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  1. Thanks. All of my searches never turned up this rule but found rules about balls hitting other balls (knowing the words to search rules sometimes is tough). The situation today would have been very certain. Group A (group hitting the ball) all saw the ball at rest. Group B (middle group) all saw a player not in Group A hit a ball from that general area. One of the coaches (this was a high school tournament) asked the player who hit the ball if they identified it before playing, and the player confirmed he did not. I'm glad we got the rule right for that one.
  2. This did not actually happen to me, but has happened to one of my daughters and another girl today in a high school round. Instance one (my daughter): Drive at the edge of the fairway. While waiting on playing partners to hit their second shot, another group of players come into the fairway, do not identify the ball, and hit it. By the time my daughter gets up there, ball has already been hit and no where to be found. Everyone knew where the ball was. Played it as lost ball rule, went back to the tee box. Instance two (today): Second shot on par 5 into parallel fairway. Another player on that hole hits the ball without identifying it into a creek. Everyone saw the ball at rest, another group confirmed someone hit from that spot. How do the rules protect players in instances like this? Seems harsh to penalize a player for something they did not do against the rules.
  3. I apologize if this has already been asked, but when I search, I cannot find what I am looking for. A couple of questions about AJGA: For Preview Series events, do you have to join AJGA fully to participate in those?For Open events where you attempt to qualify in, if you do qualify, do you then also have to pay the full tournament fee?A friend of mine and I were discussing this the other day as we look to get our young-ish daughters broader experience and let them see quality junior golfers up close. Just trying to see what all I need to prepare for financially for a few tournaments a year, assuming my daughter has to attempt to qualify.
  4. It was cool reading this, as my oldest daughter is playing in her last USKG local tomorrow (and I'm going to miss it). My oldest started playing in the 10-11 year old division. Her first tournament she shot a 53. It was a beautiful day at a First Tee course, and I was very proud of her. She got 3/4, the first two spots to girls much older and a lot more experienced. This year is the first year I've seen my daughter crack 90 in tournament play. In late may she shot an 80 in a local. A few days later she shot a 91 in a state run event (non USKG from much further distance), and if she putted better would have been top 5-6. I say all of that to say this: Enjoy watching your kids grow through USKG. It is a great on-boarding experience to real competitive golf. Find other opportunities, particularly ones without caddies allowed, and watch them really grow in the game. I have two daughters going through this process and it my absolute favorite thing watching them compete, get better, and just want to improve each time they practice and play.
  5. My two oldest daughters made all-stars last year. My oldest aged out, but my middle has one more year. I asked her if she wanted to play even with no post-season and she said yes. She wanted to finish her last year. Fast forward to this weekend where our club pro said that PGA was suggesting that Jr League be interclub play only, and no league play. Again, just suggesting, not requiring. If that is what it comes to, my middle daughter has decided she would not play.
  6. You sound like where I have been. My daughter is 13. Last fall (just before she turned 13) I almost had her fitted. I talked myself out of it after watching her hit with some ladies irons. She could swing them fine, but it is longer/heavier. Fast forward to now, she has grown 4+ inches since then and is still growing (she has grown 1.5" since March). All this to say, my suggestion is not to get her fit until her growth slows down OR until she outgrows the largest set of US Kids Clubs. My daughter could outgrow hers by fall, at which point I will probably choose to get her fitted and plop down the cash then for new irons.
  7. > @"Long Shot" said: > > @bwbw said: > > What are some opinions on this? My daughters biggest weakness is strength. She's great around the greens, but just does not have the distance. She's still growing, so I know it will get there, but I'm thinking while she's growing this would help her mechanics and help her develop more as she hits full maturity. > > How old is your daughter? I am a proponent of Functional Movement Training for Core Stability and Sport Performance, which the TPI is. My daughter is a highly recruited Lacrosse player and is working with trainers at a facility that uses the TPI type of model, but she trains for lax specific goals and movements (the owner/her trainer actually worked with the guy who developed the TPI model many years ago, and he explained the similarities of his program to the TPI model). Consistency is key, as is understanding the process. Through the movement analysis they will evaluate her weaknesses (in relation to the strength and movements related to the golf swing), as well as her personal goals. Those weaknesses and goals will be become part of her program. > > Keep us updated on the process, and how it goes. Good luck! Sorry I am just now seeing this. She is 13, 5 foot 3 inches, and a whopping 75-ish pounds. Her weakness is in her right side of her body and learning to get the hips rotating in the swing earlier than what they are. I'm hoping they can give her more guidance than I can (I know a fairly large amount about training, but cannot explain to her how to get the two working separately and her actually listen to me). We plan on starting next week. We were going to this week but work for me has kept us from making it there.
