world Ranking points at Isleworth

[corky]

Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

 

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........

 

 

the rich get richer.......

[silliwilli]

Somebody let Augusta know...

[Golf Monkey]

[quote name='silliwilli' timestamp='1417531630' post='10530379']
Somebody let Augusta know...
[/quote]
[b] Qualifications for Masters Invitation[/b]
[color=#000000]


[list]
[*]Masters Tournament Champions (Lifetime)
[*]US Open Champions (Honorary, non-competing after 5 years)
[*]British Open Champions (Honorary, non-competing after 5 years)
[*]PGA Champions (Honorary, non-competing after 5 years)
[*]Winners of The Players Championship (Three years)
[*]Current US Amateur Champion (6-A) (Honorary, non-competing after 1 year) and the runner-up to the current US Amateur Champion
[*]Current British Amateur Champion (Honorary, non-competing after 1 year)
[*]Current Asian Amateur Champion
[*]Current US Amateur Public Links Champion
[*]Current US Mid-Amateur Champion
[*]The first 16 players, including ties, in the previous year's Masters Tournament
[*]The first 8 players, including ties, in the previous year's US Open Championship
[*]The first 4 players, including ties, in the previous year's British Open Championship
[*]The first 4 players, including ties, in the previous year's PGA Championship
[*]The 30 leaders on the Final Official PGA Tour Money List for the previous calendar year
[*]Winners of PGA Tour events that award a full-point allocation for the season-ending Tour Championship, from previous Masters to current Masters
[*]Those qualifying for the previous year's season-ending Tour Championship
[*]The 50 leaders on the Final Official World Golf Ranking for the previous calendar year
[*]The 50 leaders on the Official World Golf Ranking published during the week prior to the current Masters Tournament
[/list]
[b]Source[/b]: Augusta National Golf Club
[/color]

[Barto78]

Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?

[DavePelz4]

[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

Agree with you on the points being awarded. This event didn't have points associated until 2009 and it's done predominantly because of the strength of field. It's interesting though that this event gives more points to the winner (46) than last week's Australian Open which only had 34 with a much larger but weaker field on average. The strength of field this week is 275 while the SOF last week was only 175.

The Nedbank Challenge is also this week and it has 38 points available to the winner and has 14 of the top 50 in the field while the HC has all the players in the top 31.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

well if its any consolation, even if tiger wins, he won't become the #1 player in the world.

[thatboygaule]

There are points at the nedbank too right and you have nothing to say about that?

Just another Tiger hater here ^^

[drake47]

I guess the guys that didn't get invited need to get better so they are invited in the future.

[Edaw68]

I don't think points for a limited field event is bad, but limit the points available. 18 players vs 156 players, make it only 15 or 20% points available (adjusted up from the actual 11% since it is a strong field given it's size).

[Golf Monkey]

[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1417534655' post='10530679']
There are points at the nedbank too right and you have nothing to say about that?

Just another Tiger hater here ^^
[/quote]

...two wrongs don't make a right!

[kemau]

[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November

[tbowles411]

[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1417538644' post='10531041']
[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
[/quote]
I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.

[golfortennis]

[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417533892' post='10530587']
Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?
[/quote]

Well hold on a second. All we hear about is how Woods' 14 are better than Nicklaus' 18 because of depth of field. The fact that Woods never had a Watson, Trevino, Player to have to compete against is supposedly null and void because "any guy can win out there today." But now, the fact that there are top players, but only 30 of them, makes it stronger than a full field event? Are you guys Tiger Woods lovers, or politicians? Talking out of both sides of your mouths.

Shouldn't be points in Sun City, and there shouldn't be points at this. It's the silly season for a reason.

[kemau]

[quote name='Bluefan75' timestamp='1417540918' post='10531205']
[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417533892' post='10530587']
Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?
[/quote]

Well hold on a second. All we hear about is how Woods' 14 are better than Nicklaus' 18 because of depth of field. The fact that Woods never had a Watson, Trevino, Player to have to compete against is supposedly null and void because "any guy can win out there today." But now, the fact that there are top players, but only 30 of them, makes it stronger than a full field event? Are you guys Tiger Woods lovers, or politicians? Talking out of both sides of your mouths.

