It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[nova6868]

Reading through this thread, something I don't get is a fair number of pretty high swing speed folks using S300 and then switching to 130x and finding them awesome, easy to swing, etc. I am not high swing speed - 160 7 iron - and I feel S300 are too soft, spinny, high flight and a lot of curve. And, I like the 130 but in something more like R flex, maybe plus a hard step. What would be the reason some that have been playing S300 fit 130x so well? And, me, modest speed, hated the S300, but, like the 130 like in R flex? Not savvying that. More curious than anything - what works, works.

 

I just don't think iron shafts make a huge difference. Like you said, whatever works works. Its more about finding the weight and feel that you like.

 

If you look on tour you see some bombers who are playing S400 or PX 6.0 in their irons. Then you see some average tour players with PX 7.0.

[Shilgy]

Anyone with input on going from 120x to 125s? Former s300 player that liked the 120's but every single time I tried to step on it a bit out pulled/hooked left. 105 with driver of that helps average carry with the 6 iron was 170 plus a few. Also going from Nike Vapor Pro Combos to the Srixon Z765.

[jj9000]

I'll be posting a set of Callaway Apex Forged 5-PW + AW + Callaway Mack Daddy 56* wedge...all with factory installed Modus 130 Stiff...in the BST here very shortly.

[markheardjr]

Gents,

Been a long time lurker on the forum and have read every post about the Modus line of shafts. If you don't mind helping me it would be appreciated. I am re-shafting my clubs, currently playing CTaper Lite Reg hsx1 in Z565. I found CTaper Lite Stiff too boardy, CTL R hsx1 "feels" ok but flights high. CTL R was erratic but "felt" great. I was professionally fit into the CTL Reg @ Club Champion early spring but my swing has gotten much more fluid and consistent. I am an excellent striker of the ball. Current setup CTL R hsx1 7 iron is 160 carry. I put a 120 into my PW ssx1 and it "feels" fantastic and my dispersion has come down. I have a 6i ss of 78-82 depending on the day and can step on it up to ~84/85 every once in a while. I do like the lighter swingweight of the CTL R hsx1 (D2) and my 120 ssx1 swingweighted to D2.5 in the PW. Would the 120S straight in be better than ssx1? Also, what about the 105?

I'd tend to point you to 105R, maybe hardstepped or 120S straight in. 105 will be super light and a bit higher launch. 120S straight in will be lower flight and a tad heavier than 105R.

[markheardjr]

Anyone with input on going from 120x to 125s? Former s300 player that liked the 120's but every single time I tried to step on it a bit out pulled/hooked left. 105 with driver of that helps average carry with the 6 iron was 170 plus a few. Also going from Nike Vapor Pro Combos to the Srixon Z765.

 

Might try 125X soft-stepped to help combat some spin. If you like that KuroKage 70x in your FWY then 125X ssx1 will not be too stiff.

[Shilgy]

Anyone with input on going from 120x to 125s? Former s300 player that liked the 120's but every single time I tried to step on it a bit out pulled/hooked left. 105 with driver of that helps average carry with the 6 iron was 170 plus a few. Also going from Nike Vapor Pro Combos to the Srixon Z765.

 

Might try 125X soft-stepped to help combat some spin. If you like that KuroKage 70x in your FWY then 125X ssx1 will not be too stiff.

Thanks for that Mark.

[Hot Rod 71]

Anyone with input on going from 120x to 125s? Former s300 player that liked the 120's but every single time I tried to step on it a bit out pulled/hooked left. 105 with driver of that helps average carry with the 6 iron was 170 plus a few. Also going from Nike Vapor Pro Combos to the Srixon Z765.

 

Might try 125X soft-stepped to help combat some spin. If you like that KuroKage 70x in your FWY then 125X ssx1 will not be too stiff.

Thanks for that Mark.

 

I had the same question, Shilgy. I stopped into this thread to ask and the first post I arrived at was yours.

 

I don't always hook the ball when I step on it, but I do seem to hit a draw predominately with the 120X and have a hard time hitting a fade. I played C-Taper Stiff and Tour-V X (soft stepped once) prior and never had an issue hitting a fade when needed.

