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  1. 4 hours ago, Howard_Jones said:

    i forgot one important thing, how to SEE if Total weight has become too high.

    Let your club fitter friend help you here, its his EYES we need...(and he will learn something)
    You should take a "one arm back hand stroke", just like a tennis stroke using your left arm only.
    Support the club to the top with 2 fingers from your right hand, but from the top and down, its the left hand only. IF total weight is too high, there will be a VISIBLE DROP in your left shoulder just before the bottom of the swing (like 7 o clock seen from the front).

    IF that drop is visible, dial back on total weight. The issue during play will be that we need support of the right hand to prevent a fat shot if total wgt is too high, so we "tighten" the grip to hold back the club, and that will reduce club speed, and reduce the right arms ability to do the most important job it has, control of face angle.

    Good luck with testing, and tell us how it turned out.

    Thanks again and will do. 

  2. 32 minutes ago, Howard_Jones said:

    Without seeing you swing that shaft, its hard for me to tell if its right for you or not, and launch angle alone tells noting, you should add  both spin, apex and descent datas, and if that launch angle was indoor from mats, launch is probably to low.

    Your issue with the Elevate 95 could be as simple as too low head weight, and maybe total wgt (shaft wgt) is lower that it should have been, but my suggestion is that you get a roll of lead tape, and go to the range and try this.

    Start by adding a few stripes of lead tape to the heads. Never mind how much that weight, just add a little at the time, hit a few balls and keep moving in that direction until you feel its to much, and dial back a little. A fast transition is in my book, "not that good" and might cause lots of issues, but more head weight and resistance at the top can help you to smooth out that a little.

    IF you get to 7-8 grams without "solving the issue", with the thin ones, or if the clubs "balance"* dont feel right, you should "simulate" a higher shaft weight, by the same method we used for head weight, now like this.

    * Balance is just my expression or term for how good you are able to FEEL both head and shaft. At the top of the swing, its feedback of shaft weight who tells us when we should turn the club. If feedback of shaft weight is too low, a typical symptom of that is over swinging, where we dont notice that we are at the top before we can feel that the head is on its way down.

    Here is how you can manipulate shaft wgt to find whats right for you.
    Find the approximate middle of your shaft, and set a mark at that spot with a sharpie. Measure up about 10 grams of lead tape, and distribute it both ways from the MID mark in head to grip direction on the under side of the shaft.

    Start testing again. This time with NO lead tape on the heads, ONLY the shaft, and after a few balls, start adding lead tape to the heads again like the first test. if you get up to 7-8 grams of added head weight again, and it still dont feel right or works good, add 5 grams extra at the time to the shaft.

    This way we can dial in what shaft and head weight that works the best.

    The reason for why the LZ worked better can be the higher total weight. Total wgt pulls the club down and out during the swing, and thats why the thin ones improved, but you might be better off with a lighter option, and by following the test above, you will be able to find what works the best without changing shafts, so you know for sure where to go.

    Since its fully legal to play with lead tape both on the heads and shafts, this also give you the option to play a full round of golf with it, so you can judge if you have gone to high on weight, and get drained for energy and start to do mistakes before the round is over.

    PX LS was not designed for a player like you, but it dont mean they dont work, but im afraid you are "solving" a weight issue, but not like it should, and ends up with a shaft both too heavy and too stiff, so try off with lead tape, and you will for sure find whats working the best for you before you make a decision of what to do.

    Thank you so much!!! I will definitely give this a try. I posted what numbers I could remember in my response above. It’s very much a feel thing. When I’m in sync I love my current setup because my swing speed is higher. But when out of sync it’s just so hard to feel much of anything. The club just feels so light to me. And when I start fearing the left miss bad things happen. When I compared these two yesterday consistency of strike was way better with the LS. 

    Thanks again for the advice!

  3. 33 minutes ago, MattC555 said:

    What were the rest of the numbers?  Was the ball still spinning?  Did the ball fly high enough?  At your speed I wouldn't be concerned about using a 120 gram shaft.  Were you fit into the TT Elevate 95 shafts?

