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I was wondering if anyone has used the Quad to fit/practice putters. At my facility we have 3, we used to have a putting area where we would fit customers with the Quad. But, we found that the software does not read launch data very accurately. We consistently get a launch of .5* or 1.0* on a 5 foot putt. We have experimented and putt with a an 8* head and added 3* when striking the putt and still get the same results. Is foresight aware of this and has anyone else experienced the same issue?
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Has anyone used or have one of these ES Sports 20/20 perfect vision launch monitor?
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Long Iron Peak Height - Clubhead vs Shaft
MofoJones posted a topic in Avg Joe Swings Stiff and Below
What's the most important factor in producing height in long irons? Ball Speed? The technology in the clubhead itself - Ie. Club head center of gravity? The shaft profile you choose - different kick points and tips? AMT(ascending Mass Technology) in your shafts? What is it? I have always struggled in getting height in my mid-long irons. It really led me to struggle in my par 5 scoring when I am sitting pretty around 200 yards out from the green after my drive. I am a fairly high speed player (Routinely swinging it around 115-120 mph with my driver and ~129mph ball speed with 7 iron at 35* loft) so it just doesn't make much sense to me why I hit my long irons low. I would obviously like to jump on a monitor when I am using a long iron to see the dynamics that are going on, but there's just none available where I am situated. I do feel like I swing my irons on the slow side in comparison to my driver. As we know there can be added technology in the iron faces to produce more ball speed which is an important factor in peak height. There is also CG positioning in the face - the lower the center of gravity/mass the higher the club should launch and spin. For both of these reasons there is a strong following with amateurs and professionals to make a combo iron set. Get some added technology in those long irons to help you hit them higher and land like a butterfly with a sore leg. There is also the shaft profiles in itself that can be designed to help you with peak height especially in those long irons. These shafts have the same weight throughout the set, but they change their profiles according to the clubs; Short and Long irons. The more lofted irons will have a shaft profile to help you flight the shots down and the long irons with a shaft profile to help with increasing the peak height. These shafts use a progressive kick point throughout the set make up - so the long irons will have a lower kick point/ softer tip. An example of a shaft with this technology in them would be the KBS Tour FLT. A Personal experience: I was wondering if anyone has actually compared AMT (ascending Mass Technology) shafts to their same weight counter parts via launch monitor? Disappointingly I couldn't find anything on youtube. Or compared the flighted models of shafts vs non-flighted in those long irons via launch monitor? I have tried a friends Titleist T100 in the AMT White S400 and I was hitting his four iron in a much higher window than I was used to seeing. However I don't think it was a CAUSATION of the shaft. I play Project X 6.5 in some Mizuno MP-58 blades, so I have a few things working against me to get that ball in the air. While his 4i was a Titleist T100 that is supposed to have a little bit of added technology to help you in the long irons AND obviously the Dynamic Gold AMT White shafts. I would say there was a 20-30 feet difference in peak height. I instantly thought of all the par 5's I could crush hitting a nice high and soft mid to long iron into. Especially if the green is a forced carry with bunkers or water. Does anybody else have any experiences with increasing their long iron peak height they wanted to share? -
Quick preamble...I'm a 43 year old 8 handicap, play 5 or 6 times a month, shoot in the low-to-mid 80's, try to break 80 every time I tee it up, which I probably do once or twice every 10 rounds. I don't buy equipment regularly...I probably freshen up my bag every 10 years or so. I've only been fit for equipment twice...a driver fitting at the Callaway Performance Center in Vegas maybe 15 years ago for an old driver I no longer use, and an iron fitting at Ping in Scottsdale about nine years ago (and I still game the G20's I got from that fitting). I've decided to get legitimately fit for a new driver this year to replace my ten year old Callaway Razr FIT that I bought after basically doing my own personal fitting (by which I mean I hit a few different heads and shafts without a fitter on a simulator at a Golfsmith in midtown Manhattan and picked what performed best.) I've been doing a lot of research to figure out the best fitting experience for the average