It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[JerryTBall]

I am new to the Nippon 105x shaft, and just getting used to the lighter weight over the PX 6.0, but man is it smooth shaft. I don't agree on the "muscle swing" thing. I would say different swing.. They make a variety of Modus to fit many swing types..

 

Like I was saying I wasn’t fit for those I pretty much just researched online how much they weighed more than my dynamic gold S 300 what launch, as for the instead of the muscle thing let’s just say faster swing tempo hit them good but my faster tempo just did not work with that shaft 100% Let’s say I wanted to hit a draw into our back pin on a par three and I got a little too quick it would really go more left that I needed or the fade cut shot we got a little higher in a little too far right

[Warrick]

I have a set of 125S in a set of JPX 900F, love the feel, but with this iron, a little more spin and higher launch were needed.

 

I got a second set of 900F with PX LZ ssx1, and am really enjoying them, gave me just what I wanted.

 

I am looking at another set of irons, neither shaft is available at "no upcharge" , so was trying to decide if a 120, or 130 Modus would fit better. i thought about 105, but need the weight. I supposed DG AMT is a possible option.

 

If I like the LZ and the 125, any suggestions between 120/130/DG?

[Smitty120]

I was playing the other day with a very well known WRX Celebrity and he had the 120TX in his irons. I have always been a DG x-100 guy since playing in school. Currently have 750's with them and 14MB with DG 120's.

 

When we were done we hit the range and he handed me his six iron. Color me impressed. Tighter dispersion and deff was carrying a good 5 yards farther. Like so many said the "feel" is just so smooth. Grabbed some to put into my 750's And Vokey wedges. Will test this coming weekend down tan East Lake.

[noodle3872]

I have a set of 125S in a set of JPX 900F, love the feel, but with this iron, a little more spin and higher launch were needed.

 

I got a second set of 900F with PX LZ ssx1, and am really enjoying them, gave me just what I wanted.

 

I am looking at another set of irons, neither shaft is available at "no upcharge" , so was trying to decide if a 120, or 130 Modus would fit better. i thought about 105, but need the weight. I supposed DG AMT is a possible option.

 

If I like the LZ and the 125, any suggestions between 120/130/DG?

 

If you like the LZ’s soft feel in you hand, try the 120’s. The soft butt section and soft mid should feel somewhat familiar.

[noodle3872]

I am new to the Nippon 105x shaft, and just getting used to the lighter weight over the PX 6.0, but man is it smooth shaft. I don't agree on the "muscle swing" thing. I would say different swing.. They make a variety of Modus to fit many swing types..

 

Like I was saying I wasn’t fit for those I pretty much just researched online how much they weighed more than my dynamic gold S 300 what launch, as for the instead of the muscle thing let’s just say faster swing tempo hit them good but my faster tempo just did not work with that shaft 100% Let’s say I wanted to hit a draw into our back pin on a par three and I got a little too quick it would really go more left that I needed or the fade cut shot we got a little higher in a little too far right

 

How do you know the ball flight height was hurting you? Was there ballooning? What did the launch monitor say when you hit the Modus? I bet the 125 stiff hard stepped would have been a good alternative if you wanted to stay with Nippon.

[speeder757]

Has anyone had any success with Soft Stepping a 130X? I tried the S flex and it was just a bit to loose down at the tip for me. I normally play PX 6.5 or X100 but i am a little gun shy about the 130X straight in based on reading the reviews here.

 

Thanks

[Warrick]

I have a set of 125S in a set of JPX 900F, love the feel, but with this iron, a little more spin and higher launch were needed.

 

I got a second set of 900F with PX LZ ssx1, and am really enjoying them, gave me just what I wanted.

 

I am looking at another set of irons, neither shaft is available at "no upcharge" , so was trying to decide if a 120, or 130 Modus would fit better. i thought about 105, but need the weight. I supposed DG AMT is a possible option.

 

If I like the LZ and the 125, any suggestions between 120/130/DG?

 

If you like the LZ’s soft feel in you hand, try the 120’s. The soft butt section and soft mid should feel somewhat familiar.

 

I see someone posted the 120 has an extra stiff tip section. I am guessing I can make this work if was able to get along with C-Taper 130x.

 

I have also read the 120 plays a touch soft, so maybe an X?

