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Been scoring in the low 70s for some time, but I had never broke 70 before. Today was the day that I finally did at Klein Creek. My putter had been hot for some time and it came through for me to get

I played the Preserve at noon on the 4th. The course is in great shape. I played really well on the front, 37. Then lost three balls on the back to shoot 46, ouch. They have to add some water coolers

... Grabbed a Golfnow tee time for Settlers Hill and playing with my son today. Have not played there in quite a few years and hopefully the heavy rain drains well on an old landfill.

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Yesterday's rounds at Washington County, Mascoutin, and Lawsonia were outstanding. Washington County was great, as always. It's one of my favorite layouts and the conditioning was very strong. We got there about 10 minutes before our 5:45 tee time and were the first people on the course. There was a lot of dew but the greens were still rolling at a pretty quick pace. The rough was very thick, but that's always the case there. The dew was removed by the ninth hole and we were able to finish before the rain came. 77.

 

Mascoutin was great, and the new Jacobsen-designed Blue nine was especially good. We decided to go out despite the rain still falling but it was over by the fourth hole. After limping to a front 9 40, scoring-wise the highlight of the day was shooting a -1 35 on the Blue course with a birdie on 14. I bought a new 917 5 wood and, once I got past looking down at the absurdly huge head, I learned it's an absolute cannon off the tee. It's made my 915f 3 wood useless since it goes the same distance.

 

Lawsonia had an outing moved from the Woodlands course to the Links because the outing didn't want to deal with it being cart path only on Woods. However, there was a gap in the outing on the first hole so we were able to slide in. The assistant pro was really cordial and professional and provided us with a preview of where to aim off the tee on the second hole. The first three holes were pretty underwhelming but the course quality picked up significantly, I was very impressed, and I'll definitely be back. I have a thing for courses that use trees to frame the greens, and Lawsonia provided that for me. Once the outing ended after the 8th hole, we had the course to ourselves for the remainder of the round. 77.

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Yesterday's rounds at Washington County, Mascoutin, and Lawsonia were outstanding. Washington County was great, as always. It's one of my favorite layouts and the conditioning was very strong. We got there about 10 minutes before our 5:45 tee time and were the first people on the course. There was a lot of dew but the greens were still rolling at a pretty quick pace. The rough was very thick, but that's always the case there. The dew was removed by the ninth hole and we were able to finish before the rain came. 77.

 

Mascoutin was great, and the new Jacobsen-designed Blue nine was especially good. We decided to go out despite the rain still falling but it was over by the fourth hole. After limping to a front 9 40, scoring-wise the highlight of the day was shooting a -1 35 on the Blue course with a birdie on 14. I bought a new 917 5 wood and, once I got past looking down at the absurdly huge head, I learned it's an absolute cannon off the tee. It's made my 915f 3 wood useless since it goes the same distance.

 

Lawsonia had an outing moved from the Woodlands course to the Links because the outing didn't want to deal with it being cart path only on Woods. However, there was a gap in the outing on the first hole so we were able to slide in. The assistant pro was really cordial and professional and provided us with a preview of where to aim off the tee on the second hole. The first three holes were pretty underwhelming but the course quality picked up significantly, I was very impressed, and I'll definitely be back. I have a thing for courses that use trees to frame the greens, and Lawsonia provided that for me. Once the outing ended after the 8th hole, we had the course to ourselves for the remainder of the round. 77.

 

Glad you enjoyed Lawsonia Links. Hopefully when you play it again it will be in dry conditions so you can experience the course in its best conditions with lots of roll in the fairways and greens so firm you can't find a ballmark the entire round.

 

Love the Blue 9 at Mascoutin, some really fun holes. Especially #2 with the totally blind downhill approach shot.

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A few details on the new Jackson Park/South Shore renovation: http://www.chicagotr...621-column.html

 

The 13th would be pretty cool from the back tees. It looks like this would start from a clean slate, not that any existing holes could be salvaged.

 

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Brother and I got out with the old man as a late Father's Day round and got in all of three holes before lighting at Bolingbrook yesterday, ended up with a rain check. A couple miles north or south and the storm system would have missed us, ugh. And if anyone is interested Fresh Meadow has brand spanking new mats, really nice in my opinion, and I'm not sure but it looks like they might be switching to Srixon range balls as they have a bunch of big Srixon boxes in the range office (could just be retail balls I couldn't tell and the lady at the desk wasn't sure)

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A few details on the new Jackson Park/South Shore renovation: http://www.chicagotr...621-column.html

 

The 13th would be pretty cool from the back tees. It looks like this would start from a clean slate, not that any existing holes could be salvaged.

