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[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413322790' post='10286783']
Thanks for the support guys. I wrote the eulogy and attempted to present it but only made it through the first 2 sentences before I had the pastor step in and finish it for me.
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Sorry for your loss man...

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Here are my numbers and report from my 915 fitting. Nick apologized for not cleaning up the report more so there are some real stinkers on there. I had not played prior to the fitting for over 3 weeks so I noticed my ball position had crept back in my stance which is what caused my unusual angle of attack. I am usually at -1.5 AoA and 9 ish launch. I originally wrote the incorrect setting that I used during the fitting also.

I did try about 7-8 shafts other than what is shown. We decided that I hit the Diamana 70x the most consistent and it was the easiest for me to work both ways. Nick also suggested that I tip it 2 inches to bring the spin down slightly so it will fall into the 22- 2300 range plus he said it will load more consistently for my move and swing speed. I like the look of the D3 better but the D2 was surprisingly giving me better numbers. I'm not arguing with more forgiveness. Any other questions Id be more than happy to answer and discuss things. [attachment=2458609:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323924.126562.jpg][attachment=2458611:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323970.159045.jpg][attachment=2458617:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323999.128595.jpg][attachment=2458623:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413324017.420016.jpg]

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[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413322790' post='10286783']
Thanks for the support guys. I wrote the eulogy and attempted to present it but only made it through the first 2 sentences before I had the pastor step in and finish it for me.
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I lost my grandpa this summer and it was the first close family member I had lost in so long, I had no idea how moving all of the things surrounding the funeral were. Embrace the emotions and you'll reflect back in due time about all the good times, I think we're around the same age so he must have lived a long and full life. If you need to take your mind off things in the next couple weeks just shoot me a message and we'll play a round on me.

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Thank you Swiz, I am currently spending some time with my grandma and my out of town family is in and we are sharing stories and all the jokes he used to tell.

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[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413324089' post='10286971']
Here are my numbers and report from my 915 fitting. Nick apologized for not cleaning up the report more so there are some real stinkers on there. I had not played prior to the fitting for over 3 weeks so I noticed my ball position had crept back in my stance which is what caused my unusual angle of attack. I am usually at -1.5 AoA and 9 ish launch. I originally wrote the incorrect setting that I used during the fitting also.

I did try about 7-8 shafts other than what is shown. We decided that I hit the Diamana 70x the most consistent and it was the easiest for me to work both ways. Nick also suggested that I tip it 2 inches to bring the spin down slightly so it will fall into the 22- 2300 range plus he said it will load more consistently for my move and swing speed. I like the look of the D3 better but the D2 was surprisingly giving me better numbers. I'm not arguing with more forgiveness. Any other questions Id be more than happy to answer and discuss things. [attachment=2458617:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323999.128595.jpg]
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Those are some stupid long drives sir. Can't imagine what a 0 or -1 AoA would do to that carry distance. I struggle with the same issue as I was hovering around -5 or -6 AoA during my fitting.

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413376015' post='10290793']
[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413324089' post='10286971']
Here are my numbers and report from my 915 fitting. Nick apologized for not cleaning up the report more so there are some real stinkers on there. I had not played prior to the fitting for over 3 weeks so I noticed my ball position had crept back in my stance which is what caused my unusual angle of attack. I am usually at -1.5 AoA and 9 ish launch. I originally wrote the incorrect setting that I used during the fitting also.

I did try about 7-8 shafts other than what is shown. We decided that I hit the Diamana 70x the most consistent and it was the easiest for me to work both ways. Nick also suggested that I tip it 2 inches to bring the spin down slightly so it will fall into the 22- 2300 range plus he said it will load more consistently for my move and swing speed. I like the look of the D3 better but the D2 was surprisingly giving me better numbers. I'm not arguing with more forgiveness. Any other questions Id be more than happy to answer and discuss things. [attachment=2458617:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323999.128595.jpg]
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Those are some stupid long drives sir. Can't imagine what a 0 or -1 AoA would do to that carry distance. I struggle with the same issue as I was hovering around -5 or -6 AoA during my fitting.
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I'm double checking a few things in my email report before posting a write up but you are so right. I went from -8 the first time I hit on trackman for the first time a few years ago to +2-+6 yesterday and the numbers change dramatically.