 

I picked up a set of 125 in Stiff for a good deal so I'm going to shaft up my 5, 7, and 9 irons for a comparison. I may hard step the 125s.

 

You and I have similar swing speeds and carry distances (105-108, 175 carry with 6 iron). I also started playing the Z-756 recently so I'm not 100% sure the head isn't partially to blame.

 

I usually play my irons at 2* upright, but after reading a little about the 120 model shafts and their very stiff tip, I may reduce my lie angle by 1* and see if that helps. I read that the very stiff tip reduces toe drop, thus making the irons play a little more upright.

[Wardonation]

Anyone with input on going from 120x to 125s? Former s300 player that liked the 120's but every single time I tried to step on it a bit out pulled/hooked left. 105 with driver of that helps average carry with the 6 iron was 170 plus a few. Also going from Nike Vapor Pro Combos to the Srixon Z765.

 

Might try 125X soft-stepped to help combat some spin. If you like that KuroKage 70x in your FWY then 125X ssx1 will not be too stiff.

Thanks for that Mark.

 

I had the same question, Shilgy. I stopped into this thread to ask and the first post I arrived at was yours.

 

I don't always hook the ball when I step on it, but I do seem to hit a draw predominately with the 120X and have a hard time hitting a fade. I played C-Taper Stiff and Tour-V X (soft stepped once) prior and never had an issue hitting a fade when needed.

 

I picked up a set of 125 in Stiff for a good deal so I'm going to shaft up my 5, 7, and 9 irons for a comparison. I may hard step the 125s.

 

You and I have similar swing speeds and carry distances (105-108, 175 carry with 6 iron). I also started playing the Z-756 recently so I'm not 100% sure the head isn't partially to blame.

 

I usually play my irons at 2* upright, but after reading a little about the 120 model shafts and their very stiff tip, I may reduce my lie angle by 1* and see if that helps. I read that the very stiff tip reduces toe drop, thus making the irons play a little more upright.

Been playing 120 X for two years recently cannot get ball to spin enough? I need help please? 107 driver 91mph 6Iron

[Shilgy]

 

 

I had the same question, Shilgy. I stopped into this thread to ask and the first post I arrived at was yours.

 

I don't always hook the ball when I step on it, but I do seem to hit a draw predominately with the 120X and have a hard time hitting a fade. I played C-Taper Stiff and Tour-V X (soft stepped once) prior and never had an issue hitting a fade when needed.

 

I picked up a set of 125 in Stiff for a good deal so I'm going to shaft up my 5, 7, and 9 irons for a comparison. I may hard step the 125s.

 

You and I have similar swing speeds and carry distances (105-108, 175 carry with 6 iron). I also started playing the Z-756 recently so I'm not 100% sure the head isn't partially to blame.

 

I usually play my irons at 2* upright, but after reading a little about the 120 model shafts and their very stiff tip, I may reduce my lie angle by 1* and see if that helps. I read that the very stiff tip reduces toe drop, thus making the irons play a little more upright.

It's not the heads as I am still in the 120x and Nike lol. Got fitted for the Srixon and 125s and waiting for the sticks to arrive. I recall reading a few times in this long thread that the 120 with the softer butt did not like the quick aggressive transition I occasionally employ.

 

 

Been playing 120 X for two years recently cannot get ball to spin enough? I need help please? 107 driver 91mph 6Iron

Plenty of spin was never an issue for me.

[Hot Rod 71]

I had the same question, Shilgy. I stopped into this thread to ask and the first post I arrived at was yours.

 

I don't always hook the ball when I step on it, but I do seem to hit a draw predominately with the 120X and have a hard time hitting a fade. I played C-Taper Stiff and Tour-V X (soft stepped once) prior and never had an issue hitting a fade when needed.

 

I picked up a set of 125 in Stiff for a good deal so I'm going to shaft up my 5, 7, and 9 irons for a comparison. I may hard step the 125s.

 

You and I have similar swing speeds and carry distances (105-108, 175 carry with 6 iron). I also started playing the Z-756 recently so I'm not 100% sure the head isn't partially to blame.

