and rolling at a very nice speed. Everything came in great after the overseed. Was only in 1 bunker, but they all looked in better shape than 3-4 months ago. POP was 4:25 for first group out in the men's league.
  7. Exactly. Almost impossible to get times during the weekends. Best bet is to join a couple men's groups and sign up early for the tournaments.
  8. Troon is a better course but TPC for the experience. Can’t go wrong with either choice!
  9. Aguila is great after overseed. Really no issues at all. Greens were quick and smooth.
  10. Grayhawk White Tee is almost $1100 this year. You get two free rounds. https://grayhawkgolf.com/golf-overview/white-tee/
  11. I think I was reading from 2021. ‘22 is not out yet.
  12. I had the White Tee several years ago. If you want to play Grayhawk a lot in the winter, it has good value compared to the "rack rate." I think there was maybe a 9 hole tournament, but nothing consistent. They used to offer 4 free rounds with purchase, but now down to 2.
  13. If you play there a bunch, it probably makes good sense. I'd guess high rate would be around $75 in the peak winter with the card, but just an educated guess. The website shows it is already sold out.
  14. General rule is to avoid overseeded courses for 2-4 weeks after they open. This year may be different (better or worse) given all the rain we had this summer. The courses will look lush, but won’t have great playability. They also tend to be slow due to CPO. Troon North and Boulders both have bent grass greens so those will be better options, but also only the very high end for prices.
  15. Likely everything else in life, depends on budget and location. For my money, the City of Phoenix card is the best deal around with significantly reduced rates at Papago, GCU, and Aguila, especially if you want to walk. Beyond that, it comes down to personal preference. If you want to play a bunch of higher end courses, Troon Card is probably the way to go. 2-for-1 deals can only be booked a couple days in advance. Grayhawk WhiteTee and We Ko Pass both provide great benefits to high end courses, but I think it is tough to get tee times during peak season. I guess if there is a particular course you really like, then the loyalty cards will pay for itself. Places like Legacy, Raven, Longbow, Dobson Ranch, McCormick come to mind. Over the last 5 years, the loyalty card business has worsened for locals in my opinion. For example, We Ko Pa is now $139 peak winter rates, when it was just north of a $100 not long ago. Grayhawk White Tee has gone up in price significantly. But it seems like the cards get bought up and sold out in some instances. One final factor is flexibility. If you are okay with booking a last minute time for a single or can play more during the week, these cards provide pretty good benefits. But if you want a consistent foursome on a weekend, the value starts to seriously decline.
  16. Are you local or from out of town?
  17. Solid lineup. There is a par 3 at WR that is a fun add one if you have time.
  18. Never stayed there but heard it’s a nice spot. Might also check out the boulders if you want to be in Carefree.
  19. Agree. The course is fine, and maybe worth playing once, but lots of spots within 30 minutes that you will enjoy more. (We Ko Pa, Grayhawk, and even Papago for something really close)
  20. Here is the schedule https://www.azgolf.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2021/09/2021-Overseed-Schedule.pdf
  21. Sorry man wish I could help but we’ve got a full house with a toddler
  22. Check out this thread. I’d check out Phoenician, Montelucia, or Sanctuary. Can’t really go wrong with any of those spots right next to Camelback Mountain. Happy to give you recs for food or spas. .
  23. Should be enough time to play Papago, Legacy, or Raven. 30 minutes to get stuff, 20 min Uber time, 5 hours at course, 20 min ride back, 30 to drop off stuff and get to gate.
  24. Aguila greens were bumpy and grainy yesterday but not sure if they were mowed after rain. Course drained very well. I’d think the greens should be recovered in 8-10 days.
  25. Agree with this. It is much improved from where it was 4-5 weeks ago.
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