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  1. Thanks for the advice! I think I'll have to stay down in the Palm Springs area, I didn't do the planning. I hear good things all around about the Classic Club, so made a time there this week. I also haven't played PGA West Stadium and think I should, even though the difficulty might make me want to quit the game. The one course around the area that looks very cool is Thunderbird CC. Seems like a lot of history from there, if you have any suggestions on this course or others, I'd be very appreciative! Also, If you're in the area and want to get in a round somewhere that works for me. I'll probably head back to LA from Palm Springs early Sunday (Nov 28th) to leave Monday morning.
  2. Yes, they do seed the amateur ranks with very low cost or free everything. But don't all the manufacturers (at least the major ones being debated here) do it to the promising players? Which should effectively even the playing field given they're not paying these players any money (unless its under the table) which leaves the player to choose which is actually best? Which years do you refer to that Titleist didn't offer a forged iron? I'm no Titleist historian but I can remember they had a void in the market for several years in the early 2000s offering the 990's which were on the way out, and the DCI 962's / 981 which were dated. I happened to be in the market for irons at this time and was frustrated with no good Titleist options (681s would have been nice, but not realistic for my game at that time) so I ended up with TaylorMade 330s.
  3. Ditto, I don't love PXG mostly due to the annoying (VERY) advertisements and I can't speak to if they're worth the extra $$. I push back on Ping because it's a true golfer's brand - they haven't sold out to a bigger conglomerate and only make golf equipment (in the United States!) which is refreshing. I don't own a Callaway club but I think it's pretty universally accepted the metal woods are some of the best on the market. Never liked Nike, like they've done with other sports over the years, the company just throws big money at any sport they want to build a presence. This worked for awhile in the golf market, but eventually people saw the product inferiority and weren't willing to pay for the swoosh. Does anyone notice that Nike golf clubs aren't on the shelves anymore? After all, didn't they just reverse engineer other brands irons? Correct me if I'm wrong, and I have no quantitative evidence to support this claim, but it seems to me that a good indicator of a company's stature is the amateur market and what these players use on their own accord. A lot have responded that Titleist is "elitist" and I agree they USED to have a narrow offering only for better players, but I don't think this is the case any more. It's still the purest brand and thankfully seems to have upheld a lot of the traditions and craftsmanship of the old days. Just my two cents...
  4. Hi everyone. I need some travel advice so I can experience Palm Springs CA golf to it's fullest. For context and to set some parameters on the recommendations, I grew up playing in the Pinehurst area and now live in the northeast. I've mostly played courses considered "classic" for most of my golfing life, with many from the Golden Age era of design, but I can't help but love the genius of some of Mike Stranz's modern designs. No one else would take the bold risks he did and his courses are unique and memorable. Next week, I'm told we are to stay in a house Indian Canyons Golf Resort in Palm Springs. I've played desert golf in Arizona at the Biltmore, TPC Scottsdale, a few others, but not in the past several years. I didn't particularly like it but could have been youthful ignorance and also that I didn't play well. I'd greatly appreciate your advice, suggestions, or local knowledge on which courses are must plays and which I should skip. Courses you'd suggest for a golfer who walks almost without exception, has a preference for no homes in sight, and courses that I'll remember most of the holes rather than just one "signature." Generally, I'd really like a place that keeps the traditions of the game as a high priority. I thought about driving up to LA to play some of George Thomas' designs, but that's a little too far for others in the family who aren't as tuned into these things. Please help, and thank you!
  5. Agree with everything you wrote. I've only played it 1 time so am not quite qualified to comment yet, but I have a sense people like it for the way the holes blend in to the surrounding terrain and topography but also how they evolve through the forest to conclude in the dunes. The native landscapes change through the round but it evolves slowly and seems natural (it doesn't seem like they moved much dirt but I could be totally off)... That said, I still don't care to play it again. I had heard that the greens were pure and some of the best in the state. Not the case when I was there. It reminded me of some forgettable Fazio designed ocean resort course overcharging because people are there to play it for the first time on vacation.