 

I usually play my irons at 2* upright, but after reading a little about the 120 model shafts and their very stiff tip, I may reduce my lie angle by 1* and see if that helps. I read that the very stiff tip reduces toe drop, thus making the irons play a little more upright.

It's not the heads as I am still in the 120x and Nike lol. Got fitted for the Srixon and 125s and waiting for the sticks to arrive. I recall reading a few times in this long thread that the 120 with the softer butt did not like the quick aggressive transition I occasionally employ.

Same here at times.

[cwbrow2]

Gents,

Been a long time lurker on the forum and have read every post about the Modus line of shafts. If you don't mind helping me it would be appreciated. I am re-shafting my clubs, currently playing CTaper Lite Reg hsx1 in Z565. I found CTaper Lite Stiff too boardy, CTL R hsx1 "feels" ok but flights high. CTL R was erratic but "felt" great. I was professionally fit into the CTL Reg @ Club Champion early spring but my swing has gotten much more fluid and consistent. I am an excellent striker of the ball. Current setup CTL R hsx1 7 iron is 160 carry. I put a 120 into my PW ssx1 and it "feels" fantastic and my dispersion has come down. I have a 6i ss of 78-82 depending on the day and can step on it up to ~84/85 every once in a while. I do like the lighter swingweight of the CTL R hsx1 (D2) and my 120 ssx1 swingweighted to D2.5 in the PW. Would the 120S straight in be better than ssx1? Also, what about the 105?

I'd tend to point you to 105R, maybe hardstepped or 120S straight in. 105 will be super light and a bit higher launch. 120S straight in will be lower flight and a tad heavier than 105R.

Thanks Mark, very much appreciated.

[Smokey227]

Any suggestions for what flex to use in the modus 130 coming from kbs tour stiff? I was thinking either stiff ssx1 or ssx2. I have tried playing the 105 stiff this year and they are too light and feel soft. Miss has been hard left. Low ball hitter with a quick transition, carry on a 6 iron is 175.

[RobDMB]

Shot my best round ever today with my z765 and modus 125 combo. Don't know if it's the clubs or the shaft but this combo seems to be working.

[Morry]

Any suggestions for what flex to use in the modus 130 coming from kbs tour stiff? I was thinking either stiff ssx1 or ssx2. I have tried playing the 105 stiff this year and they are too light and feel soft. Miss has been hard left. Low ball hitter with a quick transition, carry on a 6 iron is 175.

130s ssx2

i have similar stats with a very late release and i love them - was close on the 105 x ssx1, but made the right choice

good luck

[Smokey227]

Any suggestions for what flex to use in the modus 130 coming from kbs tour stiff? I was thinking either stiff ssx1 or ssx2. I have tried playing the 105 stiff this year and they are too light and feel soft. Miss has been hard left. Low ball hitter with a quick transition, carry on a 6 iron is 175.

130s ssx2

i have similar stats with a very late release and i love them - was close on the 105 x ssx1, but made the right choice

good luck

Thanks. That's what I was thinking from the charts Mark had posted but he never put the 130 ss values.

[CaseyDan]

Looking for suggestions/experiences for what modus shafts you play in your wedges if you use the 105 stiffs in your irons.

 

Thanks in advance for the replies.

[mtg]

If anyone is wanting to try the 120 TX I have 3 shafts available. 6,7,and 8 iron shafts. Selling all three together would be nice, but prob won't be easy, and with all the interest in the Nippon lineup might as well give someone a cheaper option to test than buying new with shipping. PM if interested.

[spooky]

Is anyone using the 130S in wedges? I'm using them in irons and like them a lot - about to get new wedges and wondering whether to just use the 130S wedge shaft, an 8-iron 130S shaft (assuming the 9 and PW are the same as they are in most irons shafts) or something else?

 

Thoughts?

[Smokey227]

Is anyone using the 130S in wedges? I'm using them in irons and like them a lot - about to get new wedges and wondering whether to just use the 130S wedge shaft, an 8-iron 130S shaft (assuming the 9 and PW are the same as they are in most irons shafts) or something else?

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm curious on this as well. The 9 and w shaft are not the same though. 9 is 37.5 and w is 37

[spooky]

Is anyone using the 130S in wedges? I'm using them in irons and like them a lot - about to get new wedges and wondering whether to just use the 130S wedge shaft, an 8-iron 130S shaft (assuming the 9 and PW are the same as they are in most irons shafts) or something else?

