True Temper X7

[jdave222]

These things look amazing. As long as I can soft step them they will be in my bag for sure

[KPH808]

I can't go through 10 pages of this thread - does any OEM offer these shafts as an option? I know Mizuno doesn't because I asked the rep. Any OEM at all?

 

Titleist offered them as an exotic option, took almost 3 weeks.

[stage1350]

All I know is my Nippon journey has been less than exciting since I have tried to replace X7. 120TX, not even close. SPB, good as an x-100 replacement, but not X7. 130X, launch too high. 2S14 launched higher and didn't feel nearly as good. C10 is the last hope for them. Otherwise, I'm going right back to where I have been for the last 10+ years: DG Tour X7

[gioguy21]

they're offered as an upcharge shaft for Ping --

[markjinc]

I'd have to imagine most oems will offer these by 2017. Hopefully in time for new irons for 2017 for me.

[markheardjr]

All I know is my Nippon journey has been less than exciting since I have tried to replace X7. 120TX, not even close. SPB, good as an x-100 replacement, but not X7. 130X, launch too high. 2S14 launched higher and didn't feel nearly as good. C10 is the last hope for them. Otherwise, I'm going right back to where I have been for the last 10+ years: DG Tour X7

 

C10 is less beefy than 2S14 so I'm guessing you won't be happy with those either.

[TTT]

I can't go through 10 pages of this thread - does any OEM offer these shafts as an option? I know Mizuno doesn't because I asked the rep. Any OEM at all?

 

Titleist offered them as an exotic option, took almost 3 weeks.

 

 

good friend of mine just tried ordering 716 CB's with X7's a week or two ago, they quoted him end of october delivery time so he just ordered them with X1 and ordered X7's direct from TT and will reshaft

[KPH808]

I can't go through 10 pages of this thread - does any OEM offer these shafts as an option? I know Mizuno doesn't because I asked the rep. Any OEM at all?

 

Titleist offered them as an exotic option, took almost 3 weeks.

 

 

good friend of mine just tried ordering 716 CB's with X7's a week or two ago, they quoted him end of october delivery time so he just ordered them with X1 and ordered X7's direct from TT and will reshaft

 

Wow, end of October?? I wouldn't be able to wait that long either.

[markjinc]

Again, I don't have any insight, but I'm guessing manufacturers are going to wise up and make this an option fairly soon.

[stage1350]

Again, I don't have any insight, but I'm guessing manufacturers are going to wise up and make this an option fairly soon.

 

Doubtful. Outside of this group, there are few that will play those shafts. They could keep a set of shafts in stock and probably get 1 order every other year for them. Most will buy them aftermarket and install themselves rather than oder them from the OEM,

[PCH]

With the increased butt diameter and different kick point, how do these SW in relation to X100 or KBS Tour?

[fjk]

Anyone wonder why x100 has such a bigger presence on tour? x7 is practically nonexistent.

[BearQ]

Anyone wonder why x100 has such a bigger presence on tour? x7 is practically nonexistent.

 

Guys technique/mechanics and attack angle are so sound they don't need super low launch or spin. They play tree lined, tucked pins over water type courses, you need to manevour the ball like crazy at times. X7 is 'designed' for beasts, not everyone on tour swings that hard. I know some guys on here play them and say they are very playable to other comparable shafts. I still think they'd be tough to load at 7 in the morning with a few layers on. X100 is a middle ground shaft that gives those guys enough of what they need. Personally I think something in between an x100 and x7 would be a winner, even a 125g x7. My thoughts

[KirkNo-yes]

Anyone wonder why x100 has such a bigger presence on tour? x7 is practically nonexistent.

 

It's pretty simple actually. Guys on tour are willing to try shafts and experiment with the driver but very few change iron shafts. Most if not all of these guys have played the same shaft since college or even junior golf. They aren't concerned with distance in their irons, they want accuracy. While I love my X7's I am not even NEAR having the ability to use these straight in. Very Very few guys are. I had them soft stepped twice and LOVE them. The kickpoint makes them less diggier than X-100's. My swing speed and all carry distances are dead on the pga tour avg. (wish my ability to score was.hahaha). My point is Most of these guys just aren't hitting it hard enough to load it . Also very few guys on tour know about these shafts. seriously. they don't. As much as most everyone on here wants to believe pga tour players are like us they are not. most guys don't get geeked out about stuff like us.

