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> @Shriner said:

> Anybody able to throw out a few suggestions? I will be going to the Traverse City area in the near future and will only have time for one round. Last time there, we played Dunmaglas and LOVED the scenery, drop dead gorgeous. It was overpriced for the conditions, but the scenery and layout made up for it to some extent. Sundance at A-Ga-Ming golf resort? Any suggestions?

 

What side of town will you be on? I like to play Manitou Passage when I'm on the west wide and Lochenheath when I'm on the east side. Sundance is a good cheaper and easier alternative to Lochenheath.

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> @TheMagicStinger said:

> It's more of a family trip and not golf specific. I guess I'd be up for driving an hour to somewhere higher end.

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> > @HappyGilmoresBoots said:

> > > @TheMagicStinger said:

> > > > @HappyGilmoresBoots said:

> > > > > @HappyGilmoresBoots said:

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> > I'll be completely honest - if you're making a trip here specifically for golf, then Maple Hill, Winding Creek, and Gleneagle are fun, but certainly not high-end courses. Macatawa is owned by [Watermark Properties](https://www.watermarkpropertiesclubs.com/ "Watermark Properties"), all of which are super nice...but, about half are members only. I've only played Mac, so I can't comment on any of the other Watermark properties. Wallinwood was pretty high end, then the recession hit, but I think they've recovered quite well. LE Kaufman (metro GR) and Diamond Springs (about due south of GR, and straight southeast of Holland) are both listed on the Sugarloaf Social Club "[hidden gem](https://www.sugarloafsocialclub.com/hidden-gem-project "hidden gem")" list.

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In that case, the first 3 I listed are quite family friendly. There are a lot of nice courses in the triangle between Grand Rapids, Holland, and Muskegon (some stinkers too, don't get me wrong), and even more if you venture just a wee little bit outside of those 3 points ([10 minutes south of Holland](https://www.ravinesgolfclub.com/ "10 minutes south of Holland"), [15 minutes east of Grand Rapids](https://bouldercreekgolfclub.com/ "15 minutes east of Grand Rapids"), etc.)

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> @Shriner said:

> Thanks! Lochenheath looks beautiful and very close but is it private? I believe the town we are in is called Kewadin.

Lochenheath is still semi-private and allows outside play, I believe. A-Ga-Ming is definitely very close to Kewadin. Lochenheath is maybe 15-20 minutes south on 31. Lochenheath is a superior course, but the Sundance course at A-Ga-Ming is nice, too, and less expensive.

 

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best golf course near charlevoix for an afternoon round tomorrow and morning round Friday? I am thinking maybe Champion Hill tomorrow and Arcadia South Friday anything I am missing before I head South? Thanks so much Belve is closed so sad to miss it but holy smokes Damangles was an amazing surprise.

 

**** looking for same info as above @Shriner was looking for thanks

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For what it is worth, I ended up playing Sundance and was VERY impressed. For $65, you cannot go wrong. It was extremely windy yesterday so it made the course pretty difficult, especially the 450 yd par 4's on the back nine. However, the nice conditions, beautiful scenery and course layout made it a very enjoyable day. I would play this course again in a heartbeat.

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> @Shriner said:

> For what it is worth, I ended up playing Sundance and was VERY impressed. For $65, you cannot go wrong. It was extremely windy yesterday so it made the course pretty difficult, especially the 450 yd par 4's on the back nine. However, the nice conditions, beautiful scenery and course layout made it a very enjoyable day. I would play this course again in a heartbeat.

 

I agree. I paid $80 but was still well worth it. Also the bloody Mary from the bar across the parking lot was awesome!

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> @Shriner said:

> For what it is worth, I ended up playing Sundance and was VERY impressed. For $65, you cannot go wrong. It was extremely windy yesterday so it made the course pretty difficult, especially the 450 yd par 4's on the back nine. However, the nice conditions, beautiful scenery and course layout made it a very enjoyable day. I would play this course again in a heartbeat.

