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  1. I think the overwhelming majority of players, certainly amateurs, fall in the LOP category. Without seeing the OP's swing though, it's kind of a mute point. We need to see it to categorize it, then apply the appropriate fundamentals. There are multiple reasons why he might be steep and you can't begin to fix it without first identifying why.
  2. Well no they don't, they are both clearly defined by Hardy, so, if you feel the need to "throw up on your mouth a little", then maybe find another thread to comment in....Hardy and the Plane Truth folk are about matchups. If....you exhibit characteristics of one release style, utilizing fundamentals from the other will not be helpful. The OP asked about the LOP and you replied posting a picture of Snead who is RIT....so not helpful in this case. So, if you have nothing to add but to "throw up in your mouth a little", perhaps you should have just kept scrolling...not to be argumentative or anything....
  3. Well, for starters, he is defined as an RIT by Hardy, so it's apples and oranges...
  4. The same way this guy does. I'd have to see your swing but it sounds like your shaft is too steep, or your path is moving left because you opened your shoulders early. Justin Rose also falls into the LOP category defined by Hardy and his drill is to feel his shoulders closed while his arms drop. If it is your shaft that is too steep, you could try feeling like your left palm turns down, (faces the ground), in transition. Just be careful you don't overdo it or you will find a quick ticket to block and hooksville. Remember, the RIT squares the club face to the path at the top of the swing while the LOP squares the face to the path at the bottom.
  5. Are you taking a divot when this happens? Maybe try moving your ball position back slightly and playing the shot the same way you normally do. Sounds to me like your ball position may be too far forward and you are getting away with it on firm ground but not so much on wet ground.
  6. Sometimes I go out to play nine holes with my buddy and his son. We practice some fun things like using half of your bag, or just bringing a couple clubs. We drop an extra ball here and there, hit high risk shots now and then, (drivers where you shouldn't, cut corners, etc.). It's a great reset and a lot of times teaches you how to recover. Years ago in my early 20s before kids, myself and my housemate used to play golf almost every day. I played off of a scratch and he was about a 12, we used to play matches a couple times a month where I only got to use a 7 iron and a putter against his whole bag and most times I beat him. In hindsight, those types of rounds taught me a lot and made me a better player. For instance, the biggest factor in me moving from say a 3-4 handicap and a scratch was when I learned to hit my scoring clubs less than full which resulted in better birdie chances and more GIR. I had another buddy who was a scratch but never won club tournaments, he hit the ball a mile and hit his wedge 160 yards...I told him that when he learned to hit is 8 iron 150 yards, NOBODY would ever beat him....(he never did and still hasn't won any club events)! Being able to manipulate a club to squeeze a bit more out of it, or shape it to add / scrub distance is an important skill and becomes necessary when you are only playing with half a set. I guess my point is that getting out on the course and once in a while being untethered from your score, is a great way to alleviate any stress that 'scoring' may cause you. Go have fun, try crazy stuff once in a while, you'll learn a lot more about yourself and will probably get better doing it.
  7. Not a lot of action outdoors lately but I have started a project to tidy up my workshop so I can build a retreat of sorts in the back for myself. The shop is 24'x36' and I will be adding a wall in the back half to create a 15'x24' heated space. I will move my desk out there, (still working from home), and will also add my NetReturn and a hitting mat as I'm planning on picking up a launch monitor to put together a budget simulator build. Step one is to organize 7 years worth of clutter in the shop so I have room to build. That started last night when I installed 24' of shelving to tidy up my greens keeping gear. Now, to sort the rest of the mess into 'keep or throw' and start filling the dumpster that is parked in my driveway.