 

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It'll be a pretty cool course given the lake/skyline ect, but I am wondering why it wasn't routed to try and finish up along the lake instead of inland. It'll be interesting to see what this ends up being.

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36 at Itasca CC Thursday if the daughter isn't sick...

 

And if she is sick 54?

 

Trying to get the wife to take a day off tomorrow, haha.

And if she does, 54 with a bottle of Bulleit Rye...

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A few details on the new Jackson Park/South Shore renovation: http://www.chicagotr...621-column.html

 

The 13th would be pretty cool from the back tees. It looks like this would start from a clean slate, not that any existing holes could be salvaged.

 

 

7,354-yard, par-70 course that combines the South Shore course with the Jackson Park course

 

 

It'll be a pretty cool course given the lake/skyline ect, but I am wondering why it wasn't routed to try and finish up along the lake instead of inland. It'll be interesting to see what this ends up being.

 

I would guess there were constraints on where the clubhouse and parking had to go. Forcing the start and finish to be up on the north side of the property. I think they have to keep the cultural center in tact, so there might not have been any options to start and finish on the south side of the property.

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A few details on the new Jackson Park/South Shore renovation: http://www.chicagotr...621-column.html

 

The 13th would be pretty cool from the back tees. It looks like this would start from a clean slate, not that any existing holes could be salvaged.

 

7,354-yard, par-70 course that combines the South Shore course with the Jackson Park course

 

 

It'll be a pretty cool course given the lake/skyline ect, but I am wondering why it wasn't routed to try and finish up along the lake instead of inland. It'll be interesting to see what this ends up being.

 

Not much land available along the lake. The La Rabida Children's Hospital is located on the peninsula near the entrance to the harbor. I believe the South Shore Culture Center is a protected building, so that has to stay. I guess they could have used the land where the 13th and 14th would sit. but then there would be room for a 1st and 18th hole.

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A few details on the new Jackson Park/South Shore renovation: http://www.chicagotr...621-column.html

 

The 13th would be pretty cool from the back tees. It looks like this would start from a clean slate, not that any existing holes could be salvaged.

 

7,354-yard, par-70 course that combines the South Shore course with the Jackson Park course

 

 

It'll be a pretty cool course given the lake/skyline ect, but I am wondering why it wasn't routed to try and finish up along the lake instead of inland. It'll be interesting to see what this ends up being.

 

Not much land available along the lake. The La Rabida Children's Hospital is located on the peninsula near the entrance to the harbor. I believe the South Shore Culture Center is a protected building, so that has to stay. I guess they could have used the land where the 13th and 14th would sit. but then there would be room for a 1st and 18th hole.

 

Makes more sense, I've never been on the land down there so I really don't know what the options are/were.

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...After playing Settlers Hill I remembered why I don't play there. Greens were quite fast and with the insane undulations they were almost impossible with the pin placements. #12 top right and anything near it just rolled away. My son was on the bottom tier, put it above the hole and it rolled about 15 feet down the side. Putted to about 3" right of the hole and it stopped, then starting back down to where he just putted from. Two more putts did the same thing. Several pins were searched right at a slope and several ON a severe slope. Just too silly for me. 15 greens in regulation and only 3 birdies. They have some fun and beautiful holes but I won't be going back.

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...After playing Settlers Hill I remembered why I don't play there. Greens were quite fast and with the insane undulations they were almost impossible with the pin placements. #12 top right and anything near it just rolled away. My son was on the bottom tier, put it above the hole and it rolled about 15 feet down the side. Putted to about 3" right of the hole and it stopped, then starting back down to where he just putted from. Two more putts did the same thing. Several pins were searched right at a slope and several ON a severe slope. Just too silly for me. 15 greens in regulation and only 3 birdies. They have some fun and beautiful holes but I won't be going back.

Was the course water logged? In my experience Settler's Hill doesn't drain well and even stays soggy after they water it in the mornings.