[JerryTBall]

Yeah noodle I don’t have any launch monitor numbers I was looking for my swing speed and the guy that was helping me out really we weren’t looking at launch and I can’t say ballooning it was more got up quicker than I expected, kind a like the 40 foot pine tree in front of you I mean I could launch one over top of it like maybe 50 yards in front of me, they’re great shaft maybe the X would been better option, but after watching me hit several ball I was told I’d have better success hitting it a little lower and instead of trying to modify my swing or ball position to do that, I just don’t think I want to keep telling myself on course keep flight it down hit that shot, I like to try to play it from the same spot so that’s how we came up with the X 100 soft step one time so we’ll see. I’m also mixing up my new set of irons going with the MP18 MMC and a long irons in the hi-fli version. But like I said the Nippon shaft is a great shaft and I went through every dynamic gold KBS that would fit me. the C-taper stiff oh my god that is the heaviest hardest shaft I’ve ever hit I did not like it at all I’m 64 so I can tell you right now I never hurt after around of golf with those Nippon shafts and the fitter saw me hit my 105‘s my 130s and then we tried the AMT in dynamic gold which if you’re not going to carry anything above a five iron the AMT is kind of not really what you want because it’s almost like a standard dynamic gold shaft so don’t let any of my reviews make you rethink. I still shoot the 70s with those shafts I just think maybe I could do a little better so we’ll see that’s what the fitter suggested.

[Morry]

Those of you playing 130s, what are you playing in your driver? Did you look for a similar profile, or just happens to be what works for you?

Hz yellow 5.5 and Evenflow Blue 6.0 - in a g400 standard

alternating mostly right now between them

[mtg]

Ok so need some help guys. Here we go

 

I have played two different shafts in the last 10 years. For the most part I have played the Project X 6.0 Flighted Shafts. I briefly tried the DG X Seven ssx2 and they were the closest thing to replicating the PX flighted shaft. I did that to find a replacement for the PX 6.0 flighted shafts because they don't make them anymore and frankly I am tired of running around on ebay buying what I thought was PX flighted shafts only to find out they were fakes. So here I am trying to find a set of shafts for my 718's. My faces on the 716s are pretty worn out and post US Mid Am I am going to transition to those heads. I tried normal PX 6.0s and they are not leaving thru the same window. They are leaving too high which consequently has them going up and left as well. I like the 6.0's because they are super smooth and I don't have to "jump" on anything to hit it the proper distance and I can flight them down pretty easily.

 

I have hit the Modus 120's in X and they are really really nice but feel maybe a half flex stiffer to me. I "think" I had a set of Mizuno Yoro Custom irons with Modus 125's in X and if I remember right those were great. I worked them really well and they had a crazy good dispersion. I go the irons in a trade and I didn't keep them. I can't remember what shafts they were but I KNOW they were a Modus shaft in X. I REALLY like them. Theoretically would it be easier for me to transition to the 125's over the 120's? I don't want anything that is going to spin too much. I have thought about trying to soft step the 120's in X to see how those feel but don't have much knowledge in soft stepping Modus shafts. I know True Temper says trying to hard or soft step the PX shafts don't do anything because the tip length is the same and they are close to flex between the two. I generally like the profile of a PX flighted shaft ( stiff butt and stiffish mid section with tip being able to work it some. I really appreciate all the help. Wish there was a chart that had a comparable type analysis saying DG X100+ 130s+ or S400 = 125 S etc. etc. HELP!!

 

I want to find a shaft that is still made so I can be comfortable in the fact that If something happens to my clubs I can replace them with a shaft that is still available.

 

Best thing I can think of is building a flighted set yourself. SSx2 some PX 7.0s into 8-P. 6.5ssx1 into mid irons and 6.0 into the longs. Some variation on this idea anyway. This will also give you a bit of an MOI match.. if you play with headweights you can get almost a perfect MOI match with a swingweight scale. Sounds like a pain in the a**, but I bet that'd be a great setup.

 

I'm a PX guy and honestly haven't found anything better. Non-flighted that is though...

 

Modus 130 could be an option. I've played 120 and 125 in TX and X. Both are good but neither stayed in my bag, was back to PX.

[BigHook25]

I have a set of 125S in a set of JPX 900F, love the feel, but with this iron, a little more spin and higher launch were needed.

 

I got a second set of 900F with PX LZ ssx1, and am really enjoying them, gave me just what I wanted.

 

I am looking at another set of irons, neither shaft is available at "no upcharge" , so was trying to decide if a 120, or 130 Modus would fit better. i thought about 105, but need the weight. I supposed DG AMT is a possible option.

 

If I like the LZ and the 125, any suggestions between 120/130/DG?

 

Interesting, as I'm looking at reshafting my 900 forged with the 125x.

[Warrick]

I did not like the 120S, never hit so many draws. It felt softer in the hands than the 125 or my PX LZ, just did not really care for it.

 

130 maybe a better fit?

[noodle3872]

I really do not believe the 130 would be a good fit for you. If you tend to like the 125, I would stick with that shaft or your LZ. The 130 is a tricky shaft to fit people into from what I’ve seen. I’ve been playing PX 6.0 (which weren’t a perfect fit for me) and on a whim tried the 130 against it since many people believe they are similar. It took 5 swings for me to know the 130 was not a shaft for me. My release was too early for the 130. I would have the 125 in my current clubs however I wanted to go a lighter shaft and I needed a slightly higher ball flight due to my low spin. Ended up in the 105’s.