 

Going up north tomorrow, would you rather play Sundance or Manitou Passage for $47? I haven't played either of them.

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> @"Timbo Slice" said:

> > @Shriner said:

> > For what it is worth, I ended up playing Sundance and was VERY impressed. For $65, you cannot go wrong. It was extremely windy yesterday so it made the course pretty difficult, especially the 450 yd par 4's on the back nine. However, the nice conditions, beautiful scenery and course layout made it a very enjoyable day. I would play this course again in a heartbeat.

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> Going up north tomorrow, would you rather play Sundance or Manitou Passage for $47? I haven't played either of them.

 

Both are nice, Sundance is better.

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> > @"Timbo Slice" said:

> > > @Shriner said:

> > > For what it is worth, I ended up playing Sundance and was VERY impressed. For $65, you cannot go wrong. It was extremely windy yesterday so it made the course pretty difficult, especially the 450 yd par 4's on the back nine. However, the nice conditions, beautiful scenery and course layout made it a very enjoyable day. I would play this course again in a heartbeat.

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> > Going up north tomorrow, would you rather play Sundance or Manitou Passage for $47? I haven't played either of them.

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> Both are nice, Sundance is better.

 

Sundance is easier also imo

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Protip: If you're playing a course with a lot of walnut trees, maybe don't play a greenish-yellow ball that blends into the walnuts nearly exactly.

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Probably should have taken your advice about Sundance. I ended up choosing Manitou Passage and though I had fun and it's a good course, I wasn't blown away like I usually am by up north golf. Maybe that's what I get for playing so many top-tier courses this year, starting to compare to top notch courses.

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> @"Timbo Slice" said:

> Probably should have taken your advice about Sundance. I ended up choosing Manitou Passage and though I had fun and it's a good course, I wasn't blown away like I usually am by up north golf. Maybe that's what I get for playing so many top-tier courses this year, starting to compare to top notch courses.

 

Manitou Passage is that Arnold Palmer course that was once part of Sugarloaf Resort, correct? I've never gotten out there but always assumed it would be a very nice course.

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> > @"Timbo Slice" said:

> > Probably should have taken your advice about Sundance. I ended up choosing Manitou Passage and though I had fun and it's a good course, I wasn't blown away like I usually am by up north golf. Maybe that's what I get for playing so many top-tier courses this year, starting to compare to top notch courses.

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> Manitou Passage is that Arnold Palmer course that was once part of Sugarloaf Resort, correct? I've never gotten out there but always assumed it would be a very nice course.

 

it is a palmer course,dont know if it was part of sugarloaf. they are right down the rd from each other so very possible.

I've always enjoyed the course,hard not too such a great part of Michigan.

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This was the universe telling me that I suck at golf:

![](https://i.imgur.com/PBQHNLi.jpg "")

 

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Srixon Z565 Driver, 4W, 4H

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Heads up, west siders: Community Action House thrift store in Holland has a full set of Ping Zing irons for $20

 

edit:

They were gone by 5 this evening when I went back to pick 'em up. Here's hoping someone cool got the clubs!

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Srixon Z565 Driver, 4W, 4H

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Some of the courses that I have played for the first time this year that have exceeded expectations are...

1. Virtues- near Columbus, OH

2. Wild Rock- Wisconsin Dells

3. Blackthorn- South Bend, IN

4. The Legend @ Shanty Creek

5. Bucks Run in Mt. Pleasant

6. Stonewater CC in Caledonia, MI

7. Black Lake Onaway, MI

 

The courses that were good but was semi disappointed in....

1. Manitou Passage

2. Sunnybrook CC in Grandville, MI

3. Cedar Chase in Cedar Springs, MI

 

What are some of yours?

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> @"Timbo Slice" said:

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> The courses that were good but was semi disappointed in....

> 1. Manitou Passage

> 2. Sunnybrook CC in Grandville, MI

> 3. Cedar Chase in Cedar Springs, MI

>

> What are some of yours?