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...After playing Settlers Hill I remembered why I don't play there. Greens were quite fast and with the insane undulations they were almost impossible with the pin placements. #12 top right and anything near it just rolled away. My son was on the bottom tier, put it above the hole and it rolled about 15 feet down the side. Putted to about 3" right of the hole and it stopped, then starting back down to where he just putted from. Two more putts did the same thing. Several pins were searched right at a slope and several ON a severe slope. Just too silly for me. 15 greens in regulation and only 3 birdies. They have some fun and beautiful holes but I won't be going back.

 

Was the course water logged? In my experience Settler's Hill doesn't drain well and even stays soggy after they water it in the mornings.

 

... It was surprisingly OK with a few soaked spots but there were only a few. I can't complain about the condition and as I said the greens were rolling fast and true, just so much undulation and really bad pin placements that made scoring difficult to impossible. You could see pin placements near where they were placed so it was;t a bad day for the grounds crew, but looked like their norm. I hate hitting really good shots and having very little chance for a birdie and really having to grind to save par when you hit the green in regulation. I am talking 10-20 feet not 40+ feet away from the hole.

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Played 9 holes at Big Run today. Good condition, but can honestly say, maybe the worst layout I have ever played. What a stupid course.

 

That must be another Big Run he's talking about. I'm just going to pretend I didn't read this thing. :nono:

 

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I've been excited about the new course on Jackson Park/South Shore, but I'm kinda bummed to hear 5 par 3's.

 

It could be worse I guess. Willow Crest GC has 6 par 3's.

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I've been excited about the new course on Jackson Park/South Shore, but I'm kinda bummed to hear 5 par 3's.

 

It could be worse I guess. Willow Crest GC has 6 par 3's.

 

One of the reasons I don't really like Thunderhawk is three par 3, par 4 and par 5's on the back.

 

 

One of the quirks about Lawsonia is that starting on hole #9 the course goes par 5, par 3, par 5, par 3, par 5, par 3 before finishing with 3 par 4s and then a par 5.

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Anybody play Carriage Greens in Darien recently? I played it ages ago, and don't remember a whole lot about it other than it's a rather forgetable layout. The teesheet for Saturday has one foursome booked from 6 am until 10:30 am. That should tell me something I guess.

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Anybody play Carriage Greens in Darien recently? I played it ages ago, and don't remember a whole lot about it other than it's a rather forgetable layout. The teesheet for Saturday has one foursome booked from 6 am until 10:30 am. That should tell me something I guess.

 

It's entirely forgettable. In the past it's been a complete dump, shag greens and hardly cut fairways. There was some talk within the last year or two that they'd cleaned it up, but I've got a hard time believing that. Even if it is well conditioned it's a pass IMO.

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Played 9 holes at Big Run today. Good condition, but can honestly say, maybe the worst layout I have ever played. What a stupid course.

 

That must be another Big Run he's talking about. I'm just going to pretend I didn't read this thing. :nono:

 

... MCi711 is not alone. One of my least favorite courses as well. There are some nice holes no doubt, but also some really, really silly holes. I am not a fan of blind shots for no reason. I like to walk and it is also a tough walking course. I have found most either love or hate Big Run.

 

I just didn't get it. I wanted to love it. I almost had an ace on the short par 3 road hole, The greens and tee boxes were in great shape.. It just doesn't make sense why anyone would route a course like that.

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Yesterday's rounds at Washington County, Mascoutin, and Lawsonia were outstanding. Washington County was great, as always. It's one of my favorite layouts and the conditioning was very strong. We got there about 10 minutes before our 5:45 tee time and were the first people on the course. There was a lot of dew but the greens were still rolling at a pretty quick pace. The rough was very thick, but that's always the case there. The dew was removed by the ninth hole and we were able to finish before the rain came. 77.

 

Mascoutin was great, and the new Jacobsen-designed Blue nine was especially good. We decided to go out despite the rain still falling but it was over by the fourth hole. After limping to a front 9 40, scoring-wise the highlight of the day was shooting a -1 35 on the Blue course with a birdie on 14. I bought a new 917 5 wood and, once I got past looking down at the absurdly huge head, I learned it's an absolute cannon off the tee. It's made my 915f 3 wood useless since it goes the same distance.