[b]Shouldn't be points in Sun City, [/b]and there shouldn't be points at this. [b]It's the silly season for a reason.[/b]
[/quote]

just as long as you know nedbank became an official european tour event on their schedule last year

"The Nedbank Golf Challenge became part of The European Tour International Schedule for the first time for the 2014 season and will be the opening event of the 2015 European Tour season."

[Golfnutgalen]

Feinstein said the same, that any limited field no cut event shouldn't award OWGR points. Personally, I think that's baloney and has simply been used to discredit Tiger's amazing record in the WGCs. That said, even I agree that the Hero World Challenge event gives out too many points, lower it down to 20 to the winner or less, not the current bloated 46 or so.

[Barto78]

[quote name='Bluefan75' timestamp='1417540918' post='10531205']
[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417533892' post='10530587']
Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?
[/quote]

Well hold on a second. All we hear about is how Woods' 14 are better than Nicklaus' 18 because of depth of field. The fact that Woods never had a Watson, Trevino, Player to have to compete against is supposedly null and void because "any guy can win out there today." But now, the fact that there are top players, but only 30 of them, makes it stronger than a full field event? Are you guys Tiger Woods lovers, or politicians? Talking out of both sides of your mouths.

Shouldn't be points in Sun City, and there shouldn't be points at this. It's the silly season for a reason.
[/quote]

So much fail in this post. How you draw a conclusion to field strength back in Jack's day compared to Tiger's day based off my comment on field strength for this event compared to last week's event is comical.

Go back and look at the field last week in Australia. Besides Speith, Scott and Rory, there weren't that many top players in the field. Maybe Geoff Ogilvy, John Senden and Brenden DeJonge could be included in that list, but that's a stretch. For heavens sakes you had Amateurs contending last week near the top of the leader board.

Here are the final results from last week. I ask you to click the link and peruse the results and see the quality of the field that was in Australia last week.

[url="http://www.golfchannel.com/tours/australasian-tour/2014/emirates-australian-open/"]http://www.golfchannel.com/tours/australasian-tour/2014/emirates-australian-open/[/url]

Meanwhile here is the list of the guys in Tiger's event:[list]
[*]Zach Johnson
[*]Hunter Mahan
[*]Matt Kuchar
[*]Graeme McDowell
[*]Steve Stricker
[*]Keegan Bradley
[*]Billy Horschel
[*]Chris Kirk
[*]Tiger Woods
[*]Jason Day
[*]Bubba Watson
[*]Rickie Fowler
[*]Jordan Speith
[*]Patrick Reed
[*]Henrick Stenson
[*]Justin Rose
[/list]
The defense rests your honor.

[tbowles411]

[quote name='Golfnutgalen' timestamp='1417541389' post='10531259']
Feinstein said the same, that any limited field no cut event shouldn't award OWGR points. Personally, I think that's baloney and has simply been used to discredit Tiger's amazing record in the WGCs. That said, even I agree that the Hero World Challenge event gives out too many points, lower it down to 20 to the winner or less, not the current bloated 46 or so.
[/quote]
I agreed with Feinstein on something? Now I feel nauseous...

[DavePelz4]

[quote name='Bluefan75' timestamp='1417540918' post='10531205']
[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417533892' post='10530587']
Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?
[/quote]

Well hold on a second. All we hear about is how Woods' 14 are better than Nicklaus' 18 because of depth of field. The fact that Woods never had a Watson, Trevino, Player to have to compete against is supposedly null and void because "any guy can win out there today." But now, the fact that there are top players, but only 30 of them, makes it stronger than a full field event? Are you guys Tiger Woods lovers, or politicians? Talking out of both sides of your mouths.

Shouldn't be points in Sun City, and there shouldn't be points at this. It's the silly season for a reason.
[/quote]

There are only 18 in the field.

[2putttom]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1417538935' post='10531057']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1417538644' post='10531041']
[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
[/quote]
I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.
[/quote] I agree. The limited field of players with no cuts should'nt be awarded points.