Other numbers of note were 1.51, 1.52, 1.52, 1.51 smash with 4 swings with the 915 hybrid and similar numbers with the 3 wood. I hit a 16.5* 915F as far as driver. The woods and hybrids are so legit, I know I'm beating a dead horse as the 4th or 5th in this thread alone to go hit them but they really were improved.

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[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413326288' post='10287305']
Thank you Swiz, I am currently spending some time with my grandma and my out of town family is in and we are sharing stories and all the jokes he used to tell.

Hey! They are looking for you out there...
Who?
The squirrels, they think you're nuts
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Sorry for your loss buzz

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413376015' post='10290793']
[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413324089' post='10286971']
Here are my numbers and report from my 915 fitting. Nick apologized for not cleaning up the report more so there are some real stinkers on there. I had not played prior to the fitting for over 3 weeks so I noticed my ball position had crept back in my stance which is what caused my unusual angle of attack. I am usually at -1.5 AoA and 9 ish launch. I originally wrote the incorrect setting that I used during the fitting also.

I did try about 7-8 shafts other than what is shown. We decided that I hit the Diamana 70x the most consistent and it was the easiest for me to work both ways. Nick also suggested that I tip it 2 inches to bring the spin down slightly so it will fall into the 22- 2300 range plus he said it will load more consistently for my move and swing speed. I like the look of the D3 better but the D2 was surprisingly giving me better numbers. I'm not arguing with more forgiveness. Any other questions Id be more than happy to answer and discuss things. [attachment=2458617:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323999.128595.jpg]
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Those are some stupid long drives sir. Can't imagine what a 0 or -1 AoA would do to that carry distance. I struggle with the same issue as I was hovering around -5 or -6 AoA during my fitting.
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about 2 monhths ago i had a trackman session when I was swinging my best and zeroing out my AoA and I was getting 11-12 launch and 2100 rpm with 320+ carries. I really dont feel like I need the distance. If my AoA is -4 and i am hitting fairways I dont see any problems unless I am hitting into a stiff wind every hole. That being said... I am going to work on my attack angle this off season and then get another fitting in spring when all the new stuff is out. HINT: Titleist 915 is my front runner so far especially since I have been having bad luck with other oems lately.

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[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1413376550' post='10290835']
[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413376015' post='10290793']
[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413324089' post='10286971']
Here are my numbers and report from my 915 fitting. Nick apologized for not cleaning up the report more so there are some real stinkers on there. I had not played prior to the fitting for over 3 weeks so I noticed my ball position had crept back in my stance which is what caused my unusual angle of attack. I am usually at -1.5 AoA and 9 ish launch. I originally wrote the incorrect setting that I used during the fitting also.

I did try about 7-8 shafts other than what is shown. We decided that I hit the Diamana 70x the most consistent and it was the easiest for me to work both ways. Nick also suggested that I tip it 2 inches to bring the spin down slightly so it will fall into the 22- 2300 range plus he said it will load more consistently for my move and swing speed. I like the look of the D3 better but the D2 was surprisingly giving me better numbers. I'm not arguing with more forgiveness. Any other questions Id be more than happy to answer and discuss things. [attachment=2458617:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1413323999.128595.jpg]
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Those are some stupid long drives sir. Can't imagine what a 0 or -1 AoA would do to that carry distance. I struggle with the same issue as I was hovering around -5 or -6 AoA during my fitting.
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I'm double checking a few things in my email report before posting a write up but you are so right. I went from -8 the first time I hit on trackman for the first time a few years ago to +2-+6 yesterday and the numbers change dramatically.