 

Lawsonia had an outing moved from the Woodlands course to the Links because the outing didn't want to deal with it being cart path only on Woods. However, there was a gap in the outing on the first hole so we were able to slide in. The assistant pro was really cordial and professional and provided us with a preview of where to aim off the tee on the second hole. The first three holes were pretty underwhelming but the course quality picked up significantly, I was very impressed, and I'll definitely be back. I have a thing for courses that use trees to frame the greens, and Lawsonia provided that for me. Once the outing ended after the 8th hole, we had the course to ourselves for the remainder of the round. 77.

 

Glad you enjoyed Lawsonia Links. Hopefully when you play it again it will be in dry conditions so you can experience the course in its best conditions with lots of roll in the fairways and greens so firm you can't find a ballmark the entire round.

 

Love the Blue 9 at Mascoutin, some really fun holes. Especially #2 with the totally blind downhill approach shot.

 

I will definitely play Lawsonia again. It was my first time up there as well. Would love play it while fast and firm. My iron play was very spotty during the round and I got myself in entirely too much trouble missing left and right of those greens.

 

I was very impressed by Mascoutin as well. I love Rick Jacobson designs, so I knew the Blue 9 would be good. But, I like the 9 we played on the White course as well. Very solid traditional parkland layout and I thought #9 was a really good hole. Also, the greens at Mascoutin were terrific. Super smooth, not a ball-mark on them, running at a good pace even during the rain.

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Yesterday's rounds at Washington County, Mascoutin, and Lawsonia were outstanding. Washington County was great, as always. It's one of my favorite layouts and the conditioning was very strong. We got there about 10 minutes before our 5:45 tee time and were the first people on the course. There was a lot of dew but the greens were still rolling at a pretty quick pace. The rough was very thick, but that's always the case there. The dew was removed by the ninth hole and we were able to finish before the rain came. 77.

 

Mascoutin was great, and the new Jacobsen-designed Blue nine was especially good. We decided to go out despite the rain still falling but it was over by the fourth hole. After limping to a front 9 40, scoring-wise the highlight of the day was shooting a -1 35 on the Blue course with a birdie on 14. I bought a new 917 5 wood and, once I got past looking down at the absurdly huge head, I learned it's an absolute cannon off the tee. It's made my 915f 3 wood useless since it goes the same distance.

 

Lawsonia had an outing moved from the Woodlands course to the Links because the outing didn't want to deal with it being cart path only on Woods. However, there was a gap in the outing on the first hole so we were able to slide in. The assistant pro was really cordial and professional and provided us with a preview of where to aim off the tee on the second hole. The first three holes were pretty underwhelming but the course quality picked up significantly, I was very impressed, and I'll definitely be back. I have a thing for courses that use trees to frame the greens, and Lawsonia provided that for me. Once the outing ended after the 8th hole, we had the course to ourselves for the remainder of the round. 77.

 

Glad you enjoyed Lawsonia Links. Hopefully when you play it again it will be in dry conditions so you can experience the course in its best conditions with lots of roll in the fairways and greens so firm you can't find a ballmark the entire round.

 

Love the Blue 9 at Mascoutin, some really fun holes. Especially #2 with the totally blind downhill approach shot.

 

I will definitely play Lawsonia again. It was my first time up there as well. Would love play it while fast and firm. My iron play was very spotty during the round and I got myself in entirely too much trouble missing left and right of those greens.

 

I was very impressed by Mascoutin as well. I love Rick Jacobson designs, so I knew the Blue 9 would be good. But, I like the 9 we played on the White course as well. Very solid traditional parkland layout and I thought #9 was a really good hole. Also, the greens at Mascoutin were terrific. Super smooth, not a ball-mark on them, running at a good pace even during the rain.

 

 

yea at Lawsonia there is big trouble left right and long on just about every green. I always try to play my shots so the miss is short. That's why its great to play when its firm and fast cause there are a lot of holes where you can run it up to the green.

 

One of the rights of passage at Lawsonia is getting to play "tennis" where you miss left or right and then end up playing tennis with your ball as it goes up and over the other side a few times till you pick up and move to the next tee. This is especially true on #7, the signature boxcar green par 3 with 20 foot sheer cliff drop offs on all sides. Last month they had a high school tournament and a kid scored a 22 on that hole with no penalty strokes.

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      Adam Svensson with new model of Puma golf shoes - 2021 Wichita Open (Korn Ferry)
       


       
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      Adam Svensson with new model of Puma golf shoes - 2021 Wichita Open (Korn Ferry)
       

       
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