golfer that is both in-depth and affordable. Finding the best option has been a struggle. I'll also say (and no offense to anyone reading this), but my experiences in general with people who work in the golf services industry have not been great. Although there have been a couple of exceptions, most of the teaching pros and fitters I've dealt with have been, in my opinion, lazy, unmotivated, and gave off the impression that they would have rather been just about anywhere else than helping me with my golf game. Hoping for a better experience, I first looked into potentially doing a driver fitting at Club Champion. To evaluate their process, I watched several CC fitting vlogs that people posted to YouTube, and came away unimpressed. It seems the CC fitting experience is very cookie-cutter, and after watching a handful of videos, several patterns emerged (and it became clear the fitters were following a script of sorts): Have player hit 3 or 4 balls w/ their current driver (which inevitably were too high spinning) Pull very expensive aftermarket shaft (or 3) off wall, pair it with players current head, have player hit 3 or 4 more balls, observe how spin is reduced Once player was sold that "this is the shaft for you," pair said expensive aftermarket shaft with variety of new heads to get ideal spin, speed, and launch numbers Once optimal combo is determined, fitter tells player that is the perfect head/shaft combo for them, at which point they tell them that the driver is $500, the shaft is an additional $400, and when all is said and done, your new driver is $1200 including fitting, tax, etc. (And conveniently, the $150 hour long fitting session is now over, so there is no opportunity to try any of the stock shafts that don't have any upcharge) I'll be honest...I am not looking to spend $1200 on a driver. Nor am I looking to have a fitting experience where the fitter is making a commission on the fitting and is incentivized to put me in the most expensive aftermarket shaft they can talk me into. Especially since I know brands like Ping and Titleist offer a great range of legit, aftermarket shafts as stock options. So, because of the commission structure, cookie cutter experience, and tendency to put players into extremely expensive aftermarket shafts from the get-go, I decided to pass on Club Champion. Next, I reached out to a very highly rated private fitter in Northern NJ. The fitter (who I will not name because I'm not trying to be overly critical of them) offers an indoor hitting bay with a garage door and a Trackman that allows you to hit out on to a range while still getting Trackman data. I was very interested, although had a couple concerns: 1. While I know people generally recommend doing an outdoor fitting in order to have the benefit of seeing the actual ball flight, this fitting is done with range balls. I can't help but question the value of seeing the ball flight while using balls that may spin way more/less and launch much higher/lower than the premium ball that I would usually play. What is the value of seeing the ball flight if the ball flight isn't remotely what it will be like on the course? 2. I learned through research that Trackman does have algorithms that convert range ball data to premium ball data to mitigate the range ball affect during fittings (and the conversion is supposedly pretty accurate), but at the end of the day, what is the point of hitting range balls outside only to have a computer convert the data? Aren't I better off hitting premium balls indoors on a GC Quad where I'm theoretically getting legit data instead of some algorithm approximation? All that being said, I was very excited to go to this fitter. He has worked with tour pros and has a lot of great reviews online. That was until I had a less than stellar customer service experience... I sent three emails to schedule a fitting and received no response. After the third email, I called and finally spoke to someone who said that someone else would get back to me to schedule my fitting appointment. I was contacted by a really nice PGA club professional who set up a fitting for me the following week. The day of the fitting, the pro reached out to me to say that they were having trouble with their Trackman, and they might have to reschedule. He then called me about an hour before my fitting to say the Trackman still wasn't working and we definitely had to reschedule. I rescheduled for later that week. About 5 hours before my 2nd fitting appointment, I emailed the pro to make sure we were confirmed for later that day. He responded that we'd have to cancel again because they had to get a new Trackman because they couldn't fix the old one, and the new one hadn't been installed yet. (A fact that I'm sure he knew well in advance, and I was left wondering when he was planning on calling me to cancel the 2nd appointment). By that point, I was a bit annoyed, considering that I had to be the one to chase