    I normally take screenshots of my numbers but forgot to yesterday. I’m almost positive my spin rates with the LS/790 setup were in that 5500-5700 range which was about 200 rpms less than my Elevate/Apex irons. My carry distances with the LS were 155-160. Around 5 yards less than my irons. I don’t remember peak height but definitely lower than mine with descent angle with the LS being around 43-44 degrees. On course I feel like my current irons fly too high. I was fit into my current irons by a reputable fitter and we play a lot of rounds together. I’m a 6 handicap so it’s not like I’m playing terrible. I just have a hard time “feeling” this current iron set up on the course. If I go after one it’s left and then I try to back off a little and can hit wipey fades because I’m not a good enough ball striker to adjust swing speed/tempo. I think indoors with repeated swings I can start to feel what the shaft does so I make the adjustment but on the course when I’m not hitting iron after iron, inconsistencies creep in. 

  4. I am currently playing Callaway Apex 2019 irons with TT Elevate 95 shafts. I’ve been super inconsistent with them lately hitting a lot of shots thin and having a big left miss if I really go after it. I got on a launch monitor yesterday and my ball speed with my 7 iron is in that 110-115 range. I was launching my 7 iron at 21-22 degrees. My driver swing speed hovers around 100-103. I tried the new P790’s with the project x ls 6.0 shaft and I loved the heavier feel at least indoors. My launch came down to 18-19 degrees. My ball speed was still in that 110-112 range with a 7 iron. I can’t swing it as fast as the Elevate shaft but my dispersion was better. I am a quick transition player but I feel like I might regret having a 120 gram shaft that’s as stout as this one is supposed to be. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this? Thanks!

  5. On 5/17/2021 at 3:03 PM, brew4eagle said:

    Here's my next attempt at the perfect bag.  Back to a 2021 2.5+, but took off the double strap and replaced with the Sun Mtn universal single strap.  My plan would be to use this for a minimalist 8 club setup (D, 3h, 5i, 7i, 9i, 52, 58, P).  The single strap is very nice and padded, and has built in segments that makes it flex.  The stock double strap is impossible to get a good balance with a half set of clubs as there isn't enough weight at the top of the bag since there are way fewer club heads.  The single strap solves this very nicely and it's so easy to just slip it on and go.  No need to fumble with getting the left arm in the double strap and not necessary since it's so light with 8 clubs.


    The big catch is that this is very expensive for a part time setup.  I'll be loading up with the full set to try it out later, but I think the double strap would be the way to go there, and then I'd switch over to the Hoofer Lite.  A pricey solution, but why not.




    Love the look of that setup. Your head covers look sweet with the navy! Hope it works well for you. 

  6. 8 hours ago, EagleCity said:

    Just picked up a navy ‘21 Players 4. Haven’t gotten out on the course with it yet, but one slight annoyance I’m finding is that the apparel pocket is getting caught in the leg when I pick up the bag and the stand retracts. I’ll try to post a photo tomorrow- I had something similar happen with a Sun Mountain 3.5ls I had a few years ago. 

    Anyone else notice this?

    Same thing happened to me. Just like my old SM 3.5. If you can live with the pocket getting caught in the leg I think the 3.5 is a far better bag assuming you don’t mind the looks of a SM. It drove me crazy with both bags so I switched to a Hoofer Lite. 

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  7. 12 hours ago, Jc0 said:


    How do you like it vs the carbon. I just picked up the carbon and love how light it is but the lack of a good way to hold my range finder is driving me nuts. Pockets also seem smaller than they look when actually using them. For me weight is important so trying to determine if it's worth the extra pound.

    I like the Carbon better. I don’t carry a lot of gear so the pocket sizes of the Carbon didn’t bother me. I hung my range finder off the towel ring on the Carbon. I think the top and divider sizes were nearly identical but it’s been a while since I used the Carbon so I can’t be sure about that. I actually moved from the Players 4 to a Hoofer Lite. Players 4 just seems to be stuck in no mans land. Not a super light carry bag, but not a lot of storage/room either. Hope this helps. 

