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  1. I think its fair to once again quote the stated goal of all of these proposals: They're trying to halt further distance increases from equipment changes, not reduce distance for all levels of the game. We'll see what comes out of it. The OEMs have been included in all of the discussions so far. I'm going to bet that most of them will be on board with whatever changes happen, and that the changes will give the OEMs plenty of time to adapt appropriately. Again, time will tell.
  2. The consideration for this MLR began in 2016, was formally re-introduced in February, 2021, with a comment period that extended to May. "Stakeholders" have been invited to contribute throughout the entire Distance Insights process, although I've never read anything that indicates what any of the stakeholders (including PGA Tours) have said about the proposal. I agree with you, the relatively quick response by the PGA Tour indicates to me that they're on board with the adoption of this MLR for their competitions. You can read about the current measures being studied here: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/articles/2021/02/distance-golf-equipment-research-topics-areas-interest-usga-randa.html
  3. Sorry, but the authority for a Committee to enact Local Rules is pretty limited. In this case, they would not be allowed to enforce a penalty for something that is expressly allowed under the Rules of Golf (like playing a 48" driver) unless there is an approved Model Local Rule. Similarly, the Masters would not have been allowed to enact a Local Rule to assess a penalty for a putt that strikes the flagstick in the hole, which was discussed at length after the rule changes in 2019.
  4. You can do as you prefer under the new rule, as I'm sure you know, the new rule didn't remove that option. And I agree, for makeable putts I prefer to have the flag out.
  5. I don't think you can call it discrimination when the rule applies to every player in the field.
  6. I play in 5-somes semi-regularly. The retired guys at my club, playing weekday mornings, will play up to 7 in a group, and do that in about 4:30, but its really distracting to me. The good part, they're all mostly deaf, so nobody cares if carts are starting up in their backswings.
  7. The PGA and LPGA Tours will use this MLR starting January 2022. The USGA will use this MLR in all 14 of its championships in 2022. It will affect very few rank and file golfers, but at the very top level it may have a small effect.
  8. That is already in the Equipment Rules. This MLR is just one step in doing what they've said they intend to do since early 2020, try to limit future equipment-related distance gains. So damn near everyone in the world can play the same driver they're using now, they just can't take a step to one longer than 46 inches. If anyone didn't expect this, they've had their heads in the sand for more than 18 months.
  9. I'd say they don't want players to hit drives further than they currently do based on increasing the length of the club. Its a logical way to do what they've said they're trying to do for the last two years, to limit future equipment-related distance gains, while not decreasing distance across the board. This specific step was discussed more than 6 months ago.
  10. It means that unless the Model Local Rule is in effect for the event you're playing, you can continue to use a 48 inch driver. Much like MLR G-4, its unlikely to ever be in effect in any but the highest level competitions.
  11. Actually, it was designed by Jack junior, the publicity is careful to say "Nicklaus Design" rather Jack Nicklaus himself. Even so, Legacy gets a lot of positive feedback from folks who have played it.
  12. This Spring I played at 7 Lakes in West End for the first time. My wife and I were in the same boat, wanted to play but most places were booked. Its relatively inexpensive, and not a long ride from the Village. Its not "special", but the conditions and layout were both pretty good.
  13. As I have progressed in my own rules education, I've become "that guy" at my home club, I often get asked about the proper ruling. After the fact questions are great, education (for me too), and rarely cause friction. On the course, during a casual round, I rarely say much of anything unless asked. During a proper competition, I will bring up violations I see, but I'm not really watching for them, I'm playing my own round of golf. I HAVE brought up violations in match play, but I'll usually wait until a subsequent hole to bring them up, so the results of the previous hole stand. When I play with beginners, I'll be more vocal. I don't mean correcting things in real time, but talking about things a hole or two later. Or I'll suggest that the rules say "this", but at your level of play its ok to give yourself an easier option. Learn the game, have fun now, but understand where you'll need to change to comply with the rules as you advance in skill.
  14. I think @Obee summarized it pretty well. For most players, there is likely to be a wider range of scores on longer and tougher courses, as opposed to shorter/easier. That greater variability means that your lowest differentials are more likely to come on those longer/tougher courses, and so are your highest differentials. Its also true that golfers are individuals, so that for every generality like this, there are going to be plenty of individuals who form the exceptions. Some shorter skilled players are going to struggle with a long course, some long hitters with erratic short games will underperform on shorter courses. And some players will struggle to adapt to anything that's different from what they normally play. For me, at age 65, I do struggle when the courses get too long, even though I play to a 4.9 handicap index. I typically look at Course Handicap for reasonable guidance, I might get 7 at a longer course, or 3 at a shorter one, so my "target score" could vary from 75 to 79.
  15. Although @antipis extremely knowledgeable, you'll do even better by reading the actual rule and interpretations for yourself. Its Rule 10.2b(5).
  16. My wife and I had a really nice dinner at Lino's, right on the waterfront in Sheboygan.
  17. THIS is specifically permitted, via the last bit of 10.2b(5) Having your caddie intentionally protect you from the elements, whether at your instruction or not, is a breach.
  18. In my mind, once you see a ball that could be yours, you are required to be relatively cautious as you attempt to identify it. If you step on a ball that you hadn't noticed because it was in deep grass, you can be excused under the rule. If you step on a ball that is clearly visible, thats not within "reasonable actions" to find and identify your ball.
  19. I agree with @nsxguy, I'm afraid you get a one stroke penalty for moving your ball at rest under Rule 9.4. You did the right there by in replacing it before playing on.
  20. Ko'olau on Oahu, Carnoustie, both head and shoulders harder than anything else I've played.
  21. A full Irish, including black pudding, because that means I'm playing golf in Ireland.
  22. My impression reading the entire thread is that you want to play your son even, because your Handicap Indices are about the same, but that you want to get an advantage by playing a shorter course. If you've raised a fool, he'll certainly be willing to agree with that. Chances are that he has an advantage in length as compared to you, but that you have advantages over him in other parts of your games, so that the general result is close to even. So buck up and play him straight up from the same tees. Heck, both of you could move up one set of tees, or even more, and still play even.
  23. I think I was to the right the first time I played there. My first putt attempt almost made it to the green, but came back to my feet. My second rolled just over, and down the other side. My third was good, and I made the 8-footer for double bogey 5. Obviously you're a better player than I am.
  24. I haven't found a tougher one, at lest considering the distance involved.
  25. The back deck at Mid Pines is the single best spot to watch golfers finish up a round. Good vantage point overlooking the last, and a tough green to putt. Makes it fun to gamble on whether players will 3-putt or not.
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