  6. @Hawkeye77 I don't believe that you have it in you to hit a shot that doesn't go perfectly straight with maybe a little turn over left sometimes. I say this only partially joking, but on the few occasions you do receive one of your ProV1's back from a friend, you must get a small laugh right? Reminds me of a few times when I intended to hit a draw and it turned into far more of a hook and ended up on a parallel hole. I can't find the ball and give up, but then happen to find it when I loop around and play that hole during the round. We must remember, what is lost, can always be found!
  7. Who really cares? take it if you want to, but if you have a moral dilemma about taking a ball that obviously came to your bucket by accident, then hit it with your driver as the last shot before you leave the practice tee. That said, have you ever witnessed a good player that's playing random balls found while playing? I haven't.... The question is worth asking, but some of these responses are humorous given the amount of energy spent considering the options.
  8. I used to despise Patrick Reed. I still think he's a poor steward of the game and its illustrious traditions. However, about 5 months ago after he was caught (I say caught because I think it was uniformly acknowledged in the golf community and with highly respected players that he did break the rule intentionally) I got to thinking.... how many other players out on the Tour who we see regularly (or even those we barely ever see on TV) have sold out to one of the big OEM's for big money and have probably cost themselves some performance? You have to hand it to Reed, he hasn't backed down from his stand that he did nothing wrong, no matter how loud the scrutiny and he's plenty happy to be an outlaw out there and has taken that energy and used it to fuel his playing. He also plays what seems to work best for him and not what he's told to. I'd be watching his every move if I was playing with Patrick, but then again, now he's got me distracted from my own game and that can't be what I want. Not a fan, but not a hater. Not really sure what to think. I read in Golf Digest or Golf Magazine (can't remember) that he's friends with Webb Simpson. That should mean something.
  9. Sounds like you need to build your own private golf course. When it's done, lmk and I'll join you for a round!
  10. Agree with @Chanceman, @puttnforthe8 you'd really miss out if you didn't stop here. I can't think of a more pure place to play a round on that route you show. For that matter, not many this side of the pond. Safe travels, hopefully you'll see what we do!
  11. Motorized golf carts should be banned from use in all but the most extreme medical situations. Push carts aren't as pure as walking, but hats off to the golfer who brings one because they're annoyingly cumbersome and take up a gigantic amount of space in the car. I'd bet this person was a traditional walker in the past but realized the push cart is so much better for saving energy in the later parts of the round and carrying various sundries of items to help make the round more enjoyable. Clubs (private / public / etc.) shouldn't rely on making $ on cart fees. Sadly American golfers are just as lazy in this pursuit as they are in general life. Does anyone know of clubs that don't own electric / power golf buggies? Think about the last time you walked the course? Didn't you talk to your playing partners more and for longer periods than when riding? My guess is you got in a good flow and played better as well.
  12. Not very many. I'm a normal paced player on the course, but on the range it takes me forever to get situated and lined up, then I need to change my glove or something else, after this usually I've seen a friend (or competitor) on the tee and decide to say hello.... 20 min later I've hit 5 balls in total. It's an area where I should implement a process, but sometimes hitting balls is just a relaxing escape from life and it is what it is!
  13. I don't blame you and I bet you're not the only one. How could anyone not notice there's increasing flow towards the practice area? I'd feel horrible having someone waiting behind me knowing they're about to tee off in just a few minutes and haven't hit any yet. Some people are either in their own little bubble and haven't a clue what's going on around them, or worse, they know, but just don't care. I doubt this person has many regular playing companions, my guess is the courtesy (or lack of) shown to fellow golfers doesn't change much when he decides to finally leave his spot there.
  14. The first thing that comes to me when I read your post (hats off for your efforts to stay stylish on the course!) is ... are you going to bring a pair of back up shoes in the event an unexpected storm comes up during your round? Worse comes to worse, you just play barefoot in the rain, but I'm sure you've already thought this through. Thanks for sharing!
