It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[GooseHook]

> @ProjectX_Mizuno said:

> How do the Modus 105X hold up for high swing speed players w/ moderate to high spin rates?

 

Probably okay, but depending on your tempo the 125x or 120x might be a better choice.

[juniorgolf18]

About to drop some 850gh's in a set. Very popular shaft on LPGA from what I've been researching.

[xGameOver]

Anyone know how nippon modus compares to $ taper x?

[joakimpekkari]

I completely fell in love with the Nippon Modus 130X when I did my custom fitting for my Z745's. Been gaming the same shaft in my wedges too with great success! Currently waiting for my new combo set with Z Forged, Z 785, Z 585 and RTX-4 wedges, can't wait! :smiley:

[RobDMB]

I have 125X now but am considering trying Modus 120 in a set of Apex. Flexwise, would 120X or 120TX be the transition? If Callaway only has the 120X should I hardship them? My iron swing speed is anywhere from 88-94mph depending on day and how hard I am swinging if that helps (probably generally on the lower range if swinging smooth).

 

Also, how do the Modus 120 tend to fare for people with an early release?

[HuskyFan]

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether I would fit better into a Modus 120 stiff or x stiff? The fitter I was working with only had a stiff for me to try and I really liked the feel. I have a 90ish mph 7i swing speed and I registered 4s across the board on the Mizuno swing analyzer, except for toe down which I believe was a 3.

 

Modus 120 x stiff was actually fifth or sixth on the swing analyzer’s recommendation. Top three were Project X, C tapers, and DG 120 (forget the flexes on these, may have been a combo of stiff and x stiff).

[raywutang]

> @HuskyFan said:

> Does anyone have any thoughts on whether I would fit better into a Modus 120 stiff or x stiff? The fitter I was working with only had a stiff for me to try and I really liked the feel. I have a 90ish mph 7i swing speed and I registered 4s across the board on the Mizuno swing analyzer, except for toe down which I believe was a 3.

>

> Modus 120 x stiff was actually fifth or sixth on the swing analyzer’s recommendation. Top three were Project X, C tapers, and DG 120 (forget the flexes on these, may have been a combo of stiff and x stiff).

 

Obviously, a lot goes into what stiffness in a shaft would work for you, but I will offer this tidbit of information. I went through a fitting last month and my ss with a 7i was in the mid-80s, my fitter had me try the 120 in X flex. In other shafts (KBS, PX), I was trying out stiff flexes.

 

I think it would be worth your while to track down a X to try, else you'll always be thinking what if.

[HuskyFan]

> @raywutang said:

> > @HuskyFan said:

> > Does anyone have any thoughts on whether I would fit better into a Modus 120 stiff or x stiff? The fitter I was working with only had a stiff for me to try and I really liked the feel. I have a 90ish mph 7i swing speed and I registered 4s across the board on the Mizuno swing analyzer, except for toe down which I believe was a 3.

> >

> > Modus 120 x stiff was actually fifth or sixth on the swing analyzer’s recommendation. Top three were Project X, C tapers, and DG 120 (forget the flexes on these, may have been a combo of stiff and x stiff).

>

> Obviously, a lot goes into what stiffness in a shaft would work for you, but I will offer this tidbit of information. I went through a fitting last month and my ss with a 7i was in the mid-80s, my fitter had me try the 120 in X flex. In other shafts (KBS, PX), I was trying out stiff flexes.

>

> I think it would be worth your while to track down a X to try, else you'll always be thinking what if.

 

Thanks for the tip. Did you also try the 120 in stiff? If so, did the x stiff lose some of the smoothness of the stiff?

[raywutang]

> @HuskyFan said:

> > @raywutang said:

> > > @HuskyFan said:

> > > Does anyone have any thoughts on whether I would fit better into a Modus 120 stiff or x stiff? The fitter I was working with only had a stiff for me to try and I really liked the feel. I have a 90ish mph 7i swing speed and I registered 4s across the board on the Mizuno swing analyzer, except for toe down which I believe was a 3.

> > >

> > > Modus 120 x stiff was actually fifth or sixth on the swing analyzer’s recommendation. Top three were Project X, C tapers, and DG 120 (forget the flexes on these, may have been a combo of stiff and x stiff).

> >

> > Obviously, a lot goes into what stiffness in a shaft would work for you, but I will offer this tidbit of information. I went through a fitting last month and my ss with a 7i was in the mid-80s, my fitter had me try the 120 in X flex. In other shafts (KBS, PX), I was trying out stiff flexes.

> >

> > I think it would be worth your while to track down a X to try, else you'll always be thinking what if.

>

> Thanks for the tip. Did you also try the 120 in stiff? If so, did the x stiff lose some of the smoothness of the stiff?

