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  1. As to "illegal" I was really wondering this too so asked a few attorneys I play with. The only charge they could think of was "potentially" identity theft (harm to pro the impersonated) which they both noted would be really tough to prove as they did not in said act financially harm this person BUT there could be long term damage aspects that would very hard to prove. As to defraud or obtain value, since the private club agreed to allow them to play (without verification???) for an agreed fee for services no monetary value was obtained or lost by either party involved. I do agree with everyone else, its interesting they were able to pull this off. I would suspect this is not a TOP 100 course as they all pretty much require the email process for validation. It is also very rare to not be unaccompanied at top clubs. Don't get me wrong you can do it if you reach out yourself (if you are a member of a top 100) to try and play said course but the rate is typically double and almost all require a caddie or forecaddie. Better hope that caddie/forecaddie does not know the club you faked LOL
  2. Seems to be a common statement on Deer Creek. Some like it but a majority do not.
  3. Deer Creek is being "reviewed" to "maybe" become development. It has been looked at in many aspects for a while. Financially it has always been borderline and with the tax change / costs to maintain / etc. it is on the cusp of many courses that have gone to the way side. The County has let other areas of it already be rezoned and the plan would be to rezone for commercial / residential.
  4. So not sure posted but why not make every player provide ID (drivers license or equal for each player) when they check in, if they play slow just ban them. If you have it listed on the website / booking / pro shop that all players are expected to keep pace, if you fall behind you have to skip a hole and if you dont will be banned from the course. Sounds harsh, but think how many people would want to play that course. Knowing everyone has the same mind set and the key one courtesy to other ...! You know you dont have to worry about 5 hour rounds.
  5. 100% agree but pretty much every CC list 4 hours for round of play. So as noted prior it comes down to others not giving a ×[#*#_×* about others
  6. The cost for the course was presented at 8 million. Total for all aspects which listed homes was 35 million.. *taken from the presentation they did for the project approval process
  7. Sorry I was being sarcastic. I think Pebble lives on the ocean views is all i was getting at. The course if not on the ocean would be pretty bland. I agree that the original Lido would be complete different for exactly what you state. Sadly we will never know, but it is nice to see someone trying to bring back a part of golf history as close as they can....though in a different area.
  8. Sarcasm... Recreating Pebble without the ocean would be just a decent public course. The views are amazing but the course is just "okay".
  9. This went right on the list of must play once heard about it.
  10. I worked on this deal 18+ years ago for the oringal ownership. Oakwood bought it from a group that Kronke was part of Will take alot if money to make it happen / develop but it is the only land really in the area. Needs a new overpass on E-470 and a lot of infastructure brought in. What we are concerned with...the golf course.. I heard they did talk to some top architects (not CC or Doak level but some decent ones... not sure who they picked) The GC was required to develop the property in the annexation agreementwith Aurora way back in the day. The home owners (Chenango ....who have money and time) fought us HARD to get the zoning allowed. The area was going to be open space / parks / trails and the was not good enough for them as they had he nerve to say they already use it for that even though it is private property... LOL The homeowners said they would not fight it if they built a golf course adjacent the houses as a buffer. As you can see they won twice over. Got what they wanted and will only increase proprty values for them. Dont know much on the course but could find out pretty easy.
  11. Wind plays a huge part to PD, besides those fun greens. 6 holes you can score on, 6 holes you are shooting for par, 6 holes your crossing you fingers based on wind. Spot on statement though you really have to play it a few times to really appreciate what your taking in. Someone called it "Definitely Old School".... Its not a bombers course like modern designs but it is long enough even without wind. Greens that take thought. You have to think your way around it, backwards....Green to Tee each hole.... plus the "gunch" will eat you alive
  12. Not really a contact it was a one off thing. Pretty sure the email to them would probably get you out.
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