Other numbers of note were 1.51, 1.52, 1.52, 1.51 smash with 4 swings with the 915 hybrid and similar numbers with the 3 wood. I hit a 16.5* 915F as far as driver. The woods and hybrids are so legit, I know I'm beating a dead horse as the 4th or 5th in this thread alone to go hit them but they really were improved.
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What were the numbers?

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[quote name='ThunderBuzzworth' timestamp='1413383482' post='10291693']

about 2 monhths ago i had a trackman session when I was swinging my best and zeroing out my AoA and I was getting 11-12 launch and 2100 rpm with 320+ carries. I really dont feel like I need the distance. If my AoA is -4 and i am hitting fairways I dont see any problems unless I am hitting into a stiff wind every hole. That being said... I am going to work on my attack angle this off season and then get another fitting in spring when all the new stuff is out. HINT: Titleist 915 is my front runner so far especially since I have been having bad luck with other oems lately.
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I am with you guys on AoA (but I am a short hitter). I have found that the more I try to increase the AoA on my driver to 0 or positive, the more messed up my game gets. I usually am (85% of the time) a really good iron player and can hits lots of good shots. It has become a strength of my game. I am just not good enough to have a different setup and swing with my driver. I have been working the last few weeks on getting a more stack and tilt move back into my swing because it helps me be more engaged with my legs and body compared to just arms. I tend to default to being an arm swinger and when I lose the leg action, my ball striking goes south fast. But with that stack and tilt move, I really hit down on the ball even more. But I am hitting fairways and hitting it long enough, so no complaints!

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I took a lesson Wednesday night, and man, I wish I'd done so before Valhalla. This summer, I've gotten into a habit of falling a little forward with my body on the downswing (kind of the stack and tilt move that KB is talking about, but for me, that's bad), which has caused my swing path to move to an outside in direction through the ball (not dramatically, but anywhere from 2-4 degrees), which is a power sucking move that generates extra spin and a more negative AoA than I want. I've been able to compensate for the most part to drive it pretty accurately, but sometimes (including a couple holes at Valhalla), it gets more magnified and goes way right and also doesn't go anywhere. I'd been working on correcting that move, by concentrating on moving my right shoulder toward the ball (on plane, hopefully), so my right shoulder is lower than my left at impact, which is a characteristic you'll see of basically all good ball strikers. I had been really inconsistent at doing that correctly, with a lot of shots that were a little fat or thin. It turns out that all I really need to do to get everything working right is to alter my backswing path a little bit to make it feel like I'm taking it back inside, which puts me in a position at the top to just return it on plane to the ball on an in to out path. The backswing path seems inside, but really my swing plane is angled a few degrees right of the target line, so the club is on plane the whole way. The result, on the lesson tee, at least, was that beautiful 3 yard high draw that looks so beautiful (and it was working with the driver, as well). The best part is, it's a pretty easy tendency to break, so I don't expect a lot of issue taking it from the range to the course.
We also worked on my putting a little bit, and I finally got some confirmation about what I've thought was my biggest problem. The arms should basically go straight back and through on a flat plane, but mine are getting inside the plane both back and through, as a result of a stroke that is using too much arm action (and probably not enough core stability due to me being a fat a**, which I'm also working on correcting), which is also a stroke that requires a lot of timing and luck to get the ball started on line. This is a more long-term re-training, I think, but feeling like the lat muscles in the back are driving the stroke seems to be keeping my arms from getting off plane. I have a lot of practice in the mirror ahead to try to get that ingrained.

If only I was going to be able to keep working on this on course for much longer. :censored2:

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[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413550439' post='10304337']
I took a lesson Wednesday night, and man, I wish I'd done so before Valhalla. This summer, I've gotten into a habit of falling a little forward with my body on the downswing (kind of the stack and tilt move that KB is talking about, but for me, that's bad), which has caused my swing path to move to an outside in direction through the ball (not dramatically, but anywhere from 2-4 degrees), which is a power sucking move that generates extra spin and a more negative AoA than I want. I've been able to compensate for the most part to drive it pretty accurately, but sometimes (including a couple holes at Valhalla), it gets more magnified and goes way right and also doesn't go anywhere. I'd been working on correcting that move, by concentrating on moving my right shoulder toward the ball (on plane, hopefully), so my right shoulder is lower than my left at impact, which is a characteristic you'll see of basically all good ball strikers. I had been really inconsistent at doing that correctly, with a lot of shots that were a little fat or thin. It turns out that all I really need to do to get everything working right is to alter my backswing path a little bit to make it feel like I'm taking it back inside, which puts me in a position at the top to just return it on plane to the ball on an in to out path. The backswing path seems inside, but really my swing plane is angled a few degrees right of the target line, so the club is on plane the whole way. The result, on the lesson tee, at least, was that beautiful 3 yard high draw that looks so beautiful (and it was working with the driver, as well). The best part is, it's a pretty easy tendency to break, so I don't expect a lot of issue taking it from the range to the course.
We also worked on my putting a little bit, and I finally got some confirmation about what I've thought was my biggest problem. The arms should basically go straight back and through on a flat plane, but mine are getting inside the plane both back and through, as a result of a stroke that is using too much arm action (and probably not enough core stability due to me being a fat a**, which I'm also working on correcting), which is also a stroke that requires a lot of timing and luck to get the ball started on line. This is a more long-term re-training, I think, but feeling like the lat muscles in the back are driving the stroke seems to be keeping my arms from getting off plane. I have a lot of practice in the mirror ahead to try to get that ingrained.

If only I was going to be able to keep working on this on course for much longer. :censored:
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Sounds like the same problem that crept into my driver swing this year. When you are setting up for the draw and it fades/slices and takes about 20 yards of distance off and lands you in the trees....or worse. I wish I had the discipline to take a lesson or two. I just wouldn't know where to start.

Are you going back to Cali again this winter or was that a temporary thing? What a tease playing golf year round for a year then back to this winter nonsense.

Last night I spent a lot of time looking at indoor putting greens to scratch that winter golf itch. I have never had the space to purchase one but now that we have moved into a house I think the time is right. I also work from home so it would be a great distraction on those long conference calls. Anybody have any experience with the BirdieBall or TourLinks? Those are the two most reasonably priced from what I've seen so far.

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413551316' post='10304403']
Sounds like the same problem that crept into my driver swing this year. When you are setting up for the draw and it fades/slices and takes about 20 yards of distance off and lands you in the trees....or worse. I wish I had the discipline to take a lesson or two. I just wouldn't know where to start.

Are you going back to Cali again this winter or was that a temporary thing? What a tease playing golf year round for a year then back to this winter nonsense.

Last night I spent a lot of time looking at indoor putting greens to scratch that winter golf itch. I have never had the space to purchase one but now that we have moved into a house I think the time is right. I also work from home so it would be a great distraction on those long conference calls. Anybody have any experience with the BirdieBall or TourLinks? Those are the two most reasonably priced from what I've seen so far.
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I had actually gotten myself to start aiming down the left side of the fairway (scary for someone who had played a draw/fought a hook for over a decade), and drove it probably as accurately as I ever have for the span of about a month, but it was a band-aid that tended to fail when pressure crept in (GAM Four-Ball, a little bit, and Valhalla were examples). I knew it wasn't how I wanted to play it long-term, and I thought it might be something that would take a while to get corrected, and it's hard to do that in the middle of the season when you're trying to get ready for tournaments and things like that.

Unfortunately, the Cali thing was a one-time deal. Honestly, I would probably move back there permanently if it wasn't for some job and family realities. I really don't know how I'm going to deal with winter. I'm guessing I'm going to be unpleasant to be around.

I have the 12' birdieball mat -- it's basically a big slab of foam, but it does roll pretty nicely compared to a lot of the practice mats out there.

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Cobra King RF Forged MB - 4-PW, KBS C-Taper 120 Stiff
Corey Paul 52*, Nippon Modus 125/Titleist Vokey SM8 58* K-Grind & 62* M-Grind DG S200
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The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.