them down to find out if our appointment was happening or not. Again, back to my complaint about the golf industry. This type of thing would never fly with a physician or an auto mechanic. But it has happened to me repeatedly with golf industry professionals. But I digress... The pro asked me to suggest some additional dates that would work for me. I said ok. I haven't contacted him since, and he's never followed up. He was a very nice guy. Polite. Apologetic. But by that point I was annoyed and decided I didn't want to give him my money. By this point, I had done so much research into the fitting process that I almost think I could fit myself. I swing the driver around 105 mph. I know I need a head and shaft combo that launches the ball in the 13 to 15 degree range, spins it in the 2000-2300 rpm range, and gives me a ball speed in the low 150's. Part of me wishes I could just go to an indoor bay with a GC Quad, hit a bunch of drivers and different shafts for 2 hours, and pick what performs best with the best launch numbers and tightest dispersion. Ultimately I decided to book a Tour Van Fitting with a certified master fitter at a PGA Tour Superstore in Paramus, NJ. First, their fitting prices are cheaper than anywhere else. Second, they use GC Quad, which, by all indications, is superior to Trackman indoors (although I've read that Trackman is more accurate when used outside...something to do with radar limitations at short distances indoors that makes GC quad better). Ultimately, I feel like I know enough about the equipment and process at this point to know what I'm looking for, and I think if I have a fitter who is halfway competent, I'll be able to find an almost perfect head and stock shaft offering that performs incredibly well. Could I perhaps get slightly better performance with an aftermarket shaft...probably. And I'm not opposed to trying some (if they even have any at PGATSS) to see how much better they perform than the stock options, and I'd be open to spending the extra money if the performance boost is significant. But, if it ends up being like I've seen in a lot of YouTube videos, the $400 aftermarket shaft often buys you two extra yards of carry and a marginally better dispersion. Totally worth it for a tour player. Not really worth it for me, especially given the fact that, as I mentioned, the likes of Ping and Titleist offer legit (not-made-for) Tensei and Aldila shafts as stock options. I'm particularly interested in hitting the Ping G425 as I've heard it is the most forgiving driver ever made. My feeling is, if I like the head, and I can't find a good combo between the stock Alta CB, Ping Tour, Tensei Raw Orange, and the Aldila Rogue White options, then I've got a problem. I'm equally interested in trying the TSi2/TSi3 and the many aftermarket shaft options Titleist offers as stock or with a slight upcharge. At the end of the day, I want to spend around $500-$600 on a new driver that optimizes my launch conditions, period. I don't want to spend $1200 on a driver that optimizes my launch conditions slightly better than the $500 driver. I was put off by Club Champion because they seem like a car dealership who does everything they can to get you to pay for the undercoating you don't really need. I was put off by the mom and pop shop because they simply weren't great at customer service, and I was skeptical about the so-called benefits their fitting offered, although I like to think they would have spent more time with me in a low pressure environment. So I'm rolling the dice with the big box retailer given that a) I feel like I'm much more knowledgeable about the whole process then when I started and know what I want and what to look for, and b) the fitter I'm scheduled with has numerous certifications and I hope is somewhat competent. I think between those two things, I'm confident that I'll come away with a great driver setup. And worst case scenario, I'll hit a ton of shots with a bunch of head/shaft combos and find another fitter if I don't like the experience or results. Anyway, this ended up being much longer than I intended, but I hope it may be helpful for other anal retentives who may have questions about the fitting process. I'd love to hear others thoughts on their experiences and recommendations, and I'll bump the thread once I have my PGA Tour SS fitting next week. Chug
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I was wondering if the Mevo+ works with high swing speeds. Are the swing speed and ball speed fairly accurate? Can it measure 140mph+ swing speeds and 200mph ball speed? When I bought the original Mevo, I noticed that it does not so it was completely useless with my driver. I even called and they "suggested" that the Mevo+ might work but an X3 or Xi Tour would be better ( way out of my pricerange). I'm a good golfer and I don't spray the ball. This has been tested on the Range and the Course and the numbers don't match up.Here are my swing speed numbers with the regular Mevo and club specs.Driver Specs: Cobra Speedzone 44.5 inch Driver. Graphite Design TourAD DI 8x ( I'll be switching to Paderson Ballistic XX in Oct)3 iron: Cobra Forged Tec KBS Tour C-Taper ( Thinking on switching to X7 hard stepped)
