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Who else is still a G-Man?

 

I have a set of G15 irons at my sones place but they only get used 5-6 times a year. For the last 6yrs I have used I15's and I25's. I'm hoping the G's I bought in BST show up tomorrow and I have the I25 heads list in the BST. No real reason to replace the I25's other than I wanted to one of the G-Men in this thread.

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so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

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so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

 

Good question. The short answer is, no, at least in my opinion. As you might know, the G10, G15 and G20 were rather big, chunky irons. Then the G25 started a slimmed down trend with the G irons. Then the G30 were similar to the G25’s, but a bit more jacked up lofts. I never liked the original AWT shafts. I have always gotten along well with the CFS stiff shafts. I also like the AWT 2.0 stiff shafts.

 

In recent years, I played the G30’s for about half a season a couple of years ago, and I played the G’s for about half of this past season. Both excellent irons, and I can’t really say that the G’s were significantly better, if at all, compared to the G30’s. As of today, the G series irons that I have on hand are the G’s (with AWT 2.0 stiff shafts), and a set of G25’s that I picked up cheap this past summer with CFS stiff shafts.

 

Bottom line, I took the G25’s out for a couple of rounds the past couple of weekends, and they are fantastic. There is a reason that the G25’s have a bit of a cult following. I suppose it is all relative, but the G25’s hide their GI aspects well, sit great behind the ball, and really play beautifully. You can see in my sig that my #1 set right now is Forged Tec with C-Taper Lite shafts. And sure, the Forged Tec are a bit more svelte than the G25’s, and feel a bit better, and have fancy shafts. But boy, do the G25’s make me want to just keep them in the bag.

 

Anyway, if you want big and chunky, the G20’s are still a great option. If you want relatively slimmer, the G25’s and G30’s are great also. YMMV, and good luck.

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Callaway ‘23 Great Big Bertha 3 Wood, GD Tour AD VR-7 S

Callaway Paradym 18* Super Hybrid, Aerotech Steelfiber fc75 Hy f4

Callaway Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrids, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 6.0

Mizuno JPX 923 HM Irons 6-GW, MMT 105 S

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so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

 

Good question. The short answer is, no, at least in my opinion. As you might know, the G10, G15 and G20 were rather big, chunky irons. Then the G25 started a slimmed down trend with the G irons. Then the G30 were similar to the G25’s, but a bit more jacked up lofts. I never liked the original AWT shafts. I have always gotten along well with the CFS stiff shafts. I also like the AWT 2.0 stiff shafts.

 

In recent years, I played the G30’s for about half a season a couple of years ago, and I played the G’s for about half of this past season. Both excellent irons, and I can’t really say that the G’s were significantly better, if at all, compared to the G30’s. As of today, the G series irons that I have on hand are the G’s (with AWT 2.0 stiff shafts), and a set of G25’s that I picked up cheap this past summer with CFS stiff shafts.

 

Bottom line, I took the G25’s out for a couple of rounds the past couple of weekends, and they are fantastic. There is a reason that the G25’s have a bit of a cult following. I suppose it is all relative, but the G25’s hide their GI aspects well, sit great behind the ball, and really play beautifully. You can see in my sig that my #1 set right now is Forged Tec with C-Taper Lite shafts. And sure, the Forged Tec are a bit more svelte than the G25’s, and feel a bit better, and have fancy shafts. But boy, do the G25’s make me want to just keep them in the bag.

 

Anyway, if you want big and chunky, the G20’s are still a great option. If you want relatively slimmer, the G25’s and G30’s are great also. YMMV, and good luck.

 

Sorry man, don't mean to be argumentative but pretty much all the G's from G10 on forward have the same size heads. There are minor differences in sole width but that's about it. in terms of playability, they have been some evolution of the species but nothing earth shattering. I'd just as happily put a set of G10's in the bag as a set of G's. There have been some shaft evolution, but most of the Ping shafts are pretty playable so not sure that matters that much either. Pretty much all the G's are fantastic.

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Sorry man, don't mean to be argumentative but pretty much all the G's from G10 on forward have the same size heads. There are minor differences in sole width but that's about it.

 

Like I said, YMMV, but I’d stick with my impression that the G25’s are a good bit slimmer than the G20’s. Below were some comparison pics from WRX. Still clearly the same family, but differences seem pretty noticeable to me. But no big deal if we see things differently.