[KirkNo-yes]

With the increased butt diameter and different kick point, how do these SW in relation to X100 or KBS Tour?

 

It comes out slightly higher by maybe 1 point if any.

[drbonesvt]

All I know is my Nippon journey has been less than exciting since I have tried to replace X7. 120TX, not even close. SPB, good as an x-100 replacement, but not X7. 130X, launch too high. 2S14 launched higher and didn't feel nearly as good. C10 is the last hope for them. Otherwise, I'm going right back to where I have been for the last 10+ years: DG Tour X7

 

Brad you probably have the answer already, but they are on the Titleist shaft chart

[Komarms]

Still have a set of pulls in my basement. Barely used, if anyone is interested in them send me a PM

[PCH]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

[BearQ]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Don't go that route dude, don't even ask! Play them straight in or soft step

[PixlPutterman]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Dont ask that, the golf intra-multi-verse will implode.

[CallawayLefty]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Just looked at your swing in your WITB thread. It's a fine move, but surely you're just asking this question out of pure speculation and not because you actually think you need it, right? I was expecting to see Jamie Sadlowski Jr. You appear to be more in the soft step category, if anything. Again, nothing wrong with your swing, but you don't need a hardstepped X7, as should be obvious.

[PCH]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Just looked at your swing in your WITB thread. It's a fine move, but surely you're just asking this question out of pure speculation and not because you actually think you need it, right? I was expecting to see Jamie Sadlowski Jr. You appear to be more in the soft step category, if anything. Again, nothing wrong with your swing, but you don't need a hardstepped X7, as should be obvious.

 

If you're referring to my swing when I was 15 years old, no I probably would not need an X7 hardstepped. Now? Might be an interesting option and something I am curious to know if anyone has tried.

[CallawayLefty]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Just looked at your swing in your WITB thread. It's a fine move, but surely you're just asking this question out of pure speculation and not because you actually think you need it, right? I was expecting to see Jamie Sadlowski Jr. You appear to be more in the soft step category, if anything. Again, nothing wrong with your swing, but you don't need a hardstepped X7, as should be obvious.

 

If you're referring to my swing when I was 15 years old, no I probably would not need an X7 hardstepped. Now? Might be an interesting option and something I am curious to know if anyone has tried.

 

I did see it was old and that you were young so I'm sure you've improved. That said, unless you picked up a minimum of about 20 mph it's a non issue. It's not meant to be a swipe at you. It's just encouragement to do a little reality check. You clearly have a nice move but also clearly don't need hard stepped x7s. I say that quite confidently without even seeing a recent swing video. Post something showing me you swing 135 and I'll retract.

[PCH]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Just looked at your swing in your WITB thread. It's a fine move, but surely you're just asking this question out of pure speculation and not because you actually think you need it, right? I was expecting to see Jamie Sadlowski Jr. You appear to be more in the soft step category, if anything. Again, nothing wrong with your swing, but you don't need a hardstepped X7, as should be obvious.

 

If you're referring to my swing when I was 15 years old, no I probably would not need an X7 hardstepped. Now? Might be an interesting option and something I am curious to know if anyone has tried.

 

I did see it was old and that you were young so I'm sure you've improved. That said, unless you picked up a minimum of about 20 mph it's a non issue. It's not meant to be a swipe at you. It's just encouragement to do a little reality check. You clearly have a nice move but also clearly don't need hard stepped x7s. I say that quite confidently without even seeing a recent swing video. Post something showing me you swing 135 and I'll retract.

 

I totally agree with your point and I'm not offended at all, that being said I was mostly just curious if anyone had any input on the matter or knew how it would affect the shafts. Not saying it's what I need or what I'm going to play, but I think it could work fine and imagined somebody on here must have tried it.

 

Does 130 practice speed count? 135 was easier when he wasn't holding my legs.

 

[CallawayLefty]

Just ordered my set. Out of curiosity, anybody tried these hardstepped?

 

Just looked at your swing in your WITB thread. It's a fine move, but surely you're just asking this question out of pure speculation and not because you actually think you need it, right? I was expecting to see Jamie Sadlowski Jr. You appear to be more in the soft step category, if anything. Again, nothing wrong with your swing, but you don't need a hardstepped X7, as should be obvious.