Ping G430 LST 9* (set to 7.5*), 45", Fujikura Ventus TR Black 6x
Ping G430 LST 14.5* (set to 13*) Fujikura Ventus Black 7x
TaylorMade M2 Tour 18*, Fujikura Rombax P95x or Tour Edge CBX Iron-Wood 17* (Black Pearl) Fujikura Ventus HB Blue 9x or Tour Issue or Titleist TSi2 21* (set to 20*) Fujikura Ventus Black 8x
Cobra King RF Forged MB - 4-PW, KBS C-Taper 120 Stiff
Corey Paul 52*, Nippon Modus 125/Titleist Vokey SM8 58* K-Grind & 62* M-Grind DG S200
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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413551316' post='10304403']
[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413550439' post='10304337']
I took a lesson Wednesday night, and man, I wish I'd done so before Valhalla. This summer, I've gotten into a habit of falling a little forward with my body on the downswing (kind of the stack and tilt move that KB is talking about, but for me, that's bad), which has caused my swing path to move to an outside in direction through the ball (not dramatically, but anywhere from 2-4 degrees), which is a power sucking move that generates extra spin and a more negative AoA than I want. I've been able to compensate for the most part to drive it pretty accurately, but sometimes (including a couple holes at Valhalla), it gets more magnified and goes way right and also doesn't go anywhere. I'd been working on correcting that move, by concentrating on moving my right shoulder toward the ball (on plane, hopefully), so my right shoulder is lower than my left at impact, which is a characteristic you'll see of basically all good ball strikers. I had been really inconsistent at doing that correctly, with a lot of shots that were a little fat or thin. It turns out that all I really need to do to get everything working right is to alter my backswing path a little bit to make it feel like I'm taking it back inside, which puts me in a position at the top to just return it on plane to the ball on an in to out path. The backswing path seems inside, but really my swing plane is angled a few degrees right of the target line, so the club is on plane the whole way. The result, on the lesson tee, at least, was that beautiful 3 yard high draw that looks so beautiful (and it was working with the driver, as well). The best part is, it's a pretty easy tendency to break, so I don't expect a lot of issue taking it from the range to the course.
We also worked on my putting a little bit, and I finally got some confirmation about what I've thought was my biggest problem. The arms should basically go straight back and through on a flat plane, but mine are getting inside the plane both back and through, as a result of a stroke that is using too much arm action (and probably not enough core stability due to me being a fat a**, which I'm also working on correcting), which is also a stroke that requires a lot of timing and luck to get the ball started on line. This is a more long-term re-training, I think, but feeling like the lat muscles in the back are driving the stroke seems to be keeping my arms from getting off plane. I have a lot of practice in the mirror ahead to try to get that ingrained.

If only I was going to be able to keep working on this on course for much longer. :censored:
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Sounds like the same problem that crept into my driver swing this year. When you are setting up for the draw and it fades/slices and takes about 20 yards of distance off and lands you in the trees....or worse. I wish I had the discipline to take a lesson or two. I just wouldn't know where to start.

Are you going back to Cali again this winter or was that a temporary thing? What a tease playing golf year round for a year then back to this winter nonsense.

Last night I spent a lot of time looking at indoor putting greens to scratch that winter golf itch. I have never had the space to purchase one but now that we have moved into a house I think the time is right. I also work from home so it would be a great distraction on those long conference calls. Anybody have any experience with the BirdieBall or TourLinks? Those are the two most reasonably priced from what I've seen so far.
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The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
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Mine would be going in my office since the only thing we store in the basement is old furniture and spiders. Does yours lay flat? That would be my biggest concern about getting one that is not on the platform.

Doz, those Pro Putt Systems are serious. I was checking those out this morning. They are all a little bit too big for what I was thinking. If we finished our basement eventually those would be pretty sick though.

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[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413555474' post='10304657']
[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
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Mine would be going in my office since the only thing we store in the basement is old furniture and spiders. Does yours lay flat? That would be my biggest concern about getting one that is not on the platform.