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1525841

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1525843

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Callaway ‘23 Great Big Bertha 3 Wood, GD Tour AD VR-7 S

Callaway Paradym 18* Super Hybrid, Aerotech Steelfiber fc75 Hy f4

Callaway Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrids, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 6.0

Mizuno JPX 923 HM Irons 6-GW, MMT 105 S

Taylormade Milled Grind 4 Wedges 54*/11 and 58*/11, MMT 105 TX (ss1x)

Odyssey O-Works #7CH Putter

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Sorry man, don't mean to be argumentative but pretty much all the G's from G10 on forward have the same size heads. There are minor differences in sole width but that's about it.

 

Like I said, YMMV, but I'd stick with my impression that the G25's are a good bit slimmer than the G20's. Below were some comparison pics from WRX. Still clearly the same family, but differences seem pretty noticeable to me. But no big deal if we see things differently.

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...tach_id=1525841

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...tach_id=1525843

 

Okay, the G25 has a narrower sole. Overall size of the heads are same though.

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Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95

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Still going strong with my G20s.

 

G-MAN 4 LIFE.

 

Wellllllll, "life" is a pretty long time but,,,,,,,,, yeah, :yahoo: G20s for 6 seasons and counting (never kept a set of irons for more than 2 seasons previously).

 

I've never had a problem launching the ball up in the air so I got DG S300s in mine to mitigate the launch factor a little bit. Also feel the heavier shaft helps my swing "stability" and is worth the couple of MPH I lose swinging them. :good:

 

 

so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

 

Aren't you the gentleman who doesn't like the look of offset ? All the G series are offset a fair bit.

 

If you can get used to the look of offset irons you can do a whole lot worse than Ping Gs,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Ping G425 14.5 Fairway Tour AD TP 6X

Ping G425 MAX 20.5 7 wood Diamana Blue 70 S

Titleist 716 AP-1  5-PW, DGS300

Ping Glide Forged, 48, DGS300

Taylormade MG3 52*, 56*, TW 60* DGS200

LAB Mezz Max 34*, RED, BGT Stability

Titleist Pro V1X

 

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yes, but I played ping eye 2 for almost 15 years, so I can get used to a little offset. I think Ping has done a great job with the offset in the G series, pix of irons I've seen at address are +++, compared to the old eye 2's, they don't look clunky with lots of offset. Thanks for the comments on the soles and the loft changes, I will look into these items. I bought a G25 and G15 7 iron head recently to compare, and await delivery, thanks.

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Going to me a full times Gman in 2018. Setup will be

 

G SFT 12°

Adams TL2 5w & 7w

KE4 25° hybrid

G 5-P,U

Tricept 54° & 58° wedges

Mizuno Bettinardi C06

Callaway Rogue ST Max 10.5°/Xcaliber SL 45 a flex,Callaway Rogue ST Max Heavenwood/Xcaliber FW a flex, Maltby KE4 ST-H 3h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 ST-H 4h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 Tour TC 5h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 Tour+ 6-G/Xcaliber Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby Max Milled 54° & 58°/Xcaliber Wedge 85 r flex, Mizuno Bettinardi C06

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Still going strong with my G20s.

 

G-MAN 4 LIFE.

 

Wellllllll, "life" is a pretty long time but,,,,,,,,, yeah, :yahoo: G20s for 6 seasons and counting (never kept a set of irons for more than 2 seasons previously).

 

I've never had a problem launching the ball up in the air so I got DG S300s in mine to mitigate the launch factor a little bit. Also feel the heavier shaft helps my swing "stability" and is worth the couple of MPH I lose swinging them. :good:

 

 

so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

 

Aren't you the gentleman who doesn't like the look of offset ? All the G series are offset a fair bit.

 

If you can get used to the look of offset irons you can do a whole lot worse than Ping Gs,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Yes, but looking at the G400 it looks like the offset has been reduced. (??)

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Yes, but looking at the G400 it looks like the offset has been reduced. (??)

 

Nope.

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Ping G425 5 wood & hybrid
Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95

Ping G425 irons w/Accra ICWT 2.0 95
Ping Glide wedges w/Recoil 110
Ping Redwood Anser - the "real deal!"

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Still going strong with my G20s.

 

G-MAN 4 LIFE.

 

Wellllllll, "life" is a pretty long time but,,,,,,,,, yeah, :yahoo: G20s for 6 seasons and counting (never kept a set of irons for more than 2 seasons previously).

 

I've never had a problem launching the ball up in the air so I got DG S300s in mine to mitigate the launch factor a little bit. Also feel the heavier shaft helps my swing "stability" and is worth the couple of MPH I lose swinging them. :good:

 

 

so question, this thread started in 2014(?), Now with all the new G's (400, etc) Irons released in 2016-2017. Are the new G's superior to older G- the 2 through 30 lines ??

