golfortennis

I'm not the one telling people not to post stuff I don't want to hear. If you can't see the irony in your posts, well, that is your issue. Getting called on it is also how a forum works.

Or you can just skip over the post rather than trying to play forum cop. Shouldn't tell people to take up badminton if they don't want to hear tributes, and then try and control what gets posted.

After watching some this afternoon, it is obvious they are way over the top with the Palmer tributes. I get it on one hand, but the reality is after the namesake's pass on, the event needs something else to maintain it's special place. They said Spieth is playing here for the first time to honor Palmer. Wouldn't it be better to honor someone while they are still alive?

How do you know it's mostly fat?

He was on with Breed this week and said they put in a rule unless he is within 3 strokes of the field average he will no longer be able to use his past champion exemption for this event. Not sure if the DQ impacts that or not. He acknowledged there was a good chance it was his last time playing in the event.

So instead of guys who come in from Q school and lose their card, come back and do it again, they come from the KFT, lose their card, do it all again. Most of these "bottom of the barrel" guys have status that allow them into tournaments anyway. Look at the Puerto Rico tournament last week. A huge number of those guys would fall into that category. Any one of them wins, and your last sentence's "problem" is back in place. Jhonattan Vegas, Grayson Murray, Ted Potter, Jr., could fit the description, and they all top tenned.

Yes, Deane Beman put it well: Jack Nicklaus and Tom Watson need guys to play against in order for them to be the stars they are. And that is fine. Nothing wrong with the exempt tour. It's the constant closing of the door to enter that is the problem. It was crazy back then, but it's swung a little too far the other way now. The money alone gives comfort, why also toss in so many status protections?

Golf fans are funny that way, aren't they? Every other sport they would be all in for an underdog, but golf.... not so much. There is plenty of safety net already if you have a decent resume. At worst a sponsor's exemption gets those guys in. It isn't so much that though, but that a guy loses opportunities. For no reason other than what I stated before, a guy who could pull down close to a million for playing well one week, now has to slog through and hope to make $300k to get the opportunity for that million. I'm not one of those people who say "how many more millions does a

Well, gee, imagine a guy a who for four straight seasons maintains tour status, wins twice, and then serves mandatory military service, and isn't able to keep playing at the same level right away. Actually this is a perfect example of why it's BS. He wouldn't be any different had he had "the training" for the tour. Dude was 26th on the list before Korea forced him back home. Players aren't better because of that tour. Lucas Glover was a 2019 "graduate." What did he "learn" he didn't know from winning a US open before that? Dylan Fritelli cut his teeth on the sunshine and eu

Well there is another thread that has a number of posters saying hard work is all it takes...

This is why I never bought the "training for the tour" BS when they changed the Q school process. It was number one, to try and increase the value of sponsoring that tour, and two, had the side benefit of closing shop a little more. Sang Moon Bae made over a million dollars coming out of q school. He didn't need "training." It just closes shop so guys can hang on longer.

But handicaps are not designed to "slot" players by ability so much as they are designed to make matches equitable. The slope represents the incremental difficulty for a bogey golfer vs a scratch. Ie., there is plenty of trouble, hazards, etc., that a bogey golfer contends with that a scratch doesn't even see. I used to think the same way you do, but then I started playing some matches, both single and fourball, and you would be amazed at how many times a match you think should be one-sided actually goes 16 or more holes.

I have this argument with people who go on about the junior hockey leagues here in Canada and how great they are for players. This may have changed in recent years, but the kids get an "education package" for each year in the league, but they forfeit it if they sign a professional contract. Well, jeez, a 20-year old who has played hockey hos whole life has someone come along and say I'll pay you $15,000 to play hockey for me is going to find that an attractive offer.

Nobody else is curious about *that*? This is where the thread got interesting, IMHO.

You're joining a private club that is basically waiving initiation? I would ask a few questions, in particular, capital assessments. Too good to be true, usually is. It sounds good on the surface, but .. how old is this place? Are they hurting for members? And why? This is one time I would think a club hurting for members is a big red flag. But maybe I'm too ultra cautious.