Doz, those Pro Putt Systems are serious. I was checking those out this morning. They are all a little bit too big for what I was thinking. If we finished our basement eventually those would be pretty sick though.
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I looked into this a few years ago. Was about to pull the trigger on one from Buckeye Greens (god that name sucks). It used the Tour Links custom platform (12X13) but had an upgraded carpet and would have accepted short chip shots. My issue was he wanted like 500 shipping. In the end I just use a very thin indoor/outdoor carpet on cement in the basement. It actually rolls very true and at about 12 stimp. I just wish I had a real hole to putt to.

Anyone find a good solution for a hole in the non-platform systems? Pretty sure the wife does not want me drilling into the basement.

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
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Your basement has beer and a putting green. Obviously you have your priorities straight.

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413557658' post='10304805']
[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413555474' post='10304657']
[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
[/quote]

Mine would be going in my office since the only thing we store in the basement is old furniture and spiders. Does yours lay flat? That would be my biggest concern about getting one that is not on the platform.

Doz, those Pro Putt Systems are serious. I was checking those out this morning. They are all a little bit too big for what I was thinking. If we finished our basement eventually those would be pretty sick though.
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It lays mostly flat if you leave it rolled out. The combination of basement floor and a little bit of unevenness in the mat provides some breaking putts. I've learned the reads from different spots, lol. It's pretty flat, though, and if you set some books or boxes on it to flatten out the edges, it should stay pretty flat.

to O.D.'s question, the BB is about a half inch thick, and has plastic cup inserts, along with thin plastic "flags", which make it so putts that hit the hole will stay in, though it's a little unforgiving for putts that might lip in on a real hole. If you leave the flags out, a lot of putts will hit the hard plastic of the cup or the hard floor and pop out.

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[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413555474' post='10304657']
[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
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Your basement has beer and a putting green. Obviously you have your priorities straight.
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I am taking back my basement from being a place with lots of toys with my TV to being a man cave. I am mounting Plasma on the wall and then I am putting in a practice green. My plan is to build a platform and then put down some nice turf and cups. I need to decide if I am going to use it for chipping - if so, I will need to use some pad under turf and get the right turf.

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I have a long carpeted hallway I chip down during the winter, probably helps as much as putting because it keeps my hands/wrists/feel intact over the winter and then I can just move that impact feeling to a full swing when it warms up. If you have the room id do it for sure!

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I just read that Greywalls is closed for the season, which is a harsh reminder that the season is just too short. Even here in Chicago the nice weekends are winding down.

I think its time to start looking into vacations.

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[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1413503378' post='10302089']I am just not good enough to have a different setup and swing with my driver. I have been working the last few weeks on getting a more stack and tilt move back into my swing because it helps me be more engaged with my legs and body compared to just arms. I tend to default to being an arm swinger and when I lose the leg action, my ball striking goes south fast. But with that stack and tilt move, I really hit down on the ball even more. But I am hitting fairways and hitting it long enough, so no complaints!
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Ok, philosophy time. I have heard a lot over the years about it being hard to be good at both driving the ball and being a good iron player, because they're two different swings. I don't think that's true. The swing is the swing, and the only difference is the low point of your swing. Sure, the driver is a little different, because the ball isn't on the ground, but it's really all about where the ball is in relation to the low point of the swing, which is why you play the driver toward your front foot, and the irons further back.

This is based mainly on my own personal experience, and my own swing flaws, but a steeper AoA may allow you to hit shots that feel solid, but it's also going to create launch characteristics that will rob you of distance. When you hit the ball on a steeper downward angle, you're going to get more spin, and it's going to go shorter than it could under normal conditions, and balloon in the wind. I personally cut about 500 RPM off my irons by reducing my AoA by a couple of degrees (to around -3-4 degrees on irons, and +1-2 with the driver), and that equals 5-10 extra yards with the irons (and more margin for error, IMO), and 10-15 with the driver. All of it, very controllable, and without a lot of adjustments that require a lot of work. And the two swings are basically the same, aside from ball position.

