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Anyone got a pic of the rattler? Where did they see it?

"Well said, Rich. For those of you just tuning in, let's recap what you have missed. The first US Open held at Torrey Pines was in 2008, won by Tiger Woods. Apparently some guys are playing golf today out here, but let's look back at that 2008 classic." 35 minutes later.... "Brings tears to my eyes. Don't worry, we'll all get another chance to watch it again in 10 minutes. Now for these words from our sponsors."

If anyone playing the 2008/Woods drinking game tuned in at 3pm EST, they are pretty much drunk already.

BUt they don't put the pin on the left on Sunday very often. Even when the pin is front right you see guys playing right of the green. Players don't want to mess with the trees on the right because, sure you can get lucky, but really you don't want to take the chance. So you play further left than you would before. The trees came in about 98 or so. Possibly a few years later, but they're called Hootiewood apparently, because it happened while Hootie Johnson was in charge of the club and the toonamint.

BUt they don't put the pin on the left on Sunday very often. Even when the pin is front right you see guys playing right of the green. Players don't want to mess with the trees on the right because, sure you can get lucky, but really you don't want to take the chance. So you play further left than you would before. The trees came in about 98 or so. Possibly a few years later, but they're called Hootiewood apparently, because it happened while Hootie Johnson was in charge of the club and the toonamint.

Steve Sands will not be denied his use of the airtime.

I better get a lottery ticket now. I just so happened to go up to talk to my wife about something and missed the whole thing.

tl;dr.

They don't want additional tee boxes, but the suggestion to move it up some would require that. So it's a non-starter. I just think that by putting the threat onto the tee shot has really taken the water out of play, and taking the water out of play takes away from the hole more than the trouble off the tee as it stands adds to it. Agree completely no one ever imagined a shot could be put over there.

If he pulls it off great. But more importantly, a good performance this week is both $ and world ranking points for him. Possibly even exemption into more majors. This is the other side of the professional tours. Not everyone can win the tournament. BUt a tournament can be a win for many players.

Maybe unfair was the wrong word. I wish someone had a chart of where shots were taken on that hole. It just puts everyone aiming for that area to the right of the green. The other problem is Augusta has only ever had tournament tees and member tees, and the member tees are so short (for the pros) they could never use them in the tournament. I highly doubt they want to create additional tee boxes. Just get rid of Hootiewood.

I forget if it was Duval or Leonard, but one thing they had suggested(especially if back was not a option), was lowering the tee box and moving it a bit left. Was intriguing. Hopefully they incorporate a bit of it, and not just move it back.

Bingo. Less words than I used to say what I was thinking.

We're not talking about the 3rd shot. Don't move the trees. Get rid of them. When you force guys left off the tee, on a 505 yard par 4, the angle to play is to the right. You watch the number of approach shots that land in that collection area to the right of the green, and it's much, much more frequent than when it once was. When Faldo won in 89 and 90, he holed a putt on 11 to a flag that was in the back left. The following year, Raymond Floyd put his approach shot in the water, trying to get to a flag in the same general area. Now the flag is usually middle/right because

You have to remember NBC didn't know they were covering this until pretty late in the game(relative to the planning that goes into things like this). They have contractual obligations to the olympic stuff, and they couldn't get everything moved.