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RBZ tour was not a bad driver at all.

SLDR will be lower spin. I'd recommend the 460 head in 10.5 or 12 degrees. If you struggle or hate hitting it left I'd also recommend opening the club face as far as possible - this will deloft the club which is why many go for the 12 head. it takes it back to around a 10.5 after opening the face angle.

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[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447882527' post='12616506']
Just curious, thinking of picking a sldr .I have a original rbz tour 9* that a recently shafted and started hitting. Sort like the head compared to my Ping.
What sldr head is best? What loft would be similar? More or less forgiving?longer?
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Night and Day my friend,

Playing partner plays with the RBZ Tour 9*,(He hits it like a beast) the trajectory is a bullet.

I played with the old RBZ when it came out (screwed up my golf but that was my fault, I kept adjusting day to day based how I was swinging)



Anyways, RBZ to me is a full size full faced Forgiving Driver, Many available shaft options fit into this driver, getting the right loft is key in my opinion. Pretty deep face like many TM drivers and has the pep from the channel. Distance is pretty consistent to any driver from the 2008 and up, not really going to see substantial gains, it does spin more, but again the loft and the shaft pairing is going to be key.


SLDR is a huge hit or miss..... I personally am not a fan, but there are some fans of the SLDR driver out there. You can gett better input from them... My some what bias opinion is,

The SLDR is personally the most demanding driver I have ever hit, in relation its like trying to hit a Baby Blade compared to an SGI..... The need and demand for the driver is high due to CG setup the lower spin setup and trying to match a shaft to it..... The stock shaft was great if that is the shaft that works for you, but if you have a preferred shaft it may not always jive well with the head.


The SLDR while low spinning and low launching means that the off center hits are much more punishing and the loss of distance is greater amplified.

While I preferred the ball flight, and the lower spin, I noticed that if I was off centered I would lose between 20-50 yards.... pretty significant for a slight miss hit.

Secondly a buddy that also switched from the SLDR, he was naturally a hooker of the ball and hit a low ball in general, his miss would be even greater as he would not get any carry at all. Under normal weather conditions, I would rather miss it high and get carry, than miss it low and it gets stopped in the rough.


So personally.....the RBZ is a great club and switching over would be significantly different. Personally trial an error is the only way I can give you any honest opinions as it works for some but hasnt worked for many from my understanding!


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[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447882527' post='12616506']
Just curious, thinking of picking a sldr .I have a original rbz tour 9* that a recently shafted and started hitting. Sort like the head compared to my Ping.
What sldr head is best? What loft would be similar? More or less forgiving?longer?
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I played an RBZ Tour 9 and replaced it with an SLDR 430 10.5. When I got fit for the SLDR, I ended up with slightly higher launch and a couple hundred less RPM. The RBZ was already a pretty good fit (~13.5, 2400), but the SLDR optimized a few things (~15, 2200) and I ended up with better overall performance.

Worth noting is that the SLDR was a difficult club to self fit. I tried a few different heads and shafts before finally getting a great combo with a fitting.

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Wow! Nice review.
I am a tinkerer! lol
rbz head has been sitting in my basement for couple of years. Threw a adilla phantom stiff it it just too try, finds fairways! I have a g25,g30ls that i play. Rbz feels better! Thought the sldr head looks similiar with better technology, maybe gain some yards.

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[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447886612' post='12616738']
Wow! Nice review.
I am a tinkerer! lol
rbz head has been sitting in my basement for couple of years. Threw a adilla phantom stiff it it just too try, finds fairways! I have a g25,g30ls that i play. Rbz feels better! Thought the sldr head looks similiar with better technology, maybe gain some yards.
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The potential yardage gained is in the effective ball flight..... If you are loosing distance due to ballooning or to much spin, there is a possibility, but honestly.... the gain would be no more than 10 yards in my opinion...


4000rpm to 2000rpms, 17* launch to 13*.... that just optimizing, but you are pulling hairs.....honestly....have you notice how much more excitement the Aeroburner got than the SLDR, R15 got when it came out in comparison to distance and forgiveness....


Like I said some people will love it cause it works but I noticed many struggled with it!

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I've been gaming an RBZ tour 9 lofted down since it came out. I just won a 14* SLDR on eBay. I want to loft it down all the way to open the face as much as possible while still "loft(ing) up." I also have 2 heavy shaft options that are low launch so I'm hoping that combo with the insanely high loft produces some good results.

Essentially we are trying the same experiment, let me know how things work and what combo you settle on.

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RBZ Tour is actually a beast and dare I say underrated... I have the 9* tour with a Fubuki something or other (I can't remember now) 60X which was an absolute cannon, the only reason it got replaced by the optiforce is because the optiforce was cheap and had a shorter shaft which I wanted to try out and it's been working well. I hit some monster drives with my RBZ Tour and it is a fairly forgiving driver honestly I have no complaints with it, in fact I'm going to take it to get the shaft cut down an inch and put it up against the optiforce.

As someone mentioned earlier the SLDR is hit or miss, I know people who love it and absolutely crush it and others who want to love it but can't get the damn thing airborne or keep it on the planet no matter what they try. I'd stick with the RBZ.

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[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447929583' post='12618670']
Great answers guys! How does the rbz460 head compare to the smaller rbz head?
May pick up the 460/head for a little more forgiveness.I hit my tour rbz highnon the face alot! Could be a swing flaw ! But maybe the 460/head will help a little. The insanity that is golf!! Lol
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My good golfing buddy has the regular RBZ and he hates it, I've hit it a couple times to see if he was just being silly but I think his hatred is justified, it's a loud high spin left hitting machine... The shaft may be the issue here but even messing around with the different loft settings I still think that driver is useless, if someone offered me the standard RBZ od a SLDR I'd take the SLDR and I struggled with the SLDR.

