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  1. On 9/19/2021 at 2:51 AM, beaney said:

    Hi all


    In true WRX form I’m having a year of changing putters, constantly!


    The issue seems to be that although my current putter (odyssey ten triple track) works pretty nicely, I just seem to prefer something that looks more traditional!


    I do need help with alignment, so a wide bodied blade (like a odyssey double wide or ping Kushin) gets me some of that, with a little forgiveness too.

    However I also seem to gravitate and putt better with plumbers neck than heel shafted, but most of the blades are heel shafted (mizuno m craft 4, odyssey double wide, ping etc). 

    so what options are there for wide blade and plumbers neck? Can’t seem to find many, or am I just trying to find something that doesn’t exist!?




    Scotty Cameron Special Select Squareback 2 - I love mine.  I’ve been down the wide blade rabbit hole for a while (2014 Select Squareback, Evnroll ER-2, 2018 Select Squareback 1.5, Bettinardi BB-8W, Odyssey Double Wide). The Squareback 2 has been the best of them, for me.

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  2. 5 hours ago, cyclegolfer said:

    If it is the one with weights, they are 330g with no weights. 2 10 g weights and it will be 350g.  The 34” come with 15g weights for 360g head. 

    I don’t think that’s correct.  The 33” stock putters (dual 20’s) are 360g weight heads.  The 34” (dual 15’s) are 350g and the 35” (dual 10’s) are 340g.

  3. For me, I’ve really found that a 360g head weight with a 33.5” shaft length and an 84g midsize grip (Golf Pride Tour Classic) works best for me in most conditions.


    I have a few putters that are 330g and they just seem to light and whippy for my stroke.  I don’t putt as well when I have to swing that fast.

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  4. On 9/2/2021 at 12:40 AM, collindm1 said:

    Switched from a 2014 Newport to the 2018 Newport 2 (insert) because of the lack of feedback on the 2014 deep mill. I've hit pretty much every scotty you can hit - tour issued and off rack, and I love the feel of his inserts (specifically the 2018 line). The reason for the insert was to gain a certain sound and he really nailed it. I can easily diagnose all mishits - hollow if struck off center, and pure when struck out of the dead center. The insert truly helps you diagnose where your miss-hits are. If you're a good putter and you hit it out of the center often, there's no reason not to like this putter. I will say I did not like the fastback/squareback models as much. The feel was a bit more dead with the aluminum - BUT - I didn't mind it at all and many on the pro tours, on the ladies and mens side still use them (I.E., emily pedersen, matilda castren, etc.)


    There are many on tour that still game the "worst scotty's ever"...for as much hate as they get, Nelly Korda and current world number 1 gamed a Newport 2 with an insert and won often with it (currently in a special select squareback 2), Sei Young Kim games a Newport 2 insert and won a major with it, Brian Gay won in Bermuda with a NP2 last November, Sung Kang games a NP2 insert, as does Chase Koepka, John Merrick, Hugo Leon (european tour), Andrew Kozan (recently turned pro), Will Grimmer (Korn Ferry Tour), and several others actual use off the rack 2016 newports with inserts (john vanderLaan on the Korn Ferry Tour), Kelsey Macdonald (european ladies tour)...they obviously feel right to some of the best out there and again, it's all personal. Typically, the guys and girls that find the center of the insert might like it more - if you struggle to find the center, that may be a reason the feel is off for you. 


    Lot of hate on the inserts, but I can't go there. Scotty Cameron just makes quality putters and no matter what they all end up in the bag of amateurs and pros alike for different reasons. 

    Of all the Scotty putters I’ve owned, the 2018-2019 seem to be the best of the inserts.  I don’t mind the stainless insert on my 2018 Select Laguna, at all.  I honestly can’t even tell that it’s there when I’m putting.  It feels like a fully milled putter.