I guess the point of this rambling nonsense is that a lot of people have more potential to hit it far than they think. I'm a fat piece of s*** with a decent swing, and I can get it out there a good ways, and while there's physical limitations that prevent us from being animals like ThunderB, we don't have to accept that we're as long as we're going to get, and there are fairly simple things we can adjust to get the most out of our swings. From what I've seen, if you can swing a few degrees in to out, with a face slightly closed to that path, with positive AoA, with the driver, you'll maximize your driving distance. Same path and face with the irons with a -3 to -4.5 AoA, and you'll do well.

Sorry for the rambling post--just a few ideas I have about the swing.

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So played yesterday and shot mid 70s with only using 4-Lob wedge and putter, something I have failed to do almost all year. Waiting on the new woods from Titleist. I wanted to say I had my maiden voyage with the TVD M-grind and absolutely love them. I have played the S grind for quite a few years and these new grinds really allow me to hit down and be aggressive without digging them. They really shine on punch, pitch, and chip shots. I never liked the M-grind on the SM5 wedges, but these TVDs feel and perform much different. Highly recommend!

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[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1413503378' post='10302089']I am just not good enough to have a different setup and swing with my driver. I have been working the last few weeks on getting a more stack and tilt move back into my swing because it helps me be more engaged with my legs and body compared to just arms. I tend to default to being an arm swinger and when I lose the leg action, my ball striking goes south fast. But with that stack and tilt move, I really hit down on the ball even more. But I am hitting fairways and hitting it long enough, so no complaints!
[/quote]

Ok, philosophy time. I have heard a lot over the years about it being hard to be good at both driving the ball and being a good iron player, because they're two different swings. I don't think that's true. The swing is the swing, and the only difference is the low point of your swing. Sure, the driver is a little different, because the ball isn't on the ground, but it's really all about where the ball is in relation to the low point of the swing, which is why you play the driver toward your front foot, and the irons further back.

This is based mainly on my own personal experience, and my own swing flaws, but a steeper AoA may allow you to hit shots that feel solid, but it's also going to create launch characteristics that will rob you of distance. When you hit the ball on a steeper downward angle, you're going to get more spin, and it's going to go shorter than it could under normal conditions, and balloon in the wind. I personally cut about 500 RPM off my irons by reducing my AoA by a couple of degrees (to around -3-4 degrees on irons, and +1-2 with the driver), and that equals 5-10 extra yards with the irons (and more margin for error, IMO), and 10-15 with the driver. All of it, very controllable, and without a lot of adjustments that require a lot of work. And the two swings are basically the same, aside from ball position.

I guess the point of this rambling nonsense is that a lot of people have more potential to hit it far than they think. I'm a fat piece of s*** with a decent swing, and I can get it out there a good ways, and while there's physical limitations that prevent us from being animals like ThunderB, we don't have to accept that we're as long as we're going to get, and there are fairly simple things we can adjust to get the most out of our swings. From what I've seen, if you can swing a few degrees in to out, with a face slightly closed to that path, with positive AoA, with the driver, you'll maximize your driving distance. Same path and face with the irons with a -3 to -4.5 AoA, and you'll do well.

Sorry for the rambling post--just a few ideas I have about the swing.
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[color=#282828]"From what I've seen, if you can swing a few degrees in to out, with a face slightly closed to that path, [b]with positive AoA, with the drive[/b]r, you'll maximize your driving distance. Same path and face with the irons[b] with a -3 to -4.5 AoA[/b], and you'll do well."[/color]

[color=#282828]so didn't you just describe 2 different swings?[/color]

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[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413557658' post='10304805']
[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413555474' post='10304657']
[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1413553857' post='10304563']
The BB green is definitely the most appealing price wise. I can get a 9' x 3' green for $110, which is anywhere from a third to a quarter of the cost of others. However, from reviews I read on here it just just a piece of foam with no base to it. Others, like TourLinks, have a sturdy base to it, but the size that I would want is $450. I think for my purposes the BB would work fine. The basic gist of the reviews was it looks kind of shabby, but performs well as long as you have it on a firm surface.
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If you're going to have it somewhere in your house where you are concerned with how it looks, the BB probably isn't for you. Mine is just in the basement, which in my house is a 1970s nightmare, which we basically just use for laundry, storage, my beer fridge and putting mat. I know when I got my BB, they had a deal going where you could get the next size up for the price of the next smallest one. I want to say I paid less than $100 for it, but I could be wrong.
[/quote]

Mine would be going in my office since the only thing we store in the basement is old furniture and spiders. Does yours lay flat? That would be my biggest concern about getting one that is not on the platform.