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Rapsodo Launch Monitor - $275 + Shipping CONUS only TaylorMade Stealth Driver - 9°, Regular flex Stock Fujikura shaft. I can swap out with a stiff HZRDUS Smoke iM10 if you want. - $400 + Shipping CONUS Only
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Price Drop! Thanks for checking everything out. All items shipped UPS. Open to offers. No trades please. Don’t miss out this long forgiving set. Just look at the reviews. Titleist T300 5-GW. Purchased new in January 2021 for $165/club. Played about 25 rounds. See pictures to confirm excellent condition. Close ups are of 7i that is in the “worst” condition. No significant blemishes on any iron. Happy to answer questions. Heads: Titleist T300 Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Red AV2 Reg Standard L/L/L see specs here: https://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/irons/t300 $825 $700Shipped UPS (I’m all set with USPS) SC 200 Personal Launch Monitor. Comes with remote. All functions including voice fully functional. Local range just added trackman range so I don’t have a need for this anymore. $165 $125 shipped. SOLD Driver Shaft- Project X Evenflow 5.5, 55g. Regripped with midsize MCC +4 Align. Callaway LH adapter. $55 $45 Shipped. Purging some of the hat collection. All snap back closures. Mention which one(s) you want with a purchase above and it will make its way into the box for a penny. If no purchase $30 for the lot shipped.
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What's the most important factor in producing height in long irons? Ball Speed? The technology in the clubhead itself - Ie. Club head center of gravity? The shaft profile you choose - different kick points and tips? AMT(ascending Mass Technology) in your shafts? What is it? I have always struggled in getting height in my mid-long irons. It really led me to struggle in my par 5 scoring when I am sitting pretty around 200 yards out from the green after my drive. I am a fairly high speed player (Routinely swinging it around 115-120 mph with my driver and ~129mph ball speed with 7 iron at 35* loft) so it just doesn't make much sense to me why I hit my long irons low. I would obviously like to jump on a monitor when I am using a long iron to see the dynamics that are going on, but there's just none available where I am situated. I do feel like I swing my irons on the slow side in comparison to my driver. As we know there can be added technology in the iron faces to produce more ball speed which is an important factor in peak height. There is also CG positioning in the face - the lower the center of gravity/mass the higher the club should launch and spin. For both of these reasons there is a strong following with amateurs and professionals to make a combo iron set. Get some added technology in those long irons to help you hit them higher and land like a butterfly with a sore leg. There is also the shaft profiles in itself that can be designed to help you with peak height especially in those long irons. These shafts have the same weight throughout the set, but they change their profiles according to the clubs; Short and Long irons. The more lofted irons will have a shaft profile to help you flight the shots down and the long irons with a shaft profile to help with increasing the peak height. These shafts use a progressive kick point throughout the set make up - so the long irons will have a lower kick point/ softer tip. An example of a shaft with this technology in them would be the KBS Tour FLT. A Personal experience: I was wondering if anyone has actually compared AMT (ascending Mass Technology) shafts to their same weight counter parts via launch monitor? Disappointingly I couldn't find anything on youtube. Or compared the flighted models of shafts vs non-flighted in those long irons via launch monitor? I have tried a friends Titleist T100 in the AMT White S400 and I was hitting his four iron in a much higher window than I was used to seeing. However I don't think it was a CAUSATION of the shaft. I play Project X 6.5 in some Mizuno MP-58 blades, so I have a few things working against me to get that ball in the air. While his 4i was a Titleist T100 that is supposed to have a little bit of added technology to help you in the long irons AND obviously the Dynamic Gold AMT White shafts. I would say there was a 20-30 feet difference in peak height. I instantly thought of all the par 5's I could crush hitting a nice high and soft mid to long iron into. Especially if the green is a forced carry with bunkers or water. Does anybody else have any experiences with increasing their long iron peak height they wanted to share?