 

unfortunately i did not try the stiff in the 120. i was working with a very reputable fitter, so i just went with the flow. we ruled out the modus pretty quickly for me after a couple of swings.

[North Butte]

Just how flexy is a Modus 105-R iron shaft in a long iron?

 

I saw video of a really too-quick and abrupt swing I made with a 4-iron (I'm not sure the word "transition" would even apply to that move) and the shaft bent a lot at the top and was bowed slightly again at impact. Given that I only swing a driver at 90mph and hit that 4-iron about 175 yards I don't expect to see much bending.

 

It's probably a camera artifact unless the Modus 105 is a pretty soft version of "R" flex.

[agood3putt]

Just got fit for the '19 Apex irons and the best of the fitting cart was the Modus 3 105 Stiff. What a shaft! Custom ordered the irons with those shafts on the spot!

[ProjectX_Mizuno]

Matthew Wolff just picked up another win for Nippon. WITB shows he has the Modus 130X shafts. May have to give these a try.

[drvrwdge]

> @ProjectX_Mizuno said:

> How do the Modus 105X hold up for high swing speed players w/ moderate to high spin rates?

 

i played these for a bit and had no issue at all. The X is actually like 119 grams I think and the shaft is actually designed to create lower launch in the stronger flexes. There's a good review on golfshaftreviews.info

[JD3]

Was never a fan of the NS line (always felt too "spongy" to me), but I tried one of the modus on a demo and it felt great. Many options to choose from and I'm pretty much done on equipment changes for the year, may look into next.

[agood3putt]

> @JD3 said:

> Was never a fan of the NS line (always felt too "spongy" to me), but I tried one of the modus on a demo and it felt great. Many options to choose from and I'm pretty much done on equipment changes for the year, may look into next.

 

I was pleasantly surprised when my fitter put me into the Modus 105 how good the shaft felt. Coming from the Project X LZ 120's

[drvrwdge]

I will say in general that nothing feels as good as a Nippon and its not even close. Hard to explain really.

[jokerusn]

Now that I have Nippon shafts in my irons, I'm never going to anything else. These are the lightest but best iron shafts I've ever used.

[Tdsjfb]

Ok - read the first 50 pages and will read the next 117 tomorrow. I'm 59, played the KBS Tour Stiff for 8 years. Love the feel! But, as has been said, balloon too much. With a 6 iron around 86 (quick transition), I think the best shaft option is the 120, but not sure whether I should go (stiff) straight in, stiff hard step, or X soft step? I can tell you, hitting the straight up 120 stiff, it felt softer compared to the KBS Tour Stiff. I'm thinking Modus 120 Stiff Hard Stepped? Or would the X soft stepped be closer in weight to the KBS Tour Stiff?

 

FWIW - I'm planning on using these Modus 120s in the MP-20 MMCs.

[AlohaJoe]

I want to try the 125 and am curious which flex to get. 7i SS = 82-84 mph normal playing range.

 

I overpower 105 S, and 105 X is borderline enough weight and stiffness (probably need more head weight, then might need HS). But the overall feel and flex profile is incredible.

[jjmurry]

I've read something like 30 pages in this thread today and just wanted to get a final opinion regarding my recent purchase. I've been a long time C Taper 130X player, but I've realized that at this point I need something lighter and more friendly to swing. My fitter put me into a set of Srixon Z785's with Modus 120X's and want to get an understanding of the profile a little better. It appears that the ball flight will be higher than the C Taper 130X's with higher spin as well? I hit my C Tapers fairly low with a propensity to pull it left.

 

My fitter has requested that I get the Srixons bent 2* strong as well, so in your opinion do you think the ball flight will flatten out with the Modus 120X's? I'm not too worried about spin because that can be tweaked with a change in golf ball - likely going from a Snell MTB X to a MTB Black.

 

Overall - are Modus 120's the lowest launching but medium spin option? I'm swinging my 7i 90 mph with a fairly smooth transition (I've worked significantly on my tempo of late) and do not want to see my ball go left? Is this the shaft for me?

[AlohaJoe]

Did you get to hit the 120 before buying it? It’s got a really different profile. I would really want to try it first.

[jjmurry]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> > @jjmurry said:

> > I've read something like 30 pages in this thread today and just wanted to get a final opinion regarding my recent purchase. I've been a long time C Taper 130X player, but I've realized that at this point I need something lighter and more friendly to swing. My fitter put me into a set of Srixon Z785's with Modus 120X's and want to get an understanding of the profile a little better. It appears that the ball flight will be higher than the C Taper 130X's with higher spin as well? I hit my C Tapers fairly low with a propensity to pull it left.