If your miss is high on the driver face then stick with the deeper faced tour driver, the standard RBZ has a very shallow face more for heel/toe misses.

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I have never hit a driver with better dispersion as my SLDR 460 9.5* clocked -2. I find it very forgiving actually.

I played with it now 4 rounds, and in those 4 rounds I have only missed 6 fairways with it. Most of those have been just off the short grass.

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Still have the SLDR in my bag and will be in there next year, not really sure what I can add but I don't find it as punishing as most claim it is. It does require the right shaft, I had a heavier NV in it for a while but during a fitting ended up getting Fujikura Pro series shaft in it and that helped add a few more yards and tightened up the misses. The SLDR is pretty cheap to pick up now, like others stated however it's a hard club to self fit, I thought I had done a pretty good job and then going in for a fitting with it there still was some extra to be had and make it better.

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I had the original RBZ non tour (9*) and the face was not deep enough for me and it spun a little too much. Traded it in for the tour 10.5* head which spun quite a bit less and was deeper. The SLDR did not work at all for me--hit nothing but knuckle balls with it. The low spin revolution is not for everyone.

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I'm pretty sure the OG Rbz tour and Rbz drivers are both 460 heads. I have the tour and my bro in law has the regular. The footprint on the tour is smaller but the face is deeper.

I had considered moving to the SLDR and I borrowed my friends sldr 430 for a round. I play my tour 9* like most people here seem to, adjusted down to lowest/most open setting and I love the flight distance forgiveness. Sldr was definitely long, but the trajectory was LOW. He had a 9*? Head, or whatever was their lowest loft. Loft up seems like more than just a suggestion. Definitely a beast, but I stuck with Rbz tour.

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I switch back and forth between my AB TP and the SLDR 460 12*. It took about 4 or 5 tries with the SLDR to make it work. I went with a few different lofts and finally tried the 12* head straight in with a Fuji Pro 63x at 44.75." 2 clicks to fade and its perfect. For me, its pretty forgiving and keeps me in play from left to right, but when I miss it a bit i lose yardage. My perfectly struck balls are addicting to look at and its hard for me to part ways with it.

Its a great, tricky, weird, long, wonderful driver.

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[quote name='mgilly200' timestamp='1447959005' post='12620386']
I switch back and forth between my AB TP and the SLDR 460 12*. It took about 4 or 5 tries with the SLDR to make it work. I went with a few different lofts and finally tried the 12* head straight in with a Fuji Pro 63x at 44.75." 2 clicks to fade and its perfect. For me, its pretty forgiving and keeps me in play from left to right, but when I miss it a bit i lose yardage. My perfectly struck balls are addicting to look at and its hard for me to part ways with it.

Its a great, tricky, weird, long, wonderful driver.
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Are you a high or low ball hitter?

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[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447966301' post='12620902']
[quote name='mgilly200' timestamp='1447959005' post='12620386']
I switch back and forth between my AB TP and the SLDR 460 12*. It took about 4 or 5 tries with the SLDR to make it work. I went with a few different lofts and finally tried the 12* head straight in with a Fuji Pro 63x at 44.75." 2 clicks to fade and its perfect. For me, its pretty forgiving and keeps me in play from left to right, but when I miss it a bit i lose yardage. My perfectly struck balls are addicting to look at and its hard for me to part ways with it.

Its a great, tricky, weird, long, wonderful driver.
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Are you a high or low ball hitter?
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With the driver, typically a mid ball flight..to low. SLDR fixes that for sure as I tend to smother it a bit. I've been working on getting more "up" on the driver now so even a lower lofted driver has a higher flight, but the SLDR I don't have to think about hitting high, it just launches right and stays flat.

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IMO.. The SLDR is very similar to the Callaway FT Tour.. Very low spin.. A bomber when you hit it in the middle but will pinish you on mis hita

RBZ is a better perform heel to toe

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[quote name='mgilly200' timestamp='1447967068' post='12620952']
[quote name='golfhoopie' timestamp='1447966301' post='12620902']
[quote name='mgilly200' timestamp='1447959005' post='12620386']
I switch back and forth between my AB TP and the SLDR 460 12*. It took about 4 or 5 tries with the SLDR to make it work. I went with a few different lofts and finally tried the 12* head straight in with a Fuji Pro 63x at 44.75." 2 clicks to fade and its perfect. For me, its pretty forgiving and keeps me in play from left to right, but when I miss it a bit i lose yardage. My perfectly struck balls are addicting to look at and its hard for me to part ways with it.

Its a great, tricky, weird, long, wonderful driver.
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Are you a high or low ball hitter?
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With the driver, typically a mid ball flight..to low. SLDR fixes that for sure as I tend to smother it a bit. I've been working on getting more "up" on the driver now so even a lower lofted driver has a higher flight, but the SLDR I don't have to think about hitting high, it just launches right and stays flat.
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I'll have to get a 12* sldr a try.
Pretty similiar launch and swing. I tend to hit down also

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  • 6 years later...

Hello. SLDR is NOT a driver for anyone. In the right hands, it drives the ball as a missile way longer than RBZ...but any slight mistake and it punishes you severely. My whole club set is SLDR and the best thing to be when I play...be ready to execute..otherwise...you are a goner. In conclusion, if you do not have a cultivated, stable swing DO NOT venture in the SLDR...if you do...you will very often our drive the people you golf with....reason? because the other drivers always require a swing high club head speed to compensate for forgiveness...while if you have a high club head speed and hit it right on center...it will take someone with very high club head speed to our drive you. Personally, it forces me to cultivate my swing...

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