  8. I'd start by watching a few YouTube videos to see if you connect with it. Hardy seems to take a pretty big knock on these forums for some reason. His premise is that there are 'basically' two types of swing, (single plane with the lead arm on the same plane as the shoulders at the top, and two plane where the lead arm is above the plane of the shoulders at the top), the fundamentals that make each of these swings work are different and if you mix them, they are counter productive. So...figure out which category you fall in and focus only on the fundamentals for that type. I also found Hardy's book on the Release to be informative. Wright Balance and Lee Rinker, (check out YouTube), are similar though they have identified three types of swings with fundamentals that work for each one (I'm not as familiar with their stuff). But, by all means don't limit yourself to those instructors, any good instructor will understand matchups and help you hit the ball better from the tools you have. Just be weary of anyone who is talking of a rebuild. The success you are looking for comes from small changes that add up over time. Monte or Dan who have both been mentioned I'm sure would help you improve but if you pick one of those guys, trust them and work on only what they tell you, (don't look for quick fixes online). If after a period of time you don't see improvement or you don't connect with them, move on.
  9. Here is the reigning champion of 'shallow' taking a pretty good divot!
  10. I wouldn't worry much about rebuilding your swing. That is an incredibly hard thing to do and takes a lot of dedicated effort, (it's very hard to change an ingrained motor pattern). You'll find quicker results working with an instructor that will give you matchups to make the swing you have produce better results. As others said, maybe spend a bit on an online lesson...but, my advice is to run away fast if they suggest a rebuild. To my eye, it looks like your clubface is closed to the path at the top of your swing...in a still this can look like an enviable position, but....you have to rotate like Sergio, Rory, and DJ to outrace this, which most people don't. If I was you, I'd mess around with maybe a weaker grip or whatever gets you in more of a neutral clubface position at the top, then, focus on swinging your arms past your body on the downswing and allowing the clubface to rotate closed through impact. This would work better as a matchup for your more upright swing plane and maybe start producing a consistent miss. The game gets a whole bunch easier when you become more sure of where your miss is. (If you want to learn about matchups, you could look at the instruction that Jim Hardy and the Plane Truth teaches, or Wright Balance Golf, (check our Lee Rinker on YouTube), as they teach sort of a similar thing). I think athletically you move well enough to reach your goal but you need to find the elements that work with your motion. Hint....there isn't one set of fundamentals and some things that are trendy in instruction only work in certain scenarios. I'm also a believer that if you change the position of the club face, your body will react to the best of it's ability to get it on the ball and sometimes we ask too much of our bodies. **EDIT- Or alternatively, you rotate like heck from this position and feel like you are making contact with the ball at your right hip.
  11. What ball flight issue are you trying to address? Also, where do you lose strokes in a round? I've seen lots of 9-10 handicap plays with worse swings. Do you play a lot? I've also seen a lot of 15 handicap players lose shots because they were trying to play 'above their pay grade' if you know what I mean. One of the prime culprits is over playing chip / pitch shots and taking two shots to get on the green....this is an easy way to make double bogey. Another is trying to be a hero from out of position, like leaving it in a bunker because you hit two little loft, chunking it in heavy rough because you tried to hit too much club. You might not lose shots in this manner, but in my experience, a lot of players at your handicap level could think their way to an 11-12 with a bit of discipline and honest evaluation of their ability. Find a way to make bogey your worst number...you can recover from a bogeys, but not from doubles.
  12. Looks like the last days of my 'waiting for the bus' routine are here. I shot a few short videos while I was messing around today. Slo-Motion Slow Flop And some short chips
  13. I think tempo is the whole key to making a faster backswing translate into more club head speed. Isn't that the premise of the 'Tour Temp' program? Assuming the ratio of time between your backswing and downswing stays the same (3:1 in Tour Tempo land), a faster backswing will result in more club head speed because your swing has taken less time. I saw an interview with Rory McIlroy, though I can't find it now, where he said if he wants to hit it a bit further, he makes a faster backswing. I guess the issue is that your sequencing / transition has to be good to allow for the 3:1 to be maintained, and if your strike isn't center, it doesn't really matter. So, theoretically, it's a great premise but I wonder if most players would be better off learning to find the center of the face.
  14. Probably stuck under plane and hitting too much from the inside. Moving the path left, (for a right hander), is a steep element and probably 8000 views on how to best do that on this forum.
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