 

 

[Oknows]

I really do not believe the 130 would be a good fit for you. If you tend to like the 125, I would stick with that shaft or your LZ. The 130 is a tricky shaft to fit people into from what I’ve seen. I’ve been playing PX 6.0 (which weren’t a perfect fit for me) and on a whim tried the 130 against it since many people believe they are similar. It took 5 swings for me to know the 130 was not a shaft for me. My release was too early for the 130. I would have the 125 in my current clubs however I wanted to go a lighter shaft and I needed a slightly higher ball flight due to my low spin. Ended up in the 105’s.

 

When you say your release was too early, what did that look like from a ball flight perspective? Were you having a hard time getting the ball off the ground, or were you hitting it too high?

[noodle3872]

I couldn’t feel the shaft bending like I’m use to so I was casting the club which added loft. The ball flight was insanely high and with a loss of distance. I’ve found for my swing I can get good results with shafts that have either a soft butt or mid section so I can feel some loading of the shaft. The stiff butt and mid of the 130 didn’t allow me to feel the shaft load. Put the 105/125 or even the 120 in the demo club and my strike/compression of the ball returned. The ball flight was penetrating with consistent distance and dispersion.

[chch3]

So I am thinking about going to modus. I played recoil 110 and px 5.5 recently. From what I have been reading, I am thinking 130s soft stepped. And if I want to try the 120 I would use 120X soft stepped. Would that be correct?

[Oknows]

So I am thinking about going to modus. I played recoil 110 and px 5.5 recently. From what I have been reading, I am thinking 130s soft stepped. And if I want to try the 120 I would use 120X soft stepped. Would that be correct?

 

I would not recommend 5.5 to 120x regardless of stepping. Play 130 stiff, previously PX 6.0, and the 120 stiff was plenty. Just because it feels soft to some, doesn’t mean it plays that way.

[chch3]

So I am thinking about going to modus. I played recoil 110 and px 5.5 recently. From what I have been reading, I am thinking 130s soft stepped. And if I want to try the 120 I would use 120X soft stepped. Would that be correct?

 

I would not recommend 5.5 to 120x regardless of stepping. Play 130 stiff, previously PX 6.0, and the 120 stiff was plenty. Just because it feels soft to some, doesn’t mean it plays that way.

I have just seen a lot of people in this thread say that they moved from PX 6.0 to 130S. PX 6.0 is definitely too stiff for me. That is why I thought 130S soft stepped would be good.

 

My swing has changed since I was fitted for PX 5.5. the most recent shafts were 110 F4.

[Oknows]

My response was to the 120x. 5.5 to 120x doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. 5.5 to 130s soft stepped maybe. I have read comments that stepping won’t have a big effect on 130s because of the profile. Never tried it though.

[Morry]

what is your driver and 6i swing speed?

130s ssx1 would be ok, but the weight will be the biggest issue, not necessarily the flex - big change from the 110's, isn't it?

 

then the shaft profile is the next issue - 120 and 130 could Not be more different and fit totally opposite swings in my mind

might want to match that pattern as well as the weight

 

and, unless the swing speed is quite high or transition violent, I think the s flex in any of them will be right

 

good luck

[chch3]

what is your driver and 6i swing speed?

130s ssx1 would be ok, but the weight will be the biggest issue, not necessarily the flex - big change from the 110's, isn't it?

 

then the shaft profile is the next issue - 120 and 130 could Not be more different and fit totally opposite swings in my mind

might want to match that pattern as well as the weight

 

and, unless the swing speed is quite high or transition violent, I think the s flex in any of them will be right

 

good luck

Driver swing speed is around 110. 6 iron swing speed is around 90. Transition can be a little violent. Heavier doesn't bother me. Heavier clubs help with my tempo. I have struggled lately with lighter clubs.

[Morry]

what is your driver and 6i swing speed?

130s ssx1 would be ok, but the weight will be the biggest issue, not necessarily the flex - big change from the 110's, isn't it?

 

then the shaft profile is the next issue - 120 and 130 could Not be more different and fit totally opposite swings in my mind

might want to match that pattern as well as the weight

 

and, unless the swing speed is quite high or transition violent, I think the s flex in any of them will be right

 

good luck

Driver swing speed is around 110. 6 iron swing speed is around 90. Transition can be a little violent. Heavier doesn't bother me. Heavier clubs help with my tempo. I have struggled lately with lighter clubs.