    I also own a 2003 Studio Stainless Laguna 2.5 (shallow milled), a 2014 Select Squareback (deep milled) and a 2020 Special Select Squareback 2 (mid milled).  My 2018 Select Laguna feels as good as any of them.

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  5. On 8/5/2021 at 2:10 PM, tnerbrussell said:


    I do the exact same thing. 


    As for why? Probably because that's how I grip the rest of my clubs (minus the extended index finger). 



    On that note, since you do grip the same as me... what kind of grip do you use?

    My preferred putter grip is the Golf Pride Tour Classic - it’s that midsize triangular profile one. Solid rubber.

  6. 19 hours ago, calvin4w said:


    What kind of grip do you play with? have you found a certain size or shape to be more natural for an interlock?


    I currently overlap two fingers using a GP tour snsr straight grip (blue one), trying to interlock on that puts my wrists at an awkward angle, but interlocking on my other putter's standard pistol grip feels more natural. Also finding out sweaty hands get worse when you interlock without gloves lol.



    Heres a video of Schauffele's set up (I think his armlock setup and current setup are the same, just couldn't find a good video of the latter), seems like he does exactly what you want to try.


    I have an evnroll midlock I've been messing around with and just can't find the right grip for. I may try this left hand low interlock as it feels more natural and lets my right hand press and hold the shaft into left arm easily.



    I use that interlocking grip with every grip I’ve ever had on a putter.  Superstroke, Cameron, Golf Pride - it doesn’t matter to me.  That all said, my putter grip of choice is the Golf Pride Tour Classic.  Something about that midsize, triangular profile just works for me.  Next best would be a Tour SNSR then followed by a Scotty Pistolero.

  7. 4 hours ago, jvincent said:

    My vote is Wilson.


    Other than Woodland and Harrington their tour presence is very low profile. I didn't even know Harrington was a staffer until I looked it up.

    Add Kevin Streelman to that list.


    It should probably be said, though, that Wilson has ramped up the investment capital the last few years.  In as much as their irons go, the Staff Model Blades and Staff Model CBs are top notch.  I think the woods still have a long way to go, but the general consensus is that their newer irons are as good, or better, than anything out there.

  8. 23 hours ago, MyShortGameSucks said:

    Currently play 50/54/60 SM6 vokeys.  After having one too many awful wedge approach days after striping driver/3 wood off the tee I decided I needed a change.  Yes I know its me not the club but I figured just looking down at something different would help,  Bought a CBX2 56 deg in black finish.  Hit balls and chipped/pitched a few this AM,  Have to say I am impressed.   Looks great at address, surprisingly nice softish feel and the grind bounce worked really well both in the rough and tighter fairway lies.   Will see how it performs on the course and what its like out of the sand but if its still good I can see myself getting a full set of these.

    I’m not a low capper by any means, but I’ve been playing to an 8 the last several seasons.  About 3 years ago I got a set of the OG CBX wedges and my short game really improved with them.  Nothing fancy about my playing - mostly chips and pitches, the rare flop.  I could execute the basics with the CBXs and they worked for me.


    I got an inflated head about it and the next season I thought I’d “upgrade” out of those game improvement shovels and got a set of RTX-4s.  My short game was never the same with them.  The harder I tried with the RTXs, the worse my short game got. I was all over the place.


    Last season I ditched the RTXs and got a set of CBX-2s in 50/54/58.  My short game slowly came back.  I’m sticking with them.  I like them so much that I bought a pair of OG CBX in 50/56 for my practice bag.  I know they’re not for everyone, but they work for me and I feel confident standing over them.

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  9. 44 minutes ago, shart6 said:

    A couple of my 8802s and one 8813.

    I don’t game it anymore, but I still have and love my old Wilson Tour Special Forged (the cheap 8802) that I bought new in ‘91 for like $39 bucks.  It was my gamer until about ‘03.


    I do still use it a lot on the putting mat at home - it just has such a unique feel to it.

  10. I have a Studio Stainless Laguna 2.5 and I love it.  IMHO, the Studio Stainless series are killer looking, older Scotty’s.