  15. I agree - age doesn't imply anything about the practice range's size or if you can / can't hit for a longer time. Sorry if it read that way. I think the consensus seems to be "read the situation"...which is what I thought it would be (and what it should be) but was hoping maybe some other readers would have wondered about this too and might share how they went about discretely deciding what to do. I probably should have also included in the OP that I was referring to ranges where balls are already provided (i.e. resort courses / private clubs / higher end public courses)... for example: (not the only time I've come across such a situation, but the most recent) I played at Arcadia Bluffs in Michigan this past week. It's a destination course and has a high price point worthy of one. The practice range and short game area are both well thought out and thorough. They're included with each player's round, as they should be. Hypothetically (we're barely able to make a tee time much less have any time to practice before a round) could I arrive 2 hours before my round and have a practice session, then go play? The range is large and hasn't ever been busy any of my visits. Further, could I play my round, then go hit balls afterwards for an hour? Hopefully this provides a little more color on my original question.
  16. This is what I would do: It seems you weren't in a place where it would matter if you made a total scene. I would declare in a loud enough voice so the entire range could hear very clearly "Excuse me ladies and gentleman, would you please refrain from your practice for a short few minutes, I have mistakenly committed what could be considered one of golf's true etiquette faults by hitting this gentleman's 5 seemingly abandoned balls into our common range area, he (pointing to him) has returned to rightfully claim his property after his 3 martini lunch. As you can see clearly, he's quite upset and confused.... That stated, if it's ok, I'd like to retrieve just 5 balls for him to alleviate his angst." Of course, you'd have to make such a declaration in your best satirical voice for full effect. And be ready for a real fight. But I bet he'd walk away tail between his legs and never bother you or anyone else at the range again.
  17. I'm very interested to hear what others think about a specific question I've been thinking about as I've visited lots of different practice tees recently. Growing up this never really crossed my mind as I assumed it was alright to spend a long time on any range no matter how big or small (likely youthful ignorance mixed with a type-A personality) After playing in several different regions of the country, it seems that many older courses have smaller driving ranges (or no range at all) which are often shorter in distance with only a handful of slots for players to hit. It seems pretty obvious that someone shouldn't set up for a 2 hour range session at one of these - they're assumed to be for a quick warm up for players about to head out. As the practice tee space increases though it might be alright to hang around for awhile or even come there to just hit balls, but I'm guessing protocol differs from course to course / club to club since everywhere has its own little unspoken rules. Any comments / thoughts / experiences on how to discretely discern when you can hit away for hours or when to hold off would be good to hear. I don't have a specific club where I'm questioning "can I or can't I" hit, I'm just curious to hear what's out there.
  18. this question got me thinking: are any of these "famous" YouTube golf instructors actually teaching daily similar to the way golf pro's did before all this online activity began several years ago? I know Gankas does teach off-camera, most of his video's seem to be actual lessons. The lessons and dialogue between him and the student is interesting on its own, instruction not so applicable to a lot of people I'd imagine but in theory probably right. My guess is that the YouTube instructors we've listed so far started out teaching all off camera but realized they can make a name for themselves (and more $$ of course) by spending a lot of time instructing to just the camera rather than a student. I used to watch a lot of these partly because they're catchy and I was hitting it bad and couldn't find a good instructor. They seemed like a decent way to help me deal with some perceived issues. You REALLY have to know your swing and what to apply from them though, otherwise all kinds of things can go awry. At the end of the day though, after reading Hogan's 5 Fundamentals, I've had trouble finding any drill from any YouTube instructor that didn't originate in that book. Something to be said for sticking with the classics I guess. (I finally found an instructor that's worth sticking with and made a promise on day 1 no more YouTube!)
  19. @jordan2240 How you treat your clubs is how they treat you... my guess is yours aren't so kind to the owner on most occasions. Why don't you ask them why they bother to remove and replace the headcovers at each use? See how your playing partners respond, then report back to the thread here.