 

I'm a 60 yr old 13Handicap, ready to make a move to GI irons, after 2 years of forged irons, ready to admit I need help in the higher flight, distance, mis hit categories.

 

Aren't you the gentleman who doesn't like the look of offset ? All the G series are offset a fair bit.

 

If you can get used to the look of offset irons you can do a whole lot worse than Ping Gs,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Yes, but looking at the G400 it looks like the offset has been reduced. (??)

 

I would say that is correct. From the G25, the iteration after mine, to the G400 it certainly looks like the club has gotten a narrower sole and, I believe, a bit less offset.

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Ping G425 MAX 20.5 7 wood Diamana Blue 70 S

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Ping Glide Forged, 48, DGS300

Taylormade MG3 52*, 56*, TW 60* DGS200

LAB Mezz Max 34*, RED, BGT Stability

Titleist Pro V1X

 

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Offset of Ping G irons from 4-iron down to U-wedge: .29 .26 .23 .20 .18 .16 .14 .12

 

Offset of Ping G400 irons from 4-iron down to U-wedge: .29 .26 .23 .20 .18 .16 .13 .11

 

That's one one-hundredth of an inch less offset is the W and U wedges, same offset otherwise.

 

Postscript

 

Ping G25 irons from 4-iron down to U-wedge: .29 .26 .23 .21 .18 .16 .14 .13

 

That's two one-hundredths more than the G400 in the U-wedge, one one-hundredth in the W-wedge and 7-iron.

 

You know these numbers are right on the Ping web site if you ever want to find out the amount of offset, which basically doesn't change from model to model.

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yes, just checked the offset for a 6 iron: it's 0.23" for all G models, the very latest G400 to G25. It's 0.26" for the G15 and G20. It does look different on the latest models, less prominent.

 

It's the lofts that have REALLY changed (for 6 iron) 29' for g15 to g25, 27' for the g30 and g, then 26.5' for the g400.

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yes, just checked the offset for a 6 iron: it's 0.23" for all G models, the very latest G400 to G25. It's 0.26" for the G15. It does look different on the latest models, less prominent.

 

There's a whole thread going on about some doofus declaring that offset is dead and none of today's clubs have anything like the amount of offset they did a few years ago.

 

That guy just can't believe, no matter how many numbers are shown to him, that the manufacturers know how to build plenty of offset into irons but not look obviously offset. Ping has gotten as good at it as anyone over the past few years but the whole industry has moved that way.

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Hey guys. Need some help. I try and try to get Ping irons into my bag.

 

But Lately upon testing irons like the G, G400, GMax I do nothing but push the ball. I play std lie irons and never have issues hitting a baby draw. When I have the fitting Center build these ping irons in black dot the toe looks like it’s digging into the ground compared to other irons. For example I tried Steelhead irons in std lie and those seem like they are 2-3* more upright than g400 in black dot yet specs say the Pings are only 1/2 degree flatter which should be minimal.

 

Anyone else notice this ?

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Ping G430 SFT 5w 19* Alta Black Reg

Ping G430 SFT 7w 23* Alta Black Reg

Tour Edge Xrail 5h 26* Graphite Design G-Series Reg

Ping G425 6-UW Alta Slate Reg

Ping Glide 4.0 56* WS Nippon Z-115

Cleveland CBX Full Face 2 60* DG Spinner

Cleveland Smart Sole C 4.0 

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Hey guys. Need some help. I try and try to get Ping irons into my bag.

 

But Lately upon testing irons like the G, G400, GMax I do nothing but push the ball. I play std lie irons and never have issues hitting a baby draw. When I have the fitting Center build these ping irons in black dot the toe looks like it's digging into the ground compared to other irons. For example I tried Steelhead irons in std lie and those seem like they are 2-3* more upright than g400 in black dot yet specs say the Pings are only 1/2 degree flatter which should be minimal.

 

Anyone else notice this ?

 

Have you performed some dynamic lie angle testing? There are a few different ways to do this but marking the ball with a vertical stripe and then hitting the ball and looking for the angle of the transfer mark on the club face seems to be the most popular. You want the transfer mark at 90 degrees to the grooves or near.

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Ping G425 5 wood & hybrid
Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95

Ping G425 irons w/Accra ICWT 2.0 95
Ping Glide wedges w/Recoil 110
Ping Redwood Anser - the "real deal!"