You are on the right path then

i still think the S should be enough, especially in the 130

profile will determine if the 120 or 125 is better for you - even odds on whether the S or X soft-stepped fits best

the 120 is either the holy grail or a club you won't be able to hit properly at all - it doesn't work for me, but many swear by it

[chch3]

So I bought a 120x 8 iron shaft last week. I put it straight in my 8 iron. I took it to the range today and I really like the shaft. Ball flight is no higher than what I have been playing. Feel was rediculously good. Even on bad strikes. They are not harsh at all. I am hitting the ball a little out on the toe, but I am guessing I would need to have my lie checked out with the modus and adjust it accordingly. I have been playing graphite and never hit the ball consistently with different shafts. One range session with the modus and I am hitting it much more consistent. I know what my winter project is going to be.

[KeithM38]

I can not find for the life of me a comparison of the wedge 125 and C-Taper. Right now Im using 130x in my irons and 130x C-Tapers in my wedges (not fit for either, just purchased). When I get new wedges this winter I think I want the nippon 125x, so was hoping someone has been able to compare them. I do feel the C-Tapers have a high flight, but I can have a steep AOA, So has anyone made the switch?

[Doyouevenblade]

Finally had a chance to take my 125x out for a quick spin on the range yesterday. I unfortunately haven't hit my clubs in a while so a direct comparisons can't be precise. Coming from a life long s300 player the feel is better. I wouldn't say night and day but if you are looking for it, it is noticeable. The shafts seem to filter out all the bad feelings very well, only left with a blissful sensation. I have these installed in some mizuno mp5's and the feel is just wonderful. Even some 'thinner' shots in the cold yesterday didn't leave my hands vibrating for days.

 

I have hit the C-Taper X, PX 6.5, PX6.5 LZ, Modus 120x and X100 in the MP18 MBs at a demo day and I like the x100 the most out of that group. As Nippon and everyone else says in this thread, if you like the x100 this shaft is the comparable in the Nippon range.

 

I was hitting into a 30-40km (20-25mph) head wind on the range but the balls where laser straight. I normal hit it quite straight but these where all rulers, i can't wait to get these out on the course and hit some real balls off some real grass.

 

Note: I swing a 6i around 90mph and have been recommended Xshift shafts in the past, so i decided to take the plunge with these.

[mokedaddy]

Just got my new set of SPO's from golf theory. Manufacturer date of 10/2016 so they are still making them.

 

Cant wait to get these in the new Pings.

[KeithM38]

I can not find for the life of me a comparison of the wedge 125 and C-Taper. Right now Im using 130x in my irons and 130x C-Tapers in my wedges (not fit for either, just purchased). When I get new wedges this winter I think I want the nippon 125x, so was hoping someone has been able to compare them. I do feel the C-Tapers have a high flight, but I can have a steep AOA, So has anyone made the switch or comparison?

Does anyone have any insight to this?

[Smokey227]

I have spent a good part of this golf season playing musical shafts. I have tried 105s, 120s, 130s ssx1, AWT 2.0 and 105x. Thought I would share my thoughts. I had played KBS tour 120s for the last 4 years. Always been a little bit of a low ball hitter, hard transition and hit 7 iron 165-170. Currently a 4.5 handicap. Biggest issue with the kbs tour was missing hard left at times.

 

Demod the i200s at a ping demo day with the 105s and immediately fell in love, but I only hit the 7 iron. Bought the set. As long as I kept my tempo in check I hit the 4-7 fantastic, but really struggled with the weight in the short irons. A lot of dead pulls and some thin. Never could get used to the weight in the shorter irons.

 

Found a set of 120s pulls and I felt like I had to slow everything down. Not a good fit for me. Moved on quickly.

 

Found a set of 130s and ssx1 on the install. Loved the feel and the flight, but they felt really stiff to me. If I was not really aggressive with my swing the results suffered. The misses were bad, but when my swing was on the results were fantastic. I just felt like I had to work too hard to make them work.

 

Found a cheap set of awt 2.0 pulls and tried them. I could play these shafts but the miss went hard left. Fixed the weight issue in the wedges, but the feel was not on par with the modus shafts.

 

Finally bought the 105x. Never thought I could handle the x flex, but I had tried everything else and the weight felt really good. Took them to the range and couldn't believe how smooth they were. The long irons had almost the same flight as the 105s but more stable and a little less spin. The short irons have enough weight that I can control my wedges again. I don't feel the need to really go after them, but I can if I want to. First shaft i have ever played that launch high enough for me in my irons, but I don't lose control.

[chch3]

I would go up a flex in the 120's for sure. I got 120X and they are perfect flex wise for me. My previous iron shafts were PX5.5, Recoil F4, and Paderson S.

[Smitty120]

Life time X-100 TI user. Local WRX’er and + Cap’er let me try his 120TX and made me a believer. Tighter dispersion than X-100 for me, launch angle is the same. Slightly higher peak height and ball does not ballon. Gained about 3-4 yards carry. The Best thing is the feel. So smooth and after 18+ holes the shafts do not feel heavy to me Like the x-100 did.