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm curious on this as well. The 9 and w shaft are not the same though. 9 is 37.5 and w is 37

 

Sure, but I didn't know if the step pattern was the same and they are just supplied at those lengths or if they are actually different shafts. Hopefully someone has something to say about it... ;-)

[poppman2142]

I tried a 6 iron with a 130 stiff soft stepped 2x. I liked it but hit it a touch high. It is also a little heavier than I am used to. Any thoughts on hard stepping a regular 130 and how it might play in relation to the soft stepped 130 stiff. My 6 iron swing speed is around 83. I want to not over hook the ball as well.

[JerryTBall]

Is anyone using the 130S in wedges? I'm using them in irons and like them a lot - about to get new wedges and wondering whether to just use the 130S wedge shaft, an 8-iron 130S shaft (assuming the 9 and PW are the same as they are in most irons shafts) or something else?

 

Thoughts?

I've got the 130 and 105's stiff in my ping glides and cf16 wedges and I really can't feel the difference nice high flight on both good dispersion

[Galanga]

Just hit two buckets with my six, 6 iron demos I built with 130R straight in, 130R HS1, 130S SS1, 125S, 125S SS1, and 105S HS1. Already tried the 120x and it did not work for me - spinny and short.

 

I am not a fast swinger - 55 yo guy with arthritis - hit 7 iron 160 and low 100's driver swing speed. Have a moderately late release - 3 on the Mizuno Optimizer. Probably the original Rifles and PX 5.5 were my best shafts to date.

 

Hands down for feel during the swing, weight and impact feel and quality 130S SS1 was the winner. I think it still spins a bit too much and 130S straight in will be the fit. 130S just felt like a part of me if that makes sense. Love! the feel. Straight or 1 yard fade probably the norm. Moderately high. Could draw it but harder to draw for me than to fade. I don't think I am any longer than my gamer 6 iron, but, way more consistent and love the feel much more.

 

All the Nippon shafts I tried felt better and would work better than what I have in - Paderson TSI x stiff (85 gm) which I pull draw way too often.

 

Going to get on Trackman next weekend with all the six iron demos, plus my gamer 6 iron, and see what the numbers say. Wish I had a 130S straight in demo club at this point, but, I don't think that is going to happen due to time constraints. Taking a while to demo all these shafts, but, in the long run, I hope it pays off.

[Galanga]

If the 130S is the winner for me, and I am pretty sure it will be, the next step is finding shafts for my woods that are comparable. May try the Nippon matching shaft - the Reggio M, but, it is pricey and I certainly can't afford to play around with flex and tipping like I did with the iron shafts. But, would like to find lower cost alternatives. I think I am very sensitive to different shaft profiles, but, not good at adjusting to them. What I hate is a shaft that is too soft in the middle - I seem to load at about P5 and most shafts seem to bend in the middle for me too much and it makes me typically late on what I perceive as a good swing, or, I flip it left to try to compensate.

 

Anyone know of graphite shaft alternatives to the Reggio M that have a relatively stiff butt, stiffer mid and softer tip - something like 6754 or 5643 in the international flex code (higher number = stiffer, lower number = softer; numbers, left to right, are butt to tip)?

 

High price point but maybe the AD MJ or AD MT?

[Smokey227]

Just hit two buckets with my six, 6 iron demos I built with 130R straight in, 130R HS1, 130S SS1, 125S, 125S SS1, and 105S HS1. Already tried the 120x and it did not work for me - spinny and short.

 

I am not a fast swinger - 55 yo guy with arthritis - hit 7 iron 160 and low 100's driver swing speed. Have a moderately late release - 3 on the Mizuno Optimizer. Probably the original Rifles and PX 5.5 were my best shafts to date.

 

Hands down for feel during the swing, weight and impact feel and quality 130S SS1 was the winner. I think it still spins a bit too much and 130S straight in will be the fit. 130S just felt like a part of me if that makes sense. Love! the feel. Straight or 1 yard fade probably the norm. Moderately high. Could draw it but harder to draw for me than to fade. I don't think I am any longer than my gamer 6 iron, but, way more consistent and love the feel much more.