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I love my MEVO+ and think it's amazing for the price. Like any PLM, the more flight (mat-to-net) distance you have, the better overall experience you will have. Generally, estimates of full swing pitching wedge up through hybrids should require minimal adjustment. Limiting factors are: 1. The actual space you have (the more the better; you will always need 7-8 feet from unit to impact spot) 2. The "extreme" ends of clubs you will be hitting (thinking LW/SW and Driver) Hitting wedges will dictate height of your net, which limits your flight distance. The lower your net, the closer it needs to be to hitting area. At the other end, your flight distance needs to be optimized for your driver swing speed. I swing driver in low 90s, and I'm satisfied with reads I get at nine feet of flight. My SWAG at optimal flight distance is one foot of flight for every 10 mph of driver club speed. So 100mph needs 10 feet of flight. I suspect the guys at 110+ probably need regular indoor mode and 12' of flight, minimum. Calibration Tip: After setup, using dots on balls, hit drivers and look at the app spin data. If you see most shots with total spin in italics, you probably need more flight distance. Increasing flight distance should reduce the number of reported estimates in italics. You may find your personal "cliff" where the italics disappear on most shots and that is good! For you, that means MEVO+ measured enough spin to report a confident estimate in carry and shot shape.
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Asking as a PGA Professional coach. How much would you want a fitting incorporated into your lessons? In the scenario, the coach is not a retailer, so there is no sales motive within the context of the lesson.
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Here she be, my in-garage, heated bay Skytrak sim. Being from WI, winters can get cruel and long, so this purchase has already paid big dividends in making that much more tolerable. I’ve included video of the entire setup which details the various pieces of equipment and a few of the costs. Also, midway though I play a few holes to demonstrate the software and playability. I really LOVE having this and wouldn’t trade it for almost anything. It’s possibly the most well-spent money of my life! **WARNING** -LONG WINDED ARSE IN VIDEO, FEEL FREE TO FAST-FORWARD AND SKIP PORTIONS AS NEEDED!!!- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_CnD0FJdiI
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Time to clear out some sticks that don't get any course time. These things have been babied or not even seen a round. I was collecting a bunch of special putters for my young daughter to have a collection as she get's older, but need to make room, and she's 4, so i can't sit that long on stuff 🤣 Scotty Newport 2 - 34" - minor wear; Super Stroke Slim 2.0 brand new grip; Sticker still on bottom of putter (minor wear on top line as seen in pictures) $old Scotty FastBack Select - 34.5" - Absolutely beautiful rainbow PVD finish; Super Stroke Piston GTR 1.0 minty grip Mint and never gamed since purchasing, not a single round or outside practice green $old Olson Manufacturing - 34" - This is a putter I bought off the original owner, who purchased this one of a kind 1/1 left handed retro prototype form Logan Olson directly Mint and has never seen a single round, and just one outside practice green session for about 45 minutes. This is an amazing opportunity to own a special piece for a putter manufacturer who's blowing up and making some special pieces ($old) Olson Manufacturing - 33: - This is a putter I bought recently and rolled a few on the perfect practice matt at the house. Amazing feel, setup, look, headcover....list goes on. I hate to part with this, but just not going to replace my SC FB with Stability shaft that's currently in the bag. ($old) Swing Caddie SC300 - Used two times at range session Absolutely mint ($old) References if needed, and more pictures available if desired. Appreciate the looks folks.