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  1. Going to left handed putting was the extreme step I had to take to completely get around the yipping action after trying cross handed, claw, belly and even full length models. If you've never truly experienced this you would be hard pressed to describe actually what happens in a classic yip action. Essentially for me what happens is as the putter is on the downswing, immediately just before impact, the power in the stroke stops as if you were going to avoid hitting the ball outright, but then in a fraction of a second power resumes. This is the herky jerky you see if you watch someone with
  2. The group of about 25 people I play with somewhat regularly, mostly seniors, and lots of gamesmanship from a couple of them. No comments about legality or other for my sudden switch to FO/SS putting. But those first 5-6 rounds I'm sure they wondered what the heck I was doing and why since clearly it was not working at all for me. I think 5-6 3-putts per round was what was happening those first rounds, including missed 3 footers on a regular basis, including short birdie putts. Having dealt w/ the yips previously for me it was nothing special to way underperform in front of an audience, tho
  3. Here's a paste from an article about Dave Pelz encounter w/ FO putting guy. Note the comment in the 2nd to the last paragraph--I finally tried and committed to this ("The putter shaft was behind his right arm, so he was pulling the shaft, not pushing it") and that was when I started making putts after many many hours of diligent practice with other methods getting essentially nowhere for months. I think I am taking the putter head straight back on my intended line using that way of applying the right hand/arm than I was with other methods. I did use a training channel initially, but again
  4. As a side point Jeff I use the FO putter I bought side-on when putts are over about 10-12' or so depending on my comfort level. I stand behind the ball to line up the putt as with FO pre-putt setup, then simply hold it in place while I move around into position to stroke it side-on. I found it quite easy to control distance for longer putts this way, and I get some benefit of lining up behind the ball, and for reasons I don't understand I don't have any yipping tendency even though its a similar action as with a claw grip on a short putter which can bring on a yip for me. As soon as I'm i
  5. I don't get the sense fine tuning the length gets you much closer to performing at your best w/ this method. I went w/ 45", but honestly it could have been 42", 48" etc and this would have made no significant difference overall to adapting to using it.
  6. Hi Jeff, I became interested in FO/SS putting after reading this thread. I started w/ an old ping belly putter I found at a Play it Again Sports store for a very few dollars. It was enough to make me want to get something better designed for FO putting, so I bought a new one from EdTheClubBuilder in Ebay for $109, custom length for my 6'4" body. I diligently practice several hours a day on practice green for several weeks and started thinking I was getting somewhere, that is until I went out on a course that had very challenging greens. I stuck with it for about 6 rounds total over a mont
  7. > @AKGator said: > Using the putter track has been beneficial. After putting through the track for awhile , I was able to hit 30 consecutive 5 footers, most of them dead center. This technique is going to work for me. > I spoke with Bobby Grace yesterday. I have a F22 on the way to Alaska! I guess the idea on the track is to have just what, 1/8-1/4" of clearance on both sides of the putter? When you practiced with it did you stop your stroke as soon as you made contact with it, or just keep practicing and over time you were able to not graze the track sides? When I first boug
  8. Played yesterday and did better for sure. Only one 3-putt, which is an improvement ;o) But my long game went to hell!
  9. > @J-Tizzle said: > I will say one absolute for me side saddling putting is getting my line on my ball lined up directly on the line i want to hit it on. I do struggle just stepping up there and feeling the line with the putter. But I am amendment that the line is on my intended line before I address the ball. I probably spend 2-3x the time lining up my ball vs actually striking the putt. Once the line is on point, I just get up there and hit it. I tried this myself just a couple times the other day since I had abandoned lining up the ball on my intended line and I made one 8'
  10. > @Rohlio said: > It seems to take some time getting people used to trusting the line while looking FO. I am guessing it is a bit of mental interference with that. Best of luck. Thank you kindly for the well wishes. As an inveterate yipper mental interference is something I can do pretty well! It doesn't feel that way to me it but I don't really know. With SO putting I always pick a line 2-3' ahead of the ball and I've not done that w/ FO. I've primarily just stood behind ball setting the club down and lining up directly attempting to trust that binocular vision, then strive to
  11. > @BigEx44 said: > I would think you'd be VERY happy with your progress! We each have our expectations. You're seeing these things as evidence of progress, whereas for me the NOT VERY HAPPY comes from the fact after way more practice than I ever did converting to left-handed SO putting I miss way more short putts, and near as I can tell making short putts matters the most! And moreover, right or wrong my expectation was that short putts were really the area of greatest improvement offered w/ FO putting. But as I say, playing a role in this may well have to do with having less expe
  12. > @"Joe Duffer" said: > Overall (total) weight? Don't have a scale sensitive enough, but it's a standard appearing shaft and split grips. It feels great, the ball rolls well.
  13. > @garyt said: I SS putt pretty well by myself but struggle a little with friends and was horrible in the one tourney I tried it in. I think it's probably especially psychologically difficult when you do poorly with this style of putting, publicly, as it were. After all, you're doing something completely at odds w/ 99.999% of the rest of the golfing public, and what, you aren't doing at least fair with it and you're still doing it? Obviously this thought has crossed my mind. I don't feel particularly goofy doing it at all now, even playing with friends. But doing so poorly with shor
  14. > @"Joe Duffer" said: > Curious, what is the overall weight of your new SS putter? The head is 416 grams, face-balanced w/ a urethane insert, the loft is 3 degrees, the shaft is steel, the grip is split, and the total length is 47". The ball ROLL is very good I feel. From what I read it's in the ballpark for weight though some seem to prefer lighter heads. At 6'4" tall I like the ergonomics with it and of course the lever is long for the weight on the end of it. I can see a trade-off with lighter--it will also move off line easier it would seem than something in this weight are
  15. > @garyt said: Just wondering what you guys have used and where you got it. I'm not a local expert having only tried SS for maybe 22h now, 90% of which is very focused putting on the practice green. But I see nothing wrong w/ the putter I bought at a custom length of 47" off of ebay. While I'm not yipping putts anymore I must say I'm not getting good at this very quickly. In fact, it's really been an abject disappointment so far. I know others have said plan on a year to really get the transition down, then others say they go out and immediately start putting well. I thought I was im
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