> >

> > My fitter has requested that I get the Srixons bent 2* strong as well, so in your opinion do you think the ball flight will flatten out with the Modus 120X's? I'm not too worried about spin because that can be tweaked with a change in golf ball - likely going from a Snell MTB X to a MTB Black.

> >

> > Overall - are Modus 120's the lowest launching but medium spin option? I'm swinging my 7i 90 mph with a fairly smooth transition (I've worked significantly on my tempo of late) and do not want to see my ball go left? Is this the shaft for me?

>

> I think you may be better suited with the 125X that has more of DG X100 like profile.

 

Interesting... I've never been a fan of the DG line for some reason. It's never matched my swing well so maybe the 120 loaded a little better for me? 120X seems to be the lowest launching in the Modus line, correct?

[jjmurry]

> @AlohaJoe said:

> Did you get to hit the 120 before buying it? It’s got a really different profile. I would really want to try it first.

 

I did! I really enjoyed the feel, I know I can swing it 100% throughout my round without tiring with it. My issue with the C tapers was that they required what feels like my max effort throughout the swing. If I want to hit a knock down I could never time it right. Perhaps I will be able to swing a little slower with the 120x and will be able to flight it better?

[jjmurry]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> > @jjmurry said:

> > > @Putn4par1 said:

> > > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > I've read something like 30 pages in this thread today and just wanted to get a final opinion regarding my recent purchase. I've been a long time C Taper 130X player, but I've realized that at this point I need something lighter and more friendly to swing. My fitter put me into a set of Srixon Z785's with Modus 120X's and want to get an understanding of the profile a little better. It appears that the ball flight will be higher than the C Taper 130X's with higher spin as well? I hit my C Tapers fairly low with a propensity to pull it left.

> > > >

> > > > My fitter has requested that I get the Srixons bent 2* strong as well, so in your opinion do you think the ball flight will flatten out with the Modus 120X's? I'm not too worried about spin because that can be tweaked with a change in golf ball - likely going from a Snell MTB X to a MTB Black.

> > > >

> > > > Overall - are Modus 120's the lowest launching but medium spin option? I'm swinging my 7i 90 mph with a fairly smooth transition (I've worked significantly on my tempo of late) and do not want to see my ball go left? Is this the shaft for me?

> > >

> > > I think you may be better suited with the 125X that has more of DG X100 like profile.

> >

> > Interesting... I've never been a fan of the DG line for some reason. It's never matched my swing well so maybe the 120 loaded a little better for me? 120X seems to be the lowest launching in the Modus line, correct?

>

> No, at least not from my experience. The 125X feels more sturdy than the 120X to me and the 125X has a much lower launch and less spin. I think the 125X is a much closer comparison the C Taper 130X.

 

Wow really? I had no idea. Everywhere I look I hear that 120 is lower launching than 125 & 130. I'll keep looking into it. Worst case scenario I bring it back to my fitter and swap out to something else.

[GolfNPizza2]

> @jjmurry said:

> > @Putn4par1 said:

> > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > @Putn4par1 said:

> > > > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > > I've read something like 30 pages in this thread today and just wanted to get a final opinion regarding my recent purchase. I've been a long time C Taper 130X player, but I've realized that at this point I need something lighter and more friendly to swing. My fitter put me into a set of Srixon Z785's with Modus 120X's and want to get an understanding of the profile a little better. It appears that the ball flight will be higher than the C Taper 130X's with higher spin as well? I hit my C Tapers fairly low with a propensity to pull it left.

> > > > >

> > > > > My fitter has requested that I get the Srixons bent 2* strong as well, so in your opinion do you think the ball flight will flatten out with the Modus 120X's? I'm not too worried about spin because that can be tweaked with a change in golf ball - likely going from a Snell MTB X to a MTB Black.

> > > > >

> > > > > Overall - are Modus 120's the lowest launching but medium spin option? I'm swinging my 7i 90 mph with a fairly smooth transition (I've worked significantly on my tempo of late) and do not want to see my ball go left? Is this the shaft for me?

> > > >

> > > > I think you may be better suited with the 125X that has more of DG X100 like profile.

> > >

> > > Interesting... I've never been a fan of the DG line for some reason. It's never matched my swing well so maybe the 120 loaded a little better for me? 120X seems to be the lowest launching in the Modus line, correct?

> >

> > No, at least not from my experience. The 125X feels more sturdy than the 120X to me and the 125X has a much lower launch and less spin. I think the 125X is a much closer comparison the C Taper 130X.

>

> Wow really? I had no idea. Everywhere I look I hear that 120 is lower launching than 125 & 130. I'll keep looking into it. Worst case scenario I bring it back to my fitter and swap out to something else.

 

I thought the modus 125x had the same profile as the modus 105x just heavier, which if that is true would make it a different profile than the ctaper130x?