  8. Thanks for the feedback, and the link to par4success. I'm keeping that one in my back pocket, but I think we are going to do the TPI training to start. The place that is doing it is very affordable. They charge by the individual class, which is better for us since we live 30 minutes from the facility. They are going to work with us on getting her into a routine and the equipment she would need to continue the workouts locally. My goal will be to get her to class once a week. If that becomes to much of a hassle, definitely looking into par4success!
  9. What are some opinions on this? My daughters biggest weakness is strength. She's great around the greens, but just does not have the distance. She's still growing, so I know it will get there, but I'm thinking while she's growing this would help her mechanics and help her develop more as she hits full maturity.
  10. > @tiger1873 said: > One the first things my kids learned was how to place a ball marker. My opinion if you feel the need to do this your kid should not be playing tournament golf period. What does it take maybe 3 holes if the kid is 6 to learn how to do it correctly. > > When I see parents over caddie their kids it usually means the kid may never move up to higher tournaments that actually matter. The less you help them the better. This has been the biggest thing I learned over the last 12-18 months with my daughters. When I put my oldest in tournaments where she had no caddy, she did fine. I looked back to realize that maybe she needed less of the coaching and just more of the general strategy thoughts. I've learned to listen to my oldest one on course a lot more. Sure, she still has swing faults that we're working through, but she knows different shots she is capable of. This weekend I am probably caddying for her (if the course is playable, again, we have 3"+ of rain just a couple of days before a tournament). My focus with her will be to help her remember her distances with her clubs (new clubs she is hitting longer this year) and keep her moving. She's been a bit more discouraged this year as she is working through a couple of small mechanics issues.
  11. > @Kcct82 said: > USKG local events don’t allow caddies to mark/replace the ball anymore. The first tee official made it very clear when we started playing this season (spring). Can you point to this as a rule? Maybe this is your local tour? This has never been addressed at our level. Edit to say: Even with the USKG local tour card, it states this: Marking & Replacing: Caddies have authorization to mark and replace the player’s ball, where the Rules permit the ball to be lifted. http://www.uskidsgolf.com/sites/default/files/local_hard_card_2019_revision_-_lt_logo.pdf
  12. Again, I'm not saying what our friend is doing is wrong by the rules. It is definitely an odd loophole that I feel hurts the game and the players more than helps. When it first happened, our friend told my wife (who was with my daughter in that age group) that we could do it too. My wife simply replied that my daughter plays enough tours where caddies are not allowed to make it not worth it to do it for her, that we'd rather her learn to read greens and line herself up. Sure, we help our daughters read the green, but we talk about slope, uphill/downhill, and allow them to make a decision about where to putt.
  13. > @kcap said: > Will hurt the long term development of the child but it is allowed within the rules. The caddy is allowed is help in reading the greens and frankly lining up the ball is the easy part...stroke, set up (aligning you body and putter face) is more critical/difficult. > > How old is your friends daughter and what is her experience? I will be surprised if you see such hand holding for a 9-10/older child who has played plenty of tournament golf. > This is in a 10-11 year old division.
  14. We recently had a friend use a rule to his daughter's advantage, and I find it odd. I thought I'd get some discussion around it here. The rule: A caddy may mark, lift, and replace a ball on the green. The caddy can only replace the ball if he is the one to lift it. How it is being used: The caddy is marking, lifting, and lining up the ball on the green for their junior player. Why I find this rule odd: I wrote the USGA about this one. Caddy's are no longer allowed to stand behind a player to line them up at any point, including putting. The spirit of the rule was that alignment is a fundamental skill required of the player. But, I find it odd that the caddy can essentially read the green, set the ball up for their player, and they player does not have to do anything themselves, contrary to the spirit of the rule. To me, it is nearly the same as the caddy standing behind and having them change their stance/line. The only difference is the player has to learn to align themselves to the line on the ball. But even then, the caddy can stand near and help with that alignment, just not behind on the line of the stroke. FYI, I don't do this. My daughters, when I caddy, mark their own ball, read their greens, line themselves up. Eventually I will not be around to help them and I want them doing this on their own. But, our friends do this and verified it was allowed by the USGA rules. I just find it odd (and honestly a long term detriment to the player).
