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  1. Fair enough - as stated in the OP question, it’s looking at short term - and we had our answer that it was possible
  2. I agree and get what you are saying – it serves to prove the point also, in my opinion… from a previous comment: -- I think this interesting thread is demonstrating (if nothing else haha) that by definition the handicap system is showing the potential of a player, on any given day, if he had a match play or stroke play to try and level out the playing field... It is not showing what a guy usually scores, on average, relative to par... Thus, on any given Sunday - can Derek Lowe play with Annika (or even 30 LPGA ladies for that matter)? The answer is yes, and we had an example of such days... Can Derek Lowe keep up with the LPGA ladies in the long run? The answer is no Basically, if he loses on average a couple of strokes per round to the typical LPGA lady... extrapolating : on any day, anything can happen... for a tourney, maybe... for a season, no chance -- As an aside – the PGA Tour scores usually follow a bell curve of mean 70.8 and standard deviation of 2.6… said differently : there is a 95% chance that the final score (par72) for a PGA player will be between 65.6 and 76.0… These guys/gals are tremendous at avoiding the disastrous rounds… 95% of the time below 76!... and this is where the low-cap / scratch, as you mentioned, wouldn’t be able to keep up in the long run… on any day – sure… for way longer, no chance…
  3. Was hoping some of the more knowledgeable guys/gals would answer, as the pressure shifts play a big role in the swing, and wanted to get their feel for what is happening right off the bat, getting to the top and in transition mainly - as I definitely need to improve in those aspects (you can find my swing in a thread this month somewhere)... My uneducated answer is (Montre clock : suppose target is 12 and in front of me is 3) : Takeaway - screwing / pushing outward and in the toes (toward 4) on my right (trail) foot so the ground is pushing me back toward 7, i.e. body 'falling' to the inside of trail heel... Getting to the top - 'gliding' and recentering and just before P4 I try and 'reverse the takeway pressure', i.e. screwing / bracing / pushing outward and in the toes of my left foot (toward 2)... So, to answer your question my focus is on my lead side; pressing / bracing (and 'trying' to pivot through; but can't do it properly)... surely not on the trail side pushing (others might feel inside of the trail foot pushing the hips?)... I'd love to know!
  4. Correct... and really interesting the combo of weak-strong (lead-trail) : that promotes the bowed lead wrist at the top... and a 'cobra' release pattern it seems, holding (or trying to) the wrists angles; as if the back of your lead hand (glove logo) was facing the ball coming into impact
  5. Fair enough... but my point was more; if he loses on average a couple of strokes per round to the typical LPGA lady... extrapolating : on any day, anything can happen... for a tourney, maybe... for a season, no chance
  6. Was wondering about that also - because double or a 9 doesn't make much difference... and when digging the celebs that had a hard time; biggest above par on every hole is a double... Edit to add that Derek Lowe only had 2 'doubles' in those four rounds (Annika had none)... so, not much of a factor in that +7 final score... maybe more in the mindset going for certain shots(?), who knows...
  7. I think this interesting thread is demonstrating (if nothing else haha) that by definition the handicap system is showing the potential of a player, on any given day, if he had a match or stroke play to try and level out the playing field... It is not showing what a guy usually scores, on average, relative to par... Thus, on any given sunday - can Derek Lowe play with Annika (or even 30 LPGA ladies for that matter)? The answer is yes and we had an example of such days... Can Derek Lowe keep up for a tourney (or longer) with LPGA ladies? The answer is no, at +7 he would have finished T24 out of 30... 23 strokes behind...
  8. Love it... the clockwise square!... would you say that a lot of instruction tries to minimize the 4th leg; release the horizontal (cast B I assume) by 'forcing' players to rotate hard and try to hold it (even though it seems lead wrist moves into extension / trail wrist into flexing by sheer club momentum at the bottom) and exit 'lower' and left - to minimize ROC even though there's no correlation to shot dispersion...
  9. Agree - that's why I posted about #15 at Augusta for a perfect example... just 520ish yards or so but... pulled drive and you are behind the trees on the left side -> can't reach in two... good drive on the right side leaves you approximately 200yds on a downhill lie where you; carry the green and it's trickles down into the #16 water hazard or land it short (even on the first few feet on the green) and it trickles back down into the pond or (very rarely) push it into the deep rightside bunker; good luck - even just a few yards off the green at the back and it's a delicate chip (ask Spieth if it doesn't hit the flag last year)... while a great shot can leave you with an eagle look... love that hole
  10. Agree completely - in theory... but then, when being pragmatic, with 320yds drive and 270yds 3wood - let's round it to 600yds in two shots... the only way it can be accomplish is by a stupid long 700yds hole or with a funky dogleg/penalty area design... it's why I rather see a tough but reachable par5 in two shots for these guys but that is risk/reward and offers a lot of variance in scoring... the perfect example being hole 15 at Augusta... scores ranging from eagles to doubles and all it takes is one misplayed shot to see that disparity
  11. Last complete season 2021 - PGA Tour averages - scoring and birdie or better % : Par 3s : 3.08 (12.9%) Par 4s : 4.05 (16.5%) Par 5s : 4.66 (43.4%) Assuming a 4-10-4 par72 it means... 0.52 / 1.65 / 1.73 = 3.90 birdies per round distribution... So yeah, they expect their birdies to come from those few Par5s... now, does that mean you can and should blow a gasket, that's another debate
  12. … or a sledgehammer : easier to replicate the golf club form and feel - and from the top is it definitely impossible to swing it if you try to force it down at the ball; gotta pressure and brace on the lead side and swing it around Great explanation by the way
  13. Correct - and as an aside; you never really want much of your wrists to go into radial deviation throughout your swing (they start being ulnar / become pretty flat in that direction and get back to ulnar at impact)… Having said that - you will see that having your wrist flexed will limit greatly it’s ability to get into radial deviation (it’s even impossible for some people) while it is very easy to be radial when extended… Combine the two and you will see why there are a lot of instruction that will prefer for the lead wrist to be bowed (flexed) at the top -> easier to get into a good impact position; rather than having a long way to go from extremely radial to ulnar in such a little amount of time
  14. Morikawa is a good example - some VOR going back and staying there in the downswing; so little time there from the top to impact - not much head rotation toward the ball, just his eyes looking at it from an angle
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