Doz, those Pro Putt Systems are serious. I was checking those out this morning. They are all a little bit too big for what I was thinking. If we finished our basement eventually those would be pretty sick though.
[/quote]

I looked into this a few years ago. Was about to pull the trigger on one from Buckeye Greens (god that name sucks). It used the Tour Links custom platform (12X13) but had an upgraded carpet and would have accepted short chip shots. My issue was he wanted like 500 shipping. In the end I just use a very thin indoor/outdoor carpet on cement in the basement. It actually rolls very true and at about 12 stimp. I just wish I had a real hole to putt to.

Anyone find a good solution for a hole in the non-platform systems? Pretty sure the wife does not want me drilling into the basement.
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saw this in "Sky mall" on the plane to Fla today....looked interesting....i would go with this or the putting puck
http://www.skymall.com/putt-a-round-putting-aid/26478GRP.html

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[quote name='3 Jack Par' timestamp='1413608847' post='10308649']
[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1413503378' post='10302089']I am just not good enough to have a different setup and swing with my driver. I have been working the last few weeks on getting a more stack and tilt move back into my swing because it helps me be more engaged with my legs and body compared to just arms. I tend to default to being an arm swinger and when I lose the leg action, my ball striking goes south fast. But with that stack and tilt move, I really hit down on the ball even more. But I am hitting fairways and hitting it long enough, so no complaints!
[/quote]

Ok, philosophy time. I have heard a lot over the years about it being hard to be good at both driving the ball and being a good iron player, because they're two different swings. I don't think that's true. The swing is the swing, and the only difference is the low point of your swing. Sure, the driver is a little different, because the ball isn't on the ground, but it's really all about where the ball is in relation to the low point of the swing, which is why you play the driver toward your front foot, and the irons further back.

This is based mainly on my own personal experience, and my own swing flaws, but a steeper AoA may allow you to hit shots that feel solid, but it's also going to create launch characteristics that will rob you of distance. When you hit the ball on a steeper downward angle, you're going to get more spin, and it's going to go shorter than it could under normal conditions, and balloon in the wind. I personally cut about 500 RPM off my irons by reducing my AoA by a couple of degrees (to around -3-4 degrees on irons, and +1-2 with the driver), and that equals 5-10 extra yards with the irons (and more margin for error, IMO), and 10-15 with the driver. All of it, very controllable, and without a lot of adjustments that require a lot of work. And the two swings are basically the same, aside from ball position.

I guess the point of this rambling nonsense is that a lot of people have more potential to hit it far than they think. I'm a fat piece of s*** with a decent swing, and I can get it out there a good ways, and while there's physical limitations that prevent us from being animals like ThunderB, we don't have to accept that we're as long as we're going to get, and there are fairly simple things we can adjust to get the most out of our swings. From what I've seen, if you can swing a few degrees in to out, with a face slightly closed to that path, with positive AoA, with the driver, you'll maximize your driving distance. Same path and face with the irons with a -3 to -4.5 AoA, and you'll do well.

Sorry for the rambling post--just a few ideas I have about the swing.
[/quote]

[color=#282828]"From what I've seen, if you can swing a few degrees in to out, with a face slightly closed to that path, [b]with positive AoA, with the drive[/b]r, you'll maximize your driving distance. Same path and face with the irons[b] with a -3 to -4.5 AoA[/b], and you'll do well."[/color]

[color=#282828]so didn't you just describe 2 different swings?[/color]
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      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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