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  8. 23 minutes ago, brew4eagle said:

    I ended up sticking with the Hoofer Lite and returned the 2.5+

    I’ve tried just about every bag that’s been discussed in this thread. I used my navy Titleist Players 4 bag for one round and returned it. It’s been a few years since I last used a Hoofer or Hoofer Lite because I remembered the club tangle being rough. Because of some of your posts I ended up buying the Mr. Ping Hoofer Lite and played my first round with it today. The bag is great. It’s so well balanced. Just so easy to carry. I forgot how much bigger the top is compared to some other bags discussed in this thread. Pocket layout is perfect for my needs. Club tangle is easily managed if you put the clubs in while the bag is straight upright. So glad I went back to Ping. Thanks for the opinions you’ve posted in this thread. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, mmccormi223 said:

    Longtime lurker of this glorious thread. I'm in the market for a new bag as all I currently have is a 2020 Ping Moonlite and need a stand bag for those wet dewy mornings and occasional cart rides. I've owned just about every bag - including: 2018 2.5+, 2019 3.5LS, 2020 2.5+, Stitch SL1, Linksouldier Stand Bag, Ogio Shadow Fuse 304, Ogio Fuse 4, and many older Sun Mountain bags. 


    I'm seriously considering the Mizuno K1-LO and worried about it's long-term durability. I like the weight and look, but it feels so dainty that I'm leery of how it will hold up after a couple seasons. Ultimately I want a bag that's a light carry and is good for the occasional push or riding cart when playing 36. Is the K1-LO the bag, or are there other bags I'm overlooking?



    I had the K1-LO bag the year before last I think.  That bag gets a lot of things right but the one I had was way too flimsy for the number of rounds I play.  The zipper on the ball pocket ended up breaking because I tried to close it quickly with one hand and the zipper is just not that durable. Also, that material was so thin I worried a tee would poke a hole in it. I agree with @brew4eagle

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  10. 5 hours ago, geesecougar2 said:


    Bag looks great! What is the material, is it similar to last year's Players 4? Is it a material that you think would be easily stainable in white?

    Thanks. I’m not familiar with the material of last year’s Players 4 but it definitely feels more durable than the material in last years Titleist Carbon bag I used.  This feels more solid than the “tent like” material used in some other bags. If I had to guess I think white would easily stain. There’s a texture to the material and I can see dirt getting in there and I think it would be tough to keep clean. 

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  11. I had this driver cover and was not a fan but it might be what you’re looking for. I think I was playing a callaway rogue driver at the time and it was kind of slim but very stretchy to fit over the driver head. That’s what I didn’t like about it. It was so stretched that it fit super tight and basically took on the shape of the driver head. With the big Pom I wasn’t a fan of the look. Definitely quality construction though. I still have the FW cover that I never used. If you want to see what that’s like before buying the driver cover send me a message. I’d be happy to send it to you.  I’m not using it anyway. 

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  12. Just got the Players 4 in Navy and I’m happy with it. The top is not the biggest but I played a lot of last year with the Carbon with no issues. It’s mainly the driver section that’s tight because I put my putter in that section as well. Otherwise impressed. All the pockets I need including the pocket above the ball pocket I use for tees. Didn’t realize the range finder pocket was magnetic so that’s good. Straps feel good as well. Happy to answer any questions. 



  13. 46 minutes ago, BallerNate said:

    Ok, thanks. Unfortunately that’s what I figured. Been messing around with it for the last 2 days trying to figure out a way to avoid that situation and couldn’t find a solution.


    The only thing that worked is to collapse the legs by tilting the bag into an upright position before lifting the strap. But obviously that would be extremely tedious during a round.


    Returned it before the store closed and am trying out the TM FlexTech instead now.

    Good luck with the TM bag. Hope it works out for you.  

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  14. 9 hours ago, BallerNate said:

    This is a great thread...wish I had found it sooner! I’ve been chasing the best option for a lightweight carry bag too and have bought/sold/returned 5 bags over the last month.


    Right now I’ve got the SM 3.5LS from 2019 which I got a great deal on, but the legs sticking to the side pockets is very noticeable after a couple of days.


    Has anyone found a solution for this, or is it just deal with it or return it and get a different bag?

    The only thing that kind of worked for me was to have some gear in the apparel pocket. It seemed to pull the pocket away from the bag a little and helped with the leg issue. In my opinion, that defeated the purpose of having a lightweight carry bag so I got rid of it.  Too bad because I think it’s a great bag but for that issue. 

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