    Keep in mind that both the Studio Stainless series and the Pro Platinum series are going to feel petty light by today’s standards.  With the exception of some of the specific 340/34 and 350/33 ones, most of them (like my Laguna) are originally 330g and 35” from the factory.

  11. On 4/25/2021 at 1:00 PM, phizzy30 said:

    I've gamed insert putters and milled putters.  I prefer milled because it feels better off the face.  I don't like the mushy feel of an insert.  Can't say if milled face has more pop to it.  My Newport is deep milled and I absolutely love it.  Before my current putter I would go through putters like I would underwear.  This bad boy has been in my bag for over 10 years now. 

    I’ve gone back and forth as well. This season I’ve settled into a 2018 Scotty Laguna (which has the milled insert with the tape / elastomer behind it).  Honestly, IMHO it’s damned close to the fully milled Scotty’s that I own.  It feels great to me and it’s plenty firm.

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  12. On 4/17/2021 at 8:39 PM, Honeybadger said:

    That’s a very interesting analysis. I had an Odyssey Red Ball, but had to get rid of it because it took so long to line-up.  I think the Red Ball was a great idea in theory, but in practice out on the course it was cumbersome. I never thought about the effect that taking too long lining up a put using the “tech” might have on rhythm. 
    Come to think of it, this may be why I am really liking my new Two Ball Ten Tour Lined  - it gives me just enough of an alignment aid to allow me to pull the trigger more quickly as I get very uneasy standing over a putt too long. 

    I probably should have expanded a little bit more on this.  Alignment tools are not my biggest priority for putting - my focus is more about my shoulder rotation and having my putting stroke on plane.  The alignment aids are a loose guide for me and come after addressing the ball and checking that my putter face is square to my target line.

  13. For me, neither one wound up being optimal. I had an O-Works 2 Ball and it was quick to line up but not precise.  I also have had a couple of SeeMore’s and I find it’s very slow to line up and address.  I was always taking my time checking and adjusting my alignment with the RST and I felt like I couldn’t get into a nice rhythm.


    the RST works great, but the slow rhythm always bothered me and I eventually moved on.

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  14. 11 hours ago, MPAndreassi said:

    Do mean flat bumpers vs the rounded ones? The 1 and 2 designation on the Squareback match the Newport styles. The 1 has rounded bumpers, and the 2 has flat/square bumpers. 


    That’s not exactly right.  The 2008-2011 Studio Select Squareback 1 and 2 both have rounded bumpers.  The 2014-2015 Select Squareback has square bumpers.  The 2018-2019 Select Squareback 1 and 1.5 both have square bumpers and the 2020-2021 Special Select Squareback 2 has square bumpers.


    The numbers refer to the neck styles: 1 is a single bend shaft, 1.5 is a mini slant neck and 2 is a plumbers neck.



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  15. I’ve had the 2018 and still own the 2014.  I greatly prefer the more compact head shape of the 2014 (even tho it has that stupid pop up cross).  IMHO, the face of the 2018 and the 2020 is too long and the head feels huge compared to the 2014.


    My perfect Squareback would be the 2014 head shape with a single line on the back flange.

  16. 6 hours ago, BlueDragonKorea said:

    What about the M5/M6 was substantially better than the M3/M4?


    IMHO, the twist face was done better than the original and the M6 had the early version of the inertia generator.  I thought the M6 was a great, forgiving driver and easily as good as the 2016 M2 was.

  17. 39 minutes ago, aquapig said:

    New paint colors, fancy new tech terms, and tons of marketing are all golf equipment companies have left.


    The driver tech has been maxed out for years and unless you just are looking for a new toy, then there isn't much reason for you to drop money on a new driver. 


    I think year after year there are incremental improvements and substantial improvements in the clubs.  For example OG M1/M2 were substantial (compared to the R series), M3/M4 were incremental gain and M5/M6 were more substantial.

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