[GolfNPizza2]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> > @Mattn1106 said:

> > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > @Putn4par1 said:

> > > > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > > > @Putn4par1 said:

> > > > > > > @jjmurry said:

> > > > > > > I've read something like 30 pages in this thread today and just wanted to get a final opinion regarding my recent purchase. I've been a long time C Taper 130X player, but I've realized that at this point I need something lighter and more friendly to swing. My fitter put me into a set of Srixon Z785's with Modus 120X's and want to get an understanding of the profile a little better. It appears that the ball flight will be higher than the C Taper 130X's with higher spin as well? I hit my C Tapers fairly low with a propensity to pull it left.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My fitter has requested that I get the Srixons bent 2* strong as well, so in your opinion do you think the ball flight will flatten out with the Modus 120X's? I'm not too worried about spin because that can be tweaked with a change in golf ball - likely going from a Snell MTB X to a MTB Black.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Overall - are Modus 120's the lowest launching but medium spin option? I'm swinging my 7i 90 mph with a fairly smooth transition (I've worked significantly on my tempo of late) and do not want to see my ball go left? Is this the shaft for me?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think you may be better suited with the 125X that has more of DG X100 like profile.

> > > > >

> > > > > Interesting... I've never been a fan of the DG line for some reason. It's never matched my swing well so maybe the 120 loaded a little better for me? 120X seems to be the lowest launching in the Modus line, correct?

> > > >

> > > > No, at least not from my experience. The 125X feels more sturdy than the 120X to me and the 125X has a much lower launch and less spin. I think the 125X is a much closer comparison the C Taper 130X.

> > >

> > > Wow really? I had no idea. Everywhere I look I hear that 120 is lower launching than 125 & 130. I'll keep looking into it. Worst case scenario I bring it back to my fitter and swap out to something else.

> >

> > I thought the modus 125x had the same profile as the modus 105x just heavier, which if that is true would make it a different profile than the ctaper130x?

>

> This is correct, but I was simply saying it is the lowest launching/spinning shaft of the bunch which would make it closest to the C-Taper 130X

 

At least i was right with the modus 105 to 125 comparison haha but sorry if i caused any confusion in regards to comparing to the c taper

[jjmurry]

> @Putn4par1 said:

>

>

> This was taken direct from Nippon's website.

>

 

Lol this is super helpful... basically 120's are a crapshoot. Great. I'm a sweeper and I've read that sweepers end up having issues with the 120's so I'm going to try to cancel the order and try again.

[AlohaJoe]

A lot of this isn't making sense to me - wanting 'easier to swing' so going lighter, but then wanting to swing slower? Those two are inversely proportional (swing speed vs weight).

 

If you like C-taper but want lighter, why not try C-taper Lite?

 

Project X might be another solution? For me, PX shafts launch slightly lower than Modus 105. I personally find that the overall feel of Modus 125 is similar to Project X, and I thought C-taper was supposed to have similar profile to Project X? So IDK where the 120 comes in to all of this, it just makes no sense - it's uniquely different than almost every other shaft.

[jjmurry]

> @AlohaJoe said:

> A lot of this isn't making sense to me - wanting 'easier to swing' so going lighter, but then wanting to swing slower? Those two are inversely proportional (swing speed vs weight).

>

> If you like C-taper but want lighter, why not try C-taper Lite?

>

> Project X might be another solution? For me, PX shafts launch slightly lower than Modus 105. I personally find that the overall feel of Modus 125 is similar to Project X, and I thought C-taper was supposed to have similar profile to Project X? So IDK where the 120 comes in to all of this, it just makes no sense - it's uniquely different than almost every other shaft.

 

Maybe my choice of words were wrong - I mean to swing smoother rather than slower. All my life until the last month or so I've been a quick aggressive tempo/transition in general. I have identified that I just need to fix that with my instructor. That being said, the C Tapers seem to not want to load properly for a smoother more deliberate swing. We'll find out how the 120X works.

[COmedic]

Hey guys, love the info on here. I recently purchased a set of Z785 irons and was fitted for DG AMT S300s. I got the clubs in and have had had major issues with drawing/ hooking on every swing. My previous clubs have been MP18s with PX LZ 6.5 ( a little stout and frequently ballooned), and MP32s with S300 shafts ( launched too high, felt like I left a lot of distance out there). My driver SS is 110, 7 iron 90 mph. I’m a sweeper by nature and occasionally release early. I’m between the Modus 120x, 125 (s or x) or 130s. Anybody else have issues with overdrawing irons that were straightened out by any of these shafts? I believe it’s an equipment issue more than a swing issue as I’ve never had more than a nice little baby draw on previous sets.