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Been wanting to get back into the G-man club for a while now and finally pulled the trigger and bought a NOS set of G30's. I like the G30's because they have a nice forgiving sole for the way I hit the ball and the face is thicker than the newer clubs and therefor the sound is more muted. It will be interesting to judge distance against the spring face Hot Metal irons I've been playing. I'm not a huge fan of all the Ping offset but it doesn't put me off too much. Can't wait to get them out on the course.:D

Ping G400 Max driver w/Aldila Rogue 125 Silver
Ping G425 5 wood & hybrid
Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95

Ping G425 irons w/Accra ICWT 2.0 95
Ping Glide wedges w/Recoil 110
Ping Redwood Anser - the "real deal!"

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Might you consider a name change to

 

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TaylorMade Stealth+ 15* - Fujikura Ventus Red 9TX

NIKE Vapor Fly Pro 3-4i - Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 95X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 5 - KBS Tour 130X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tour 6-PW - DG TI X100

Mizuno T22 Raw 50* S, 55* D | TaylorMade Hi Toe 60* - DG TI S400

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Been wanting to get back into the G-man club for a while now and finally pulled the trigger and bought a NOS set of G30's. I like the G30's because they have a nice forgiving sole for the way I hit the ball and the face is thicker than the newer clubs and therefor the sound is more muted. It will be interesting to judge distance against the spring face Hot Metal irons I've been playing. I'm not a huge fan of all the Ping offset but it doesn't put me off too much. Can't wait to get them out on the course. :D

 

Welcome back Nessism, always great to see an OG come back home.

 

I want to hear your experiences once you get some good time in with the G30s. I had major problems with the thin faced irons myself, like random "fairway flyers" and the awful feel and feedback. That is why I have stuck with my G20s, they ain't pretty but they feel solid and there are no surprises.

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Hey guys. Need some help. I try and try to get Ping irons into my bag.

 

But Lately upon testing irons like the G, G400, GMax I do nothing but push the ball. I play std lie irons and never have issues hitting a baby draw. When I have the fitting Center build these ping irons in black dot the toe looks like it's digging into the ground compared to other irons. For example I tried Steelhead irons in std lie and those seem like they are 2-3* more upright than g400 in black dot yet specs say the Pings are only 1/2 degree flatter which should be minimal.

 

Anyone else notice this ?

 

Have you performed some dynamic lie angle testing? There are a few different ways to do this but marking the ball with a vertical stripe and then hitting the ball and looking for the angle of the transfer mark on the club face seems to be the most popular. You want the transfer mark at 90 degrees to the grooves or near.

 

I’ve tried this before but not recently with the Ping irons.

I’ll give it a whirl later in the week.

Ping G430 Max 10.5 Tensei Orange AV Raw 55 Reg

Ping G430 SFT 5w 19* Alta Black Reg

Ping G430 SFT 7w 23* Alta Black Reg

Tour Edge Xrail 5h 26* Graphite Design G-Series Reg

Ping G425 6-UW Alta Slate Reg

Ping Glide 4.0 56* WS Nippon Z-115

Cleveland CBX Full Face 2 60* DG Spinner

Cleveland Smart Sole C 4.0 

Ping 2023 Anser D

Handicap: 8.2

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Used to game G's with Recoils, also had a set of i's with Recoils. Now I'm back to G world - sold the G's and traded the i's with Recoils for a set of G400's a couple of weeks ago. I like the G400s more than the G series ... maybe it's me but I can actually chip and pitch with the G400s and I do really like the Pro Modus 105 shafts.

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Ping G425 Max 5w / 7w @ 21.5º Alta CB Slate R

Ping G425 4h @ 23.0º / 5h @ 27.0º Alta CB Slate R

Ping G425 6-UW Alta CB Slate R

Ping Glide 3.0 54° WS / 58° Eye2 Z-115

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      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Monday #1
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Monday #2
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #1
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #2
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Thorbjorn Olesen - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ben Silverman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jesse Droemer - SoTX PGA Section POY - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Martin Trainer - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jacob Bridgeman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Trace Crowe - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jimmy Walker - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Daniel Berger - WITB(very mini) - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Chesson Hadley - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Callum McNeill - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Rhein Gibson - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Patrick Fishburn - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Raul Pereda - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Gary Woodland WITB (New driver, iron shafts) – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Padraig Harrington WITB – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Tom Hoge's custom Cameron - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Piretti putters - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ping putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Kevin Dougherty's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Bettinardi putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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