 

If you're referring to my swing when I was 15 years old, no I probably would not need an X7 hardstepped. Now? Might be an interesting option and something I am curious to know if anyone has tried.

 

I did see it was old and that you were young so I'm sure you've improved. That said, unless you picked up a minimum of about 20 mph it's a non issue. It's not meant to be a swipe at you. It's just encouragement to do a little reality check. You clearly have a nice move but also clearly don't need hard stepped x7s. I say that quite confidently without even seeing a recent swing video. Post something showing me you swing 135 and I'll retract.

 

I totally agree with your point and I'm not offended at all, that being said I was mostly just curious if anyone had any input on the matter or knew how it would affect the shafts. Not saying it's what I need or what I'm going to play, but I think it could work fine and imagined somebody on here must have tried it.

 

Does 130 practice speed count? 135 was easier when he wasn't holding my legs.

 

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Ha! Sweet. Maybe you need them after all. In all seriousness, great move and beautiful tempo for that much speed. But also in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt you need to hard step x7. I would have to imagine it would border on unplayable. Especially with your smooth tempo.

[PCH]

Ha! Sweet. Maybe you need them after all. In all seriousness, great move and beautiful tempo for that much speed. But also in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt you need to hard step x7. I would have to imagine it would border on unplayable. Especially with your smooth tempo.

 

Thanks man I appreciate the input, you're probably right. My only thought was that jumping one full flex from X100 HS would logically be X7 HS so I was wondering if that's even a feasible option anyone's played. I totally get it's a ridiculous question and deserve some of these responses haha.

[NRJyzr]

Ha! Sweet. Maybe you need them after all. In all seriousness, great move and beautiful tempo for that much speed. But also in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt you need to hard step x7. I would have to imagine it would border on unplayable. Especially with your smooth tempo.

 

Thanks man I appreciate the input, you're probably right. My only thought was that jumping one full flex from X100 HS would logically be X7 HS so I was wondering if that's even a feasible option anyone's played. I totally get it's a ridiculous question and deserve some of these responses haha.

 

This requires accepting the theory that True Temper DG sub-flexes result in a slight softer shaft... Hard stepped X100 is likely fairly close to X300. X300 is the real midpoint of DGX.

 

Put all that together and you get a flex stiffer than X100 hardstepped would be X7 straight in. :)

[joshfisher]

What would x7's softstepped 2x play to? Equivalent to x100 straight in?

[PCH]

Ha! Sweet. Maybe you need them after all. In all seriousness, great move and beautiful tempo for that much speed. But also in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt you need to hard step x7. I would have to imagine it would border on unplayable. Especially with your smooth tempo.

 

Thanks man I appreciate the input, you're probably right. My only thought was that jumping one full flex from X100 HS would logically be X7 HS so I was wondering if that's even a feasible option anyone's played. I totally get it's a ridiculous question and deserve some of these responses haha.

 

This requires accepting the theory that True Temper DG sub-flexes result in a slight softer shaft... Hard stepped X100 is likely fairly close to X300. X300 is the real midpoint of DGX.

 

Put all that together and you get a flex stiffer than X100 hardstepped would be X7 straight in. :)

 

Interesting, thanks for the explanation!

[TollBros]

Ha! Sweet. Maybe you need them after all. In all seriousness, great move and beautiful tempo for that much speed. But also in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt you need to hard step x7. I would have to imagine it would border on unplayable. Especially with your smooth tempo.

 

Thanks man I appreciate the input, you're probably right. My only thought was that jumping one full flex from X100 HS would logically be X7 HS so I was wondering if that's even a feasible option anyone's played. I totally get it's a ridiculous question and deserve some of these responses haha.

 

You have a bit more speed than I do. I'm at 124-127 with the driver. I actually tried a set of X7 hard stepped. Totally unnecessary in my opinion. They just felt stiff and harsh with no gain in any manner over the standard install. I currently play C-TAPER 130x and find the two shafts pretty comparable in overall distance, c-taper actually being a bit lower spin, with the DG Tour hitting a bit lower in terms of trajectory. Hard stepping them does nothing but make them feel worse.