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  1. Utility irons do not inherently have longer shafts. Most driving irons are designed with longer head length and lower mass to make them easier to launch.....Lengthening the shaft for the sole purpose of distance would be counter intuitive, taking a club that was designed to be easier to hit or launch, and making it harder to hit and launch consistently. Personally I like the term "utility iron" over driving iron, because a lot of people seem to think that a driving iron, implies some magical driver-like distance increase that just simply is not there. And as others have said...it i
  2. So because you did not want a fitter to do their job because you decided that your "favorite shaft" is better than anything they had to offer, even though there is absolutely no way for you to know that without a direct comparison, you are upset that they will not break their policy about the weights? The same exact policy that Titleist has with Scotty Cameron putters.........? You do realize that if you went through a proper fitting and let them fit you into the optimum shaft, that they could have made the adjustments to get the swing weight to your liking. If someone basically re
  3. Static loft is not the sole indicator of a club's performance....especially with some of the newer iron designs. Any well designed set will keep the relationship between spin launch and distance in mind when "gapping" the set.
  4. The problem is you are still looking at VCOG as direct reference to optimal strike location. That is not how club design works. Club designers are still designing clubs to have their own "optimal" strike characteristics from what would be considered a "normal" strike location. If you start trying to only hit from the exact VCOG position, then you are completely missing the whole point of different designs. And no one is designing irons to be hit an inch behind the ball and ignoring performance on solid strikes. They are designing the clubs to be hit properly, but with the ability to provide so
  5. I don't know of any company that is designing irons to be hit fat. Some designs provide relief on "fat" strikes, but even then, a "fat" hit will not produce the same consistent result that a solid strike will on that very same club. And I am not sure what you think a high VCOG is or does, but a club is not designed for VCOG to determine the optimum strike location. It is designed that way to affect flight characteristics i.e. ball flight and spin. Plus you yourself said that bigger irons launch the ball higher....which is a product of weight low and back....not a high VCOG.
  6. That really has nothing to do with the club and more to do with a lack of discipline...You can easliy use impact tape or footspray during practice to train yourself to strike the ball better. The question is whether you are willing to make the effort or not. I would bet if you hit all over the face on a larger iron that you are doing the same with a smaller iron....yes on the smaller iron the total area of strike may be smaller but you are likely fooling yourself if you think that this means you are striking it more "pure".
  7. I have struggled a lot with 3 putts until recently. I have come to realize oversized grips do not help my putting and that I need a heavy putter with a heavy swing weight. It is important to know that one does not equal the other. You can have a 400g putter head, but if you throw a heavy oversized grip on it, the putter can still "swing" light. I have had great results lately by going back to a regular size pistol grip with a heavy putter with an e6 swing weight. Maybe you can start with finding a heavy putter with a high swing weight and see if that helps...then try t
  8. I don't think he over-estimated it at all...If anything he saw the market before the other OEMs did. Now most of the OEMs have a high priced "premium" line, and they raised the price of their "normal" lineups. Personally I can see PXG pricing as a strategic move with a hint of "revenge". When Parsons started making clubs, several major OEMs laughed at him and made public statements of how his company could not last and would fail. Then when PXG did not go belly up, those same OEM's decided they wanted part of that "high end" market as well. So maybe PXG just decided if they are goi
  9. The reality is so much more than the results they promise.......Yes, most people will gain raw swing speed if they stick with the program for an extended amount of time. Now whether or not that translates to the course depends on if you can "control" that increase or not. If you gain 5mph swing speed but your smash factor drops, then you may not see much of a difference in overall distance. I have seen a few people increase their swing speed by quite a bit, but they also opened up a wild 2 way miss. My personal experience with the people I know that have used swing speed training d
  10. I completely understand the argument. But what I am saying is that PXG is likely getting a killer price based on volume for the elevate shafts and passing that on to the consumer. The OP has a right to his own opinion, I was just stating that in my opinion, that is not a reason to "mark down" a company as he had stated in a previous post. The reality is that a lot of these shafts have different MSRP's and different pricing to manufacturers based on the shaft and the purchase volume. As an example Callaway has the Elevate shaft as the "stock" option in the new Apex irons.....Why? be
  11. Your argument is like someone complaining that their major OEM driver came with a made for version of a shaft instead of the hand crafted version of the shaft they wanted. Plus you have no clue, PXG may have signed a killer deal to purchase the Elevate shafts in bulk, and rather than pocket the difference(like the major OEMs) they chose to pass those savings on to the customer. Yet you want to "mark them down" as a company for saving people money? Maybe Titleist, Callaway, and Taylormade get the same extreme bulk savings on the elevate shaft, but just chose to "overcharge" for it. I guess if t
  12. What is your launch angle? Because at 90mph swing speed, as long as you are not pairing it with a really high launch angle, 3000rpm should not be hurting your distance, and may actually be helping the ball stay in the air a bit longer. Just a frame of reference, LPGA players average 14° launch and 2600 rpm. So you should look at both numbers, because lower spin will not always mean more distance. It may be that you need to optimize your launch.
  13. Here in Phoenix, the bunkers suck at most courses...Some nice courses have decent bunkers but a lot of the bunkers here are a thin layers of sand on top of packed "hardpan", or some don't even have that thin layer on top. So in some of our bunkers, bounce is not your friend, so opening up a sand wedge or a lower lofted club just compounds the issue. In this situation loft and low bounce is your friend, because you can close the face of a 60 degree wedge so that the leading edge will dig into this packed sand and allow you to hit a bunker style shot. The other issue can
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