 

How was Sunnybrook? I grew up near there (actually, that's where me and my adolescent miscreant friends would go hunt for golf balls), and it's always been on my list...unfortunately, all the old neighbors who were members there have moved away and I no longer have any connections there...

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Srixon Z565 Driver, 4W, 4H

Ping G400 5-U

Kirkland Sig Wedges

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> @"Timbo Slice" said:

> My neighbors are members and took me to Sunnybrook and Stonewater. Sunnybrook is flat and not much to look at, which is huge for me. Stonewater is awesome. From Crystal Springs neighborhood it looks like nothing special, but it is a lot of fun.

 

Did you play a full 18? I know Sunnybrook has at least 1 hilly hole across 44th St, though I thought there were 2 or 3...in my later miscreancy, I'd skateboard the cart path over there. Then some jerks spray-painted the road, curbs, and houses and blew the spot out.

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My wife and I played the links-quarry at Boyne a few weeks ago.

 

Great views,conditioning, and staff. Course design was interesting but somewhat lacking with a few to many layup and blind shots required. We got a once in a life time deal (almost free) and played in less than 4 hours.

 

Earlier this summer we also played both of the Arcadia courses. The bluffs was as good as I remembered and the south was an interesting alternative. Again we had both courses to ourselves playing at twilight.

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Looking back, I've barely played anywhere new this year, and only about 50 rounds total. Man, that's terrible!

The Loop - I don't understand the love for this place. It's not really that strategic, though I guess you can run shots up to the greens. The day I played, several pins were in unfair places for the direction we were playing. For what they charge, I would not play it again.

Bay Pointe - Short and flat, but not bad. It exceeded my low expectations. Some fun risk/reward dogleg holes. I heard it got hit by a tornado shortly after I played a tournament there.

Travis Pointe - As Ann Arbor CCs go, it's okay, but I can't imagine paying what it costs to be a member there. The layout is decent, though the several 420-450 yard par 4s don't have a ton of variety. The biggest problem was that the greens were way slower than I'd expect at a pretty high $ country club. They seemed healthy, so there was no reason they needed to be as slow as they were, and from what I heard, they'd been like that all year, to the dismay of some of the members.

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Cobra King RF Forged MB - 4-PW, KBS C-Taper 120 Stiff or Scratch SB-1 3-4 & 6-PW Nippon Modus3 120x
Corey Paul 52*/Titleist Vokey Forged 58* K-Grind, Nippon Modus3 125 Blue Wedge shafts,  Titleist Vokey SM6 62* M-Grind DG S200
Byron Morgan long pipe neck B-17, Brushed Mystic finish, 34" or Byron Morgan long pipe neck beached 007x
 

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I got to play a round at Macatawa Golf Course this morning. The course is a ton of fun, but I struggled a LOT on it. Given my propensity for slicing, and given the close proximity of the right side of the fairways to the water features, I must've drowned a dozen balls today.

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Srixon Z565 Driver, 4W, 4H

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Instead of posting a new thread for a question I have, I figured you folks are pretty sharp in here and could answer it for me. I am looking to get a blade style putter and I have always liked the white hot insert. I was considering the putter that is shown in the link I have attached below. An issue I have had, and couldn't seem to find an answer on the Internet, is that it has a

"**crank-neck hosel**". Could someone please explain to me what this type of hosel is and how it affects the putter performance?

 

https://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/golf-clubs/putters/putters-2013-white-hot-pro-1.html

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I think "crank neck" is just a plumber's neck. The Odyssey #1 is your basic anser-style blade with a plumber's neck.

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Ping G410 LST 14.5* (set to 13*) Fujikura Ventus Black 7x
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Cobra King RF Forged MB - 4-PW, KBS C-Taper 120 Stiff or Scratch SB-1 3-4 & 6-PW Nippon Modus3 120x
Corey Paul 52*/Titleist Vokey Forged 58* K-Grind, Nippon Modus3 125 Blue Wedge shafts,  Titleist Vokey SM6 62* M-Grind DG S200
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