[Barto78]

[quote name='2putttom' timestamp='1417541748' post='10531293']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1417538935' post='10531057']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1417538644' post='10531041']
[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
[/quote]
I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.
[/quote] I agree. The limited field of players with no cuts should'nt be awarded points.
[/quote]

So WGC Firestone shouldn't award points. The Tour Championship either?

Interesting.......

[Frankensteins Monster]

[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1417538935' post='10531057']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1417538644' post='10531041']
[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
[/quote]
I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.
[/quote]
WGC events am cry.

[Shilgy]

[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417541938' post='10531313']
[quote name='2putttom' timestamp='1417541748' post='10531293']
[quote name='tbowles411' timestamp='1417538935' post='10531057']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1417538644' post='10531041']
[quote name='corky' timestamp='1417531250' post='10530345']
Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
[/quote]

play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
[/quote]
I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.
[/quote] I agree. The limited field of players with no cuts should'nt be awarded points.
[/quote]

So WGC Firestone shouldn't award points. The Tour Championship either?

Interesting.......
[/quote]or the Masters, or any of the invitationals. Memorial, Colonial. The ranking points issue in small field events has nothing to do with Jack vs Tiger and 14 to 18. This is an elite off season event that awards some points based on the field. Will not show as a PGA tour win and certainly not a major win. On the other hand I am sure Jack won some events that had fewer quality opponents in it than does the Hero Challenge!

[DavePelz4]

There are 7 no-cut events on the PGA Tour if you include the Match Play event at Harding Park. With the new format everyone will play a minimum of 3 matches and get paid out. Last year it was $48,000 for being in the match play event at Dove Mtn.

[KYMAR]

So now tigers silly season event is being being given equal weight to WGC's?

The defenders of the gaudy amount of points being handed out have asserted that objecting to it, of course, = Tiger "hate". I think we've seen enough from these usual suspects to justify a counter argument that their undying love and admiration prevents them from reasonably considering basic facts and determine in an unbiased way that, were this hosted by ANY other player, 46 Points would have them screaming "thats ridiculous"

[Barto78]

[quote name='KYMAR' timestamp='1417543638' post='10531521']
So now tigers silly season event is being being given equal weight to WGC's?

The defenders of the gaudy amount of points being handed out have asserted that objecting to it, of course, = Tiger "hate". I think we've seen enough from these usual suspects to justify a counter argument that their undying love and admiration prevents them from reasonably considering basic facts and determine in an unbiased way that, were this hosted by ANY other player, 46 Points would have them screaming "thats ridiculous"
[/quote]

WGC Events give out 100 points, so i'm now sure how you draw the conclusion of a silly season event being given "equal weight"

Your next point is.......?

[kemau]

tim and the pga tour make the decisions. but its tigers fault...for all of the no cut, invitational and limited field events that have been played since the 1930s. and shame on augusta for ruining the game too

[bscinstnct]

Tigers tournament should have 500 points.

 

[golfortennis]

[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417541446' post='10531265']
[quote name='Bluefan75' timestamp='1417540918' post='10531205']
[quote name='Barto78' timestamp='1417533892' post='10530587']
Ahhh....The Tiger haters are back out in full force i see. Complaining about RR points. This field is stronger than the Australian Masters last week and doesn't give an automatic invite to the British Open. Where was the outrage last week?
[/quote]

Well hold on a second. All we hear about is how Woods' 14 are better than Nicklaus' 18 because of depth of field. The fact that Woods never had a Watson, Trevino, Player to have to compete against is supposedly null and void because "any guy can win out there today." But now, the fact that there are top players, but only 30 of them, makes it stronger than a full field event? Are you guys Tiger Woods lovers, or politicians? Talking out of both sides of your mouths.

Shouldn't be points in Sun City, and there shouldn't be points at this. It's the silly season for a reason.
[/quote]

So much fail in this post. How you draw a conclusion to field strength back in Jack's day compared to Tiger's day based off my comment on field strength for this event compared to last week's event is comical.

