Holes in one or Hole in ones?

[Shipwreck]

It's an object. A thing. A "hole-in-one".

 

When I went to school, to make an object plural, the s went on the end. Not randomly in the middle.

 

I get why it's holes in one, but you didn't play six holes in one stroke. You played six holes in one stroke each. Or, you got six hole-in-ones. Holes in one.

 

Holes in ones.

 

Someone else said it best, six aces...

 

A hole in one is not a noun, and calling it one doesn't make it so. Yes we refer to it as a "thing" more so as an occurrence, but it does not fit the 'add an S to the end to make it plural' rules because it already contains a noun (hole).

 

It most definitely is a noun.

 

http://www.thefreedi...com/hole in one

 

Okay....I'll concede that, and right below that it states PLURAL: HOLES IN ONE, see the reasoning I gave above. Ones is not a correct usage of the word, because one refers to one stroke, so it's a numerical value. It's not like saying "He parred 3 holes." "Which ones?" That ones is a specific use, referring to the hole numbers that he parred.

[SadTrombone]

It's an object. A thing. A "hole-in-one".

 

When I went to school, to make an object plural, the s went on the end. Not randomly in the middle.

 

I get why it's holes in one, but you didn't play six holes in one stroke. You played six holes in one stroke each. Or, you got six hole-in-ones. Holes in one.

 

Holes in ones.

 

Someone else said it best, six aces...

 

A hole in one is not a noun, and calling it one doesn't make it so. Yes we refer to it as a "thing" more so as an occurrence, but it does not fit the 'add an S to the end to make it plural' rules because it already contains a noun (hole).

 

It most definitely is a noun.

 

http://www.thefreedi...com/hole in one

 

Okay....I'll concede that, and right below that it states PLURAL: HOLES IN ONE, see the reasoning I gave above. Ones is not a correct usage of the word, because one refers to one stroke, so it's a numerical value. It's not like saying "He parred 3 holes." "Which ones?" That ones is a specific use, referring to the hole numbers that he parred.

 

I never said it wasn't the accepted/correct usage (holes in one). Just that you didn't play x holes in one stroke. You played them in one stroke each.

 

You don't kill two birds with one stone (each). You kill two birds with one stone (total).

 

I'm starting to like McAces.

[Shipwreck]

It's an object. A thing. A "hole-in-one".

 

When I went to school, to make an object plural, the s went on the end. Not randomly in the middle.

 

I get why it's holes in one, but you didn't play six holes in one stroke. You played six holes in one stroke each. Or, you got six hole-in-ones. Holes in one.

 

Holes in ones.

 

Someone else said it best, six aces...

 

A hole in one is not a noun, and calling it one doesn't make it so. Yes we refer to it as a "thing" more so as an occurrence, but it does not fit the 'add an S to the end to make it plural' rules because it already contains a noun (hole).

 

It most definitely is a noun.

 

http://www.thefreedi...com/hole in one

 

Okay....I'll concede that, and right below that it states PLURAL: HOLES IN ONE, see the reasoning I gave above. Ones is not a correct usage of the word, because one refers to one stroke, so it's a numerical value. It's not like saying "He parred 3 holes." "Which ones?" That ones is a specific use, referring to the hole numbers that he parred.

 

I never said it wasn't the accepted/correct usage (holes in one). Just that you didn't play x holes in one stroke. You played them in one stroke each.

 

You don't kill two birds with one stone (each). You kill two birds with one stone (total).

 

I'm starting to like McAces.

 

Two birds with one stone is one single motion, just as a 'hole in one' is one shot on one hole. I'm not sure that the two birds/one stone can really correlate to golf though, because you literally cannot make 2 holes in one with a single shot, where as you can kill 2 birds with one stone (yes I know the actual meaning of it, but work with me here). I guess it boils down to the sentence structure. How many of what did you get in X amount of strokes. If you got 2 holes in one stroke each, wouldn't you essentially say you got 2 holes in two total?

[wayupnorth]

luckily i have two hole in one's in my lifetime thus far...

 

unluckily, i have several holes in one of my cashmere cardigans...

 

confusing...

 

perhaps that's why i call them aces...

[mtg6193]

I kind of feel like it would make sense for it to be hyphenated: hole-in-one.

 

I can't imagine learning English as a second language...

[Shipwreck]

 

I can't imagine learning English as a second language...

 

They're over there with their two friends, too. Why do we have one foot or two feet, but wear one boot or two boots? Why is cargo transported by ship but shipments are usually transported by car?

[llewol007]

Whos care or is that Who cares?

[Mdmspop]

luckily i have two hole in one's in my lifetime thus far...

 

unluckily, i have several holes in one of my cashmere cardigans...

 

confusing...

 

perhaps that's why i call them aces...

 

Aaaahhh, the dreaded apostrophe S used in a plural rather than a possessive has reared its ugly head! Holes in one. Mothers in law. Attorneys General. All sound weird but are correct. It is not negotiable!!

[Halebopp]

No one has brought up the definition of Ball Holed, which refers to Holed.

 

A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.

 

I have trouble accepting a ball could be holed in two different holes at the same time in this one universe we all live in. Of course the ball could be in many places in the multiverse but that complicates things a bit too much. Thus holes in one makes no sense to me no matter how grammatically correct it is. At least the guys at the R&A and USGA have backbones unlike the guys at Merriam Webster who changed the definition of the word literally due to people who didn't know its definition in the first place. [/rant]

 

I guess if I'm ever fortunate enough to make a second hole in one, I'll say "I've made a hole in one twice". or something similar working around the issue.