  15. My daughters watched a lot of it and knew the outcome before I did (I shut down my social media/tv until after church when I could get home and watch all on my own). They do not know about Tiger's issues. They were too young to know. Maybe one day they'll learn and they can draw their own conclusions. But I think Tiger's story can teach us all, especially our kids. 1. Our mistakes do not have to define us. We'll all mess up somewhere in life. Some of us, like Tiger, may mess up big time. But that does not me we cannot change who we are. The Tiger of today is different than the Tiger of the 2000's. The media sees it. See it. He has grown up. He allowed his mistakes and past to mold him into who he is today. 2. We'll experience hard times. The test of our character and resolve is how we'll respond to hard times. Will we quit? Will we give up on our dreams? Or will we find a way to work through it? Tiger shows that we can overcome a lot and achieve what we want if we just have the courage to stand up to what we are dealing with and work through it. 3. Be thankful for where you are in life. Tiger's outlook on playing golf is completely different now coming back from everything. Everyone wrote him off. He's just happy to be competing again, and competing well. Be appreciative of the opportunities you are given, and take advantage of them. Enjoy them. You don't know when you'll have a chance like today again.
  16. My oldest daughter has her own goals. I just want to see continual improvement in her game, how she handles things when it goes sideways, and how she works on the things that she struggles with.
  17. My middle daughter is a digger, so playing in mud is hard for her. My oldest is a sweeper who is working on getting a more through and down with irons in particular (she has pretty good height no faster of a swing speed she has). Where it affects my oldest's game is rollout. It leaves her longer than she cares on second shots. I do appreciate everyone's feedback though. It's tough to get them mentally ready to play. Even the better player in our division, who we were paired with on Saturday, hated playing in it and had a much higher score than normal. They all mentally checked out by hole 10 because of conditions. We're friends with this family, so I had to play the encouraging dad role and just encourage everyone to grind it out and wrap it up.
  18. Let me give my opinion as a follow-up to what I said: At locals, a girl who just moves up to age 12 and playing 5,000 yards and 18 holes is a big jump from being 11 and playing 1,900 yards over 9 holes. I'm not talking about the elite or top tier talent, but I am talking about the point of US Kids Local Tours: To grow interest in the game. At Worlds, I have no issue with the length. When my daughter was 11 and played 5,000 yards, I had no problem with this. It is the world level stage after all. But, at the local level, when girls are maturing at different rates (my daughter is 3-6" shorter than most she plays against, and probably weighs 30 pounds less), that jump between being 11 and 12 is huge. My argument is not for shorter Worlds. My opinion is the local tours should be a bit shorter for girls 12. If anything it will teach the longer players to focus on short game, which can only help them in the long run, while giving smaller, less physically developed players, a change to see more GIR's and par attempts without having to take 3 wood or hybrid for every second shot.
  19. Two of three of our US Kids tournaments have been played in horrible conditions. There were very few dry spots throughout the course. However, in these conditions, what do you tell your juniors/what do their coaches have them focus on? I've noticed with both of my daughters that if the conditions are sloppy they become a little more timid about their swing and have a tendency to catch heavy or top it/thin it. I'm praying for dryer fairways soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
  20. My daughter is playing the USK TS3 irons, but we just moved her from a Cobra F7 junior to a Cobra women's driver. She gained 20+ yards. Saturday, she drove one ball well over 200 with rollout. Most of her other drives were 180-190. She's 5'1"-ish and weights a whopping 74 pounds. But, she hits the ball pretty pure with the full length driver. I only made the change after seeing her swing this club and seeing the accuracy and distance improve. She only missed 3 fairways all Saturday, only one of them to the right. To me, this was the right decision for her game, especially since she is small and playing the distances she is. I think it all comes down the player. But agree that OEM is better than USK for driver.
  21. I'll be interested in seeing that. For girls, 10-11 plays 9 holes, 1,900 yards. At 12, though, they jump to 18 holes, 5,000 yards. That is 600 yards longer than what they played in the previous year/season. I thought the jump only benefited the long hitters (not my daughter) and penalized those girls that may hit short, but are accurate. I understand Worlds being longer, but at the local level, only the long hitters would ever have looked at birdies. My preference would have been to split the different and play them at 4,500 - 4,600.
  22. 13 yo daughter - Titlelist Tour Soft. May try AVX later. But, for now, plenty of distance with the Tour Soft and can get a lot of spin on the greens with it. 12 yo daughter - Titleist DT TruSoft. May move her to Tour Soft. Her swing speed is probably a bit higher than my 13 y/o, but her form is not nearly as good. But when she connects cleanly, the Tour Soft may be a better ball.
  23. My biggest encouragement to my daughters: Make friends in tournament play. You'll be seeing the same girls over and over, so get to know them. I did the same. I got to know the parents as we played, talk before, during, and after rounds, etc. We have developed a cool little community of friends doing this that we know check on, travel with if we have a long distance event, and eat with after a tournament round. It has been rewarding for our girls and us doing this.
  24. I missed this thread. My apologies. We settled with the US Kids TS-3 63" for her. Just this week we moved her to a ladies Cobra driver and instantly added 20-30 yards average to her drives and actually its it straighter. I wanted her to grow a bit more, more in overall size and not just height, so make sure she could gain the strength for an adult set of clubs.
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