Go back and look at the field last week in Australia. Besides Speith, Scott and Rory, there weren't that many top players in the field. Maybe Geoff Ogilvy, John Senden and Brenden DeJonge could be included in that list, but that's a stretch. For heavens sakes you had Amateurs contending last week near the top of the leader board.

Here are the final results from last week. I ask you to click the link and peruse the results and see the quality of the field that was in Australia last week.

[url="http://www.golfchannel.com/tours/australasian-tour/2014/emirates-australian-open/"]http://www.golfchann...ustralian-open/[/url]

Meanwhile here is the list of the guys in Tiger's event:[list]
[*]Zach Johnson
[*]Hunter Mahan
[*]Matt Kuchar
[*]Graeme McDowell
[*]Steve Stricker
[*]Keegan Bradley
[*]Billy Horschel
[*]Chris Kirk
[*]Tiger Woods
[*]Jason Day
[*]Bubba Watson
[*]Rickie Fowler
[*]Jordan Speith
[*]Patrick Reed
[*]Henrick Stenson
[*]Justin Rose
[/list]
The defense rests your honor.
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When it's convenient, amateurs contending represent "just how many good players there are", and when it's not.... I seem to recall one of the guys on your list finishing 4th as an amateur at the Open championship. So that must have been a crappy event that year.

Either there are so many guys out there who can play today that it's tougher to win, which means winning an event with a 156 players is much tougher than winning one with 18, or the quality of the top players in a field trumps the numbers. The Woods fanboys have used the first argument all these years in order to prop up 14 vs 18. If that's the argument that will be used, then fine, just don't then turn around and say a field with 18 players, regardless of who they are, is better than a field of 156.

[hogans71]

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Who decides that this tournament is eligible for world ranking points...???

It's a limited field with no cut,,,,,, totally unfair to the rest of the uninvited players........


the rich get richer.......
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play better and earn your spoils….open to everyone via the means described below

[b][u]HERO WORLD CHALLENGE FIELD[/u][/b]

"Our field of 18 elite PGA TOUR players is determined as follows: the current four major winners, the top 11 available from the Official World Golf Ranking, the defending champion and two special-exemption players."

[b][u]Nedbank Golf Challenge Eligibility Criteria for 2014[/u][/b]

"The eligibility criteria for a place in one of the most sought-after fields in world golf has been extended to ensure the 2014 Nedbank Golf Challenge will be amongst the most globally represented tournaments in the history of South African golf. Closing date for qualification: Thursday 20 November 2014 (Two weeks prior to the tournament)

(a) Defending Champion. (b) The winner of the 2013 Sunshine Tour Official Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a). © The winner of the 2013 Asian Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b). (d) The winner of the 2013 Japan Golf Tour Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©. (e) The winner of the 2013 PGA Tour of Australasia’s Order of Merit, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d). (f) The top 10 available players from the Official World Golf Ranking on the Monday after the 2014 US PGA Championship (Monday 11 August), if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e). (g) The top 10 available players in the top 30 of the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt through (a), (b), ©, (d), (e), (f). (h) There will be a maximum of 5 South African players in the field. If at the conclusion of the 2014 Race to Dubai there are less than 5 South African players that have qualified through (a) to (g) combined, then the difference will be made up from the next highest ranked South Africans on the Official World Golf Ranking as of Monday 24 November. (i) If additional players are required to fill the field to 30 players, these will be selected in the following order: (1) The winner of the 2014 Cape Town Open, if not already exempt. (2) The number one player on the Sunshine Tour Order of Merit on Monday 24 November, if not already exempt. (3) Players not already exempt and in order of ranking on the final 2014 Race to Dubai on Monday 24 November
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I get why then do it, but I don't like points for no cut events, personally.
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Totally agree. All of them. Just personal preference.

[Barto78]

I seem to recall Jack saying he could basically mark off every player in a field and get the # down to about 10-15 guys he had to actually beat each week. Those fields were 156 man fields as far as i know.

Perhaps someone who has a better memory or knows the actual quote can find it for us. Also, my sincere apologies if i am way off base w/ my recollection of the quote.