[SplashShot]

If you have "5 holes in one" it was one shot for each hole.

 

If you have "18 holes in 72" was it 72 shots for each hole?

[Loki]

I guess if I'm ever fortunate enough to make a second hole in one, I'll say "I've made a hole in one twice". or something similar working around the issue.

 

Or you could just say "I have two holes in one." HAH!!

 

It really isn't an issue. It's proper English.

[SadTrombone]

And now ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty

[Michael C.]

I've twice had an eagle on a par 3.

[Shipwreck]

Whos care or is that Who cares?

 

That depends. Are we talking about the Dr. Seuss characters from Who-ville?

[tsmithers]

haha. I didn't think this would become such a discussion when I started the thread. I was just hoping for a consensus. Interesting to read the different takes on it. Thanks for all the repsonses.

[pheenomz4774]

 

I can't imagine learning English as a second language...

 

They're over there with their two friends, too. Why do we have one foot or two feet, but wear one boot or two boots? Why is cargo transported by ship but shipments are usually transported by car?

 

Why do we drive on a parkway but then park in our driveway? English! Catch you some!

[SadTrombone]

I've twice had an eagle on a par 3.

So... Did you ace the same hole twice, or did you have one ace on each of two separate holes?

 

This thread is giving me flashbacks to studying for the SAT. Oh, wait...I skipped the SAT so I could play a golf tournament. :dntknw:

[rsj1360]

So on the opening Par 5 of the season I got a double bogey. So can I say I got a hole in seven ones?

[dadup]

holes in one is my vote.

hole in ones makes zero sense to me

 

+1

[Bush Pilot]

It's an object. A thing. A "hole-in-one".

 

That's how it is in my mind, however grammatically incorrect it might be.

 

I hope that some day I actually have to worry about how to say this. So far I'm not even to the single hole-in-one stage. :(

[Raven Logics]

If I were talking about a stat, such as how many holes you got in one shot, or how many holes in par, then the sentence make up for "hole in one" is a noun-preposition-adjective (technically we are dropping a noun from the end, hole in one SHOT, otherwise it would be a meaningless sentence). The adjective is not a variable and therefore cannot be pluralized. "Hole in one shots" or "hole in pars" does not work, so you would say "holes in one shot" or "holes in par". You wouldn't say "hole in one shots".

 

In golf a "hole in one" can be used as an expression, a singular noun alluding to finishing a single hole in one shot during a round of golf. It is more often used to describe an achievement than a stat. If you ask how many times someone has managed the expression, then you pluralize the whole expression and it becomes "hole in one"s. The confusion arises because the expression can be used as a shortened standalone sentence. If you look at any other expression used as singular noun then you will see the last word is always pluralized. Duck hook, duck hooks. Baby fade, baby fades.

 

So Michael Breed is right if he is talking about stats, but personally I think most people use the phrase to talk about achieving the Holy Grail of golf. The plural of which is definitely Holy Grails, or hole in ones.

[Loki]

This is turning out to be the most stupid thread on WRX and needs to be locked.

[SadTrombone]

This is turning out to be the most stupid thread on WRX and needs to be locked.

 

You don't say...

[Michael C.]

I've twice had an eagle on a par 3.

So... Did you ace the same hole twice, or did you have one ace on each of two separate holes?

 

This thread is giving me flashbacks to studying for the SAT. Oh, wait...I skipped the SAT so I could play a golf tournament. :dntknw:

 

Actually...lmao...it was the same hole twice. Two different rounds.

[SadTrombone]

I've twice had an eagle on a par 3.

So... Did you ace the same hole twice, or did you have one ace on each of two separate holes?

 

This thread is giving me flashbacks to studying for the SAT. Oh, wait...I skipped the SAT so I could play a golf tournament. :dntknw:

 

Actually...lmao...it was the same hole twice. Two different rounds.

 

I'm going to need you to give me five numbers and a powerball...

[Moonlightgrm]

I was at a clinic with Michael Breed last month. No doubt a knowledgeable guy but sarcastic and condescending as hell. He got into a rant about further and farther and he was absolutely correct on the difference in their meaning. However, he kept saying "you know" and "I mean" during his rant. He finished with, "Does everyone understand the difference between further and farther? ... and stop messing with my language". Back at you, Mike!

 

How many HOLES in ONE have you made during your golfing career? Holes in one sounds correct to me.

[Kaysquare]

Holes in one, of course.

[Conrad1953]

Is the weather bad somewhere?

[Sawgrass]

The correct (American English) plural is "holes in one."

 

This is the reason dictionaries were invented, and with the advent of the internet I am surprised fewer people use them today than in pre-internet days...

 

http://www.oxforddic...ish/hole-in-one

 

I submit that the definition of a "hole-in-one" described in this link is incorrect. Is the pluralization nonetheless correct? Perhaps, but the general authority becomes questionable . . .

 

(The definition used there awards hole-in-one status even to a second ball played from a tee. I don't accept that a score of 3 on a par three after hitting your first ball OB qualifies as a hole-in-one -- though I'm absolutely sure this is another meaningless argument. Hmm . . . Out of Bounds? Out of Boundzes? Outs of Bound?)

[bandrz]

I voted for Acey McAceFace