  20. After reading most of these responses, it doesn't seem like there's a general consensus on any single factor that @acekun thinks he may be missing. Golf is a highly individual sport and the short game aspect even more so, so I'm not at all surprised everyone has their own way of approaching it. I don't think there's one single factor among great short gamers that you haven't yet discovered / don't understand. It could be a summation of a lot of little things adding up to just a few shots here and there. I shared my similar experience and what I came to believe below. My short game is similar to yours in that it's always been my weakest link. My observations after playing the game from an early age have been that players that are wizards on / around the greens have simply the most experience on a wide variety of courses which leads to the innate knowledge of how to play each unique shot. The only thing I can attribute this ability to is that they played on very difficult greens (difficult meaning fast, lots of undulations, elevated, small, multiple contours, etc. etc) from the first time they picked up a club. Think about it....if you played Pinehurst No. 2 daily, do you think you'd have a stronger short game than you do now? How about compared to another player who isn't so fortunate? I'm 100% convinced the reason my short game has always been my downfall and I was at best average from the areas you describe is that the course I grew up playing every day just didn't have "interesting" or remotely challenging greens. As we all know, to have a great golf course, you have to have great greens, and both require being well funded. Sad, but I feel its true that without lots of $$$, even greens which have the potential for greatness aren't uncovered or in their finest form. My advice would be to find a short game specialist. There are a lot of them it seems now, but the first that comes to mind is Stan Utley. There's a reason these instructors are known for a specific area of the game, and I think you'd find they're worth the money and can help in a differentiated way that even the best PGA Prof. can't. Good luck, I share your frustrations.
  21. @dgarland are you responsible for driving the mini-bus to matches? If so, incentivize good play with the low score on the team picking the music station for the ride back to school. My HS coach enjoyed classical music, so if we lost (which was pretty much never since we had two future PGA tour players on the team) we listened to classical music on the way home. Funny the way the world works, the one or two times I was the low score I picked one of the country stations (lots of options in the south)... but fast forward 20 years and I might actually make Coach proud and pick his favorite.
  22. I like courses that give you a lot of chances to quit, I.e. lots of little loops. Also good for singles late in the evening to play quickly on their own and not be stuck in the middle of nowhere walking in.
  23. Ditto @Shriner Champion Hill is a challenging, beautiful golf course. You can tell they barely touched the land and the vistas looking across the property from the top of the 9th & 15th tee box are among the best I've ever experienced in the game. Champion Hill pretty much sums up everything good about N. Michigan... family owned and operated, great value, I could go on. Will be interested to hear what you think about Mountain Ridge. A lot of the better known instructors in the area have made a stop at some point at the golf academy at crystal mountain, which has to be worth something. That said, remember that CM makes most of its revenue on the slopes, not the golf.
  24. I have worked on similar issues for the past several years and here's what has helped me get to a better impact position. #1 you want to be sure your left arm hasn't fully extended yet (meaning your right wrist still has some flex) Your clubhead is moving at the fastest position at this moment which you want to be just after the ball. I recently watched this video and it was very helpful to explain all of this to me: Now, I realize knowing that doesn't help you at all, but you have to know where you want to be to eventually get there. Agree with @BrianMcG the ball is too far back. Play it off your left EAR (meaning if you draw that parallel line 90 degrees down from your left ear it should hit the ball)... I didn't know this until recently but where you play the ball in your stance doesn't really matter as much. Crazy as it may seem, the ball position being up will get you a lot of the way towards where you want to be at impact. But not all the way.... I saw a new instructor about a month ago and he described the move from the top through impact to the finish as "heart to the sky" - until this description I NEVER understood what people meant when they say "using the ground".. Take your stance and grip the club with your left hand, put your right hand on your heart. Take it to the top of the swing and then with your right hand on your heart, before you move downwards at all, feel the "squat" everyone talks about and push off your right leg turning towards the target with your shoulders and hips at the same time. To me, it feels like a squat then a dip and a turn at the same time. That's what they mean when you hear "use the ground" is PUSH off that right foot an move left. The club does the rest. It moves down the target line on plane pretty much on its own. If you're doing it correctly, it will initially feel like you're going to hit a ball really heavy, like 5 inches behind the ball. Once you get this motion down, do some half swings and try to take it to the real shot. Here's what it looks like when I do it. By no means is it perfect, but I hope this helps demonstrate what I'm trying to describe above: Heart to Sky August 2o21.MOV
  25. Me too! Nothing looks as good as birdies & eagles feel.
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