 

All the Nippon shafts I tried felt better and would work better than what I have in - Paderson TSI x stiff (85 gm) which I pull draw way too often.

 

Going to get on Trackman next weekend with all the six iron demos, plus my gamer 6 iron, and see what the numbers say. Wish I had a 130S straight in demo club at this point, but, I don't think that is going to happen due to time constraints. Taking a while to demo all these shafts, but, in the long run, I hope it pays off.

 

Any chance you can compare the 130s ssx1 to the 105s hsx1? I just got a set of 130s and I am trying to decide how I want to install them. Everything i read says ssx1 or ssx2, but your post has me wondering. I also hates the 120.

[Galanga]

Smokey - i will try to compare 130s ss1 to 105s hs1. Flex wise they are about the same - that is neither was too stiff although 130s ss1 FELT less stiff to me I think because they are tip soft. I wouldn't worry too much about the 130s ss1 if you are circa in my genre of shaft (px5.5 or s300/400). 105 and 130 flighted it about the same for me. The 105 felt more of one piece w middish bend a relatively stiff tip 130 was stable and just butter for me. 130 has this s great soft smashing impact feel. For my swing the 105 felt more harsh at impact but certainly still great. 105 didn't really feel that much lighter than the 130 as I expected.

 

[Smokey227]

Smokey - i will try to compare 130s ss1 to 105s hs1. Flex wise they are about the same - that is neither was too stiff although 130s ss1 FELT less stiff to me I think because they are tip soft. I wouldn't worry too much about the 130s ss1 if you are circa in my genre of shaft (px5.5 or s300/400). 105 and 130 flighted it about the same for me. The 105 felt more of one piece w middish bend a relatively stiff tip 130 was stable and just butter for me. 130 has this s great soft smashing impact feel. For my swing the 105 felt more harsh at impact but certainly still great. 105 didn't really feel that much lighter than the 130 as I expected.

 

Thanks. I really appreciate it. The 105s was both too light for me and a little soft. Have has good luck with the kbs tours although they spin a little too much and the px 5.5, which I hit well but felt a little harsh. It's been a long time since I played s300s though.

 

I'm out of town for the next week so I have a week before I get to put these together and try them. Plenty of time to over think everything.

[mtg]

Anyone know of graphite shaft alternatives to the Reggio M that have a relatively stiff butt, stiffer mid and softer tip - something like 6754 or 5643 in the international flex code (higher number = stiffer, lower number = softer; numbers, left to right, are butt to tip)?

 

High price point but maybe the AD MJ or AD MT?

 

Fujikura pro tour spec. The black and white one that came out a couple years ago. I know the XLR8 profile is different, not sure about the latest Fuji pro.. but that black and white one has a real stiff mid that goes into a softer tip. JB Holmes swings it, among others.

[mtg]

Is anyone using the 130S in wedges? I'm using them in irons and like them a lot - about to get new wedges and wondering whether to just use the 130S wedge shaft, an 8-iron 130S shaft (assuming the 9 and PW are the same as they are in most irons shafts) or something else?

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm curious on this as well. The 9 and w shaft are not the same though. 9 is 37.5 and w is 37

 

Sure, but I didn't know if the step pattern was the same and they are just supplied at those lengths or if they are actually different shafts. Hopefully someone has something to say about it... ;-)

 

Just got the 125x. The step patterns on the 9 and PW are in fact different.

 

Going to leave more extended feedback on the 125s soon, but first impressions have been really nice.

[Dent]

After some extensive testing for the majority of the season with My AP2s and Modus 120x I feel these shafts have been a failed experiment. Unfortunately I don't have numbers but the results in these are no different than my S300s in the AP2s. Ball flight was a touch higher with the modus, but spin was also much higher. A lot of users have described these shafts as almost having no feeling or snap at impact compared to the S300, I didn't really like this as much as I thought I did initially.

 

I mostly blame this on the swing, but I also haven't hit as many shanks in the past 3 years as I have this year with these irons. Anyways, I'm open to the thought of selling my